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The Biden Administration Handed Over a Strong Economy​

1. Economic growth surpassed expectations​

The path of economic growth in 2024 again defied expectations. In both 2023 and 2024, real gross domestic product (GDP)—the typical measure for the total value of the economy, accounting for inflation—exceeded major public and private forecasts. (see Figure 1)

2. Stronger productivity growth returned despite a global slowdown​

Productivity growth—producing more with the same or fewer inputs—is key to future prosperity. Productivity helps raise incomes, improve overall economic health, and increase government revenues, providing greater capacity for governments to address pressing challenges such as climate change and an aging society.

The acceleration of labor productivity growth—the change in output per hour worked—defied expectations for 2023 and 2024. (see Figure 2) Although productivity growth typically slows over a business cycle, it averaged 2.3 percent from September 2022 to September 2024, compared with an average of 1.4 percent from December 2019 to September 2022.

3. Inflation was tamed without a recession​

Inflation has been the dominant feature of post-pandemic economies across the globe, partially stemming from pandemic-related supply-side bottlenecks. This is being brought under control, while simultaneously avoiding the sluggish growth experienced by many other advanced economies. Inflation fell from 7.2 percent in June 2022 to 2.4 percent in November 2024. (see Figure 3)*** Inflation has continued to cool in the past six months, with CAP analysis showing an annualized rate of around 2 percent.

4. Workers benefited from the strongest labor market in generations​

Several indicators point to the continuing strength of the labor market, which has delivered gains from stable employment and sustained wage growth for working families.

The unemployment rate—at 4.1 percent as of December 2024—has been at or below 4.3 percent since November 2021. Moreover, it has been at or below 4 percent for 30 of the past 38 months. This long a period of low unemployment has not been seen since the late 1960s. In 2024, the prime-age employment-to-population (EPOP) ratio—a key measure of employment that accounts for demographic change—pushed beyond pre-pandemic levels, reaching highs not seen since 2001.****

5. Households, especially those limited by prior barriers, saw substantial wealth gains​

The strong economy has generated substantial wealth gains across a wide spectrum of households. On average, net household wealth as a percentage of after-tax income reached a peak in March 2022 and has remained far above the long-term average. (see Figure 5)

Conclusion​

Key economic indicators highlight continually strong economic performance in recent years, and 2024 is no exception. Looking ahead, analyses from Goldman Sachs and Moody’s in 2024 predicted that retaining current policy settings would continue favorable macroeconomic performance in future years. However, increased tariffs—as proposed by the new administration—are expected to worsen economic performance, particularly over the next two years, with increased inflation and lower GDP growth.***** Although current data highlight an economy that is at its strongest in decades, future policies may put this positive trajectory at risk.


 
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The Biden Administration Handed Over a Strong Economy​

1. Economic growth surpassed expectations​

The path of economic growth in 2024 again defied expectations. In both 2023 and 2024, real gross domestic product (GDP)—the typical measure for the total value of the economy, accounting for inflation—exceeded major public and private forecasts. (see Figure 1)

2. Stronger productivity growth returned despite a global slowdown​

Productivity growth—producing more with the same or fewer inputs—is key to future prosperity. Productivity helps raise incomes, improve overall economic health, and increase government revenues, providing greater capacity for governments to address pressing challenges such as climate change and an aging society.

The acceleration of labor productivity growth—the change in output per hour worked—defied expectations for 2023 and 2024. (see Figure 2) Although productivity growth typically slows over a business cycle, it averaged 2.3 percent from September 2022 to September 2024, compared with an average of 1.4 percent from December 2019 to September 2022.

3. Inflation was tamed without a recession​

Inflation has been the dominant feature of post-pandemic economies across the globe, partially stemming from pandemic-related supply-side bottlenecks. This is being brought under control, while simultaneously avoiding the sluggish growth experienced by many other advanced economies. Inflation fell from 7.2 percent in June 2022 to 2.4 percent in November 2024. (see Figure 3)*** Inflation has continued to cool in the past six months, with CAP analysis showing an annualized rate of around 2 percent.

4. Workers benefited from the strongest labor market in generations​

Several indicators point to the continuing strength of the labor market, which has delivered gains from stable employment and sustained wage growth for working families.

The unemployment rate—at 4.1 percent as of December 2024—has been at or below 4.3 percent since November 2021. Moreover, it has been at or below 4 percent for 30 of the past 38 months. This long a period of low unemployment has not been seen since the late 1960s. In 2024, the prime-age employment-to-population (EPOP) ratio—a key measure of employment that accounts for demographic change—pushed beyond pre-pandemic levels, reaching highs not seen since 2001.****

5. Households, especially those limited by prior barriers, saw substantial wealth gains​

The strong economy has generated substantial wealth gains across a wide spectrum of households. On average, net household wealth as a percentage of after-tax income reached a peak in March 2022 and has remained far above the long-term average. (see Figure 5)

Conclusion​

Key economic indicators highlight continually strong economic performance in recent years, and 2024 is no exception. Looking ahead, analyses from Goldman Sachs and Moody’s in 2024 predicted that retaining current policy settings would continue favorable macroeconomic performance in future years. However, increased tariffs—as proposed by the new administration—are expected to worsen economic performance, particularly over the next two years, with increased inflation and lower GDP growth.***** Although current data highlight an economy that is at its strongest in decades, future policies may put this positive trajectory at risk.


Let me help you. All paid for with borrowed money.

I could live in a mansion with the best of everything for a period of time with borrowed money. Then, it would be over.

We, as a country, are at the “over” part.

You are quite the simpleton, it seems.
 

The Biden Administration Handed Over a Strong Economy​

1. Economic growth surpassed expectations​

The path of economic growth in 2024 again defied expectations. In both 2023 and 2024, real gross domestic product (GDP)—the typical measure for the total value of the economy, accounting for inflation—exceeded major public and private forecasts. (see Figure 1)

2. Stronger productivity growth returned despite a global slowdown​

Productivity growth—producing more with the same or fewer inputs—is key to future prosperity. Productivity helps raise incomes, improve overall economic health, and increase government revenues, providing greater capacity for governments to address pressing challenges such as climate change and an aging society.

The acceleration of labor productivity growth—the change in output per hour worked—defied expectations for 2023 and 2024. (see Figure 2) Although productivity growth typically slows over a business cycle, it averaged 2.3 percent from September 2022 to September 2024, compared with an average of 1.4 percent from December 2019 to September 2022.

3. Inflation was tamed without a recession​

Inflation has been the dominant feature of post-pandemic economies across the globe, partially stemming from pandemic-related supply-side bottlenecks. This is being brought under control, while simultaneously avoiding the sluggish growth experienced by many other advanced economies. Inflation fell from 7.2 percent in June 2022 to 2.4 percent in November 2024. (see Figure 3)*** Inflation has continued to cool in the past six months, with CAP analysis showing an annualized rate of around 2 percent.

4. Workers benefited from the strongest labor market in generations​

Several indicators point to the continuing strength of the labor market, which has delivered gains from stable employment and sustained wage growth for working families.

The unemployment rate—at 4.1 percent as of December 2024—has been at or below 4.3 percent since November 2021. Moreover, it has been at or below 4 percent for 30 of the past 38 months. This long a period of low unemployment has not been seen since the late 1960s. In 2024, the prime-age employment-to-population (EPOP) ratio—a key measure of employment that accounts for demographic change—pushed beyond pre-pandemic levels, reaching highs not seen since 2001.****

5. Households, especially those limited by prior barriers, saw substantial wealth gains​

The strong economy has generated substantial wealth gains across a wide spectrum of households. On average, net household wealth as a percentage of after-tax income reached a peak in March 2022 and has remained far above the long-term average. (see Figure 5)

Conclusion​

Key economic indicators highlight continually strong economic performance in recent years, and 2024 is no exception. Looking ahead, analyses from Goldman Sachs and Moody’s in 2024 predicted that retaining current policy settings would continue favorable macroeconomic performance in future years. However, increased tariffs—as proposed by the new administration—are expected to worsen economic performance, particularly over the next two years, with increased inflation and lower GDP growth.***** Although current data highlight an economy that is at its strongest in decades, future policies may put this positive trajectory at risk.


Dude what a left wing rag.

And the American people don't BELIEVE any of this.

That's why Kamala LOST.
 
'For a former great power still trying to flex its military muscles around the world, the United Kingdom is woefully unprepared, with an Army that has ‘shrunk to its smallest size since the Napoleonic Wars’.


With only around 73,000 troops and – believe it or not – only 40 combat-ready battle tanks, it turns out that the shortcomings are also plaguing the Royal Air Force (RAF), that is facing a pilot shortage after a diversity hiring scheme unsurprisingly backfired.'

 


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Dude what a left wing rag.

And the American people don't BELIEVE any of this.

That's why Kamala LOST.

If you don't like the message, why immediately blame the source? I haven't verified the source but if the facts are accurate, what kind of argument are you making?

Kamala lost because people think inflation only happened in the US, she wasn't selected through traditional means and she spent too much time catering to a portion of her base that most moderates couldn't care less about.

Remember when we were fed the line "yeah, all of our policies suck, but how's your 401k doing?", not hearing much of that at all.

As an independent with varying political opinions, this administration is off to one of the worst starts possible from nearly every aspect.
 
If you don't like the message, why immediately blame the source? I haven't verified the source but if the facts are accurate, what kind of argument are you making?

Kamala lost because people think inflation only happened in the US, she wasn't selected through traditional means and she spent too much time catering to a portion of her base that most moderates couldn't care less about.

Remember when we were fed the line "yeah, all of our policies suck, but how's your 401k doing?", not hearing much of that at all.

As an independent with varying political opinions, this administration is off to one of the worst starts possible from nearly every aspect.
No, Kamala lost because the democrats have zero platform other than identity insanity.

And kamala was an insanely bad candidate, along with the press lied and gaslit the public for 4 years that Biden was doing cartwheels behind closed doors and if his debate performance wasn't as bad, they wouldve continued the gaslight.

The source is misleading tho. Adding govt jobs after just allowing ppl to return to work after covid wasn't economy growth. Lying about the border for 4 years until they couldn't anymore, and unhinged spending, without budgeting to start the term were major issues with inflation.

Also did you forget you weren't in your sock account here?
 
No, Kamala lost because the democrats have zero platform other than identity insanity.

And kamala was an insanely bad candidate, along with the press lied and gaslit the public for 4 years that Biden was doing cartwheels behind closed doors and if his debate performance wasn't as bad, they wouldve continued the gaslight.

The source is misleading tho. Adding govt jobs after just allowing ppl to return to work after covid wasn't economy growth. Lying about the border for 4 years until they couldn't anymore, and unhinged spending, without budgeting to start the term were major issues with inflation.

Also did you forget you weren't in your sock account here?
LOL Irish Beck's sock account outed!

Funny how I had both of them blocked.

And let me add to your list:

Chopping parts off kids

Teaching sexual perversion to kids
 
Now THAT'S funny. She would have raised taxes.

Final question, Sam.

If Kamala WOULD HAVE THIS ECONOMY ROLLING FINE, why didn't she do it for the last 4 years?


She did.
Facts ain't your friend buddy.

Stocks kicked ass....

Low unemployment.....

Job growth.....

High GDP.....

MAGA.Total. Delusional. Clown. Show.
 
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No, Kamala lost because the democrats have zero platform other than identity insanity.

And kamala was an insanely bad candidate, along with the press lied and gaslit the public for 4 years that Biden was doing cartwheels behind closed doors and if his debate performance wasn't as bad, they wouldve continued the gaslight.

The source is misleading tho. Adding govt jobs after just allowing ppl to return to work after covid wasn't economy growth. Lying about the border for 4 years until they couldn't anymore, and unhinged spending, without budgeting to start the term were major issues with inflation.

Also did you forget you weren't in your sock account here?

It's weird you would say that when the Republican platform is grift off of Trump. His policies are effectively to dismantle the federal government (which is working wonders at the moment), alienate the US from international affairs and cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans, while also running astronomical levels of spending. There's a reason he added the most debt of any president even excluding COVID spending.

Meanwhile, we've started trade wars with our longest strategic allies (which he can't decide if we actually want to continue with as he keeps changing his mind), tanked the stock market domestically (check out Tesla stock while you're at it) and basically turned into a one legged stool of government in two months. All the while, the crown jewel of the administration (DOGE) is having to retract nearly everything it posts because they keep screwing up their numbers/facts on top of the fact that it seems much of the changes they made are going to run into legal issues as they really shouldn't have the kind of power they are exerting. Don't be surprised if congress starts to ask more questions about what they are wholesale cutting moving forward.

FYI, the border still isn't closed. No policy changes that would continue to wind down inflation (firing bird flu specialists amid a national crisis was brilliant), nothing about the housing cost crisis and healthcare is but a blip on the radar at this point. But we now have the Gulf of America, so that's good.

I've posted on this board since 2009 with this moniker only, find new tactics.
 
LOL Irish Beck's sock account outed!

Funny how I had both of them blocked.

And let me add to your list:

Chopping parts off kids

Teaching sexual perversion to kids

I'm against surgery for minors, I'm against teaching sexual perversion (within reason) to minors (I'd love an example of this in a real world clasroom) and I've never posted under another IP. You guys just love posting in this little echo chamber so much you have to shell up when someone disagrees.

Hell, I've probably posted in this thread less than twenty times in the 16 years I've been on this board. It's laughable.

While we're at it, I own firearms, I support cutting spending (primarily our albatross of defense spending but other programs too) and I think that Free Speech is our most important right.

But, please, keep assuming things.
 
From Solomon to Trump. Two very smart and rich men. Tariffs aren't bad...in fact they're Biblical.

2 Chronicles 1 NKJ

17 They also acquired and imported from Egypt a chariot for six hundred shekels of silver, and a horse for one hundred and fifty; thus, [d]through their agents, they exported them to all the kings of the Hittites and the kings of Syria.

From the commentary of the Nelson NKJ Study Bible.....

.....this verse suggests that a chariot cost as much as four horses. they exported them: Solomon had a thriving business in horses and chariots. Because Israel was on the route from Asia and Africa, such goods would go through Israel and become subject to Solomon's heavy import and export taxes.


Good enough for Solomon.....good enough for me.

Exactly.

When the govt takes a profit on imports, it's a tariff. When a govt takes a profit on exports, it's a tax.


Like I said. It's war. It's not corporate espionage because there are no competitors there. Time to sanction them.
 
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Russians are murdering Ukrainians for being Christian? Crucifying them and then blowing their heads off while praising Allah?

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? Of being in the wrong? Of not being able to make accurate comparisons?

It’s exhausting for us, so it must be doubly so for you.
 
Let me help you. All paid for with borrowed money.

I could live in a mansion with the best of everything for a period of time with borrowed money. Then, it would be over.

We, as a country, are at the “over” part.

You are quite the simpleton, it seems.
weird how analysts didn't think that was an issue until trump came into office....

Make chaos of trade policies
Make chaos of alliances
Devalue americans presence globally.

And hmmm, people take money from US markets and are moving it elsewhere.
But you're right Trump isn't responsible for that.
Its the globalist elite conspiracy to dismantle the US by... oh wait, all the things trump is doing....
 
I'm against surgery for minors, I'm against teaching sexual perversion (within reason) to minors (I'd love an example of this in a real world clasroom) and I've never posted under another IP. You guys just love posting in this little echo chamber so much you have to shell up when someone disagrees.

Hell, I've probably posted in this thread less than twenty times in the 16 years I've been on this board. It's laughable.

While we're at it, I own firearms, I support cutting spending (primarily our albatross of defense spending but other programs too) and I think that Free Speech is our most important right.

But, please, keep assuming things.
Everyone not in their sphere is a monolith of values they determine are evil.
no nuance, no thought, just hate.

One of the jackals on here will ignore any moderation in your above statements and then begin to attack on some isolated POV, or attack on some PRESUMED POV that scares them on Twitter.

Oh and I was gonna say they were gonna accuse you of being a "sock" account, but they've already checked that list.
 
I'm against surgery for minors, I'm against teaching sexual perversion (within reason) to minors (I'd love an example of this in a real world clasroom) and I've never posted under another IP. You guys just love posting in this little echo chamber so much you have to shell up when someone disagrees.

Hell, I've probably posted in this thread less than twenty times in the 16 years I've been on this board. It's laughable.

While we're at it, I own firearms, I support cutting spending (primarily our albatross of defense spending but other programs too) and I think that Free Speech is our most important right.

But, please, keep assuming things.
You are also very proud of your pseudo intelligence.
 
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The Biden Administration Handed Over a Strong Economy​

1. Economic growth surpassed expectations​

The path of economic growth in 2024 again defied expectations. In both 2023 and 2024, real gross domestic product (GDP)—the typical measure for the total value of the economy, accounting for inflation—exceeded major public and private forecasts. (see Figure 1)

2. Stronger productivity growth returned despite a global slowdown​

Productivity growth—producing more with the same or fewer inputs—is key to future prosperity. Productivity helps raise incomes, improve overall economic health, and increase government revenues, providing greater capacity for governments to address pressing challenges such as climate change and an aging society.

The acceleration of labor productivity growth—the change in output per hour worked—defied expectations for 2023 and 2024. (see Figure 2) Although productivity growth typically slows over a business cycle, it averaged 2.3 percent from September 2022 to September 2024, compared with an average of 1.4 percent from December 2019 to September 2022.

3. Inflation was tamed without a recession​

Inflation has been the dominant feature of post-pandemic economies across the globe, partially stemming from pandemic-related supply-side bottlenecks. This is being brought under control, while simultaneously avoiding the sluggish growth experienced by many other advanced economies. Inflation fell from 7.2 percent in June 2022 to 2.4 percent in November 2024. (see Figure 3)*** Inflation has continued to cool in the past six months, with CAP analysis showing an annualized rate of around 2 percent.

4. Workers benefited from the strongest labor market in generations​

Several indicators point to the continuing strength of the labor market, which has delivered gains from stable employment and sustained wage growth for working families.

The unemployment rate—at 4.1 percent as of December 2024—has been at or below 4.3 percent since November 2021. Moreover, it has been at or below 4 percent for 30 of the past 38 months. This long a period of low unemployment has not been seen since the late 1960s. In 2024, the prime-age employment-to-population (EPOP) ratio—a key measure of employment that accounts for demographic change—pushed beyond pre-pandemic levels, reaching highs not seen since 2001.****

5. Households, especially those limited by prior barriers, saw substantial wealth gains​

The strong economy has generated substantial wealth gains across a wide spectrum of households. On average, net household wealth as a percentage of after-tax income reached a peak in March 2022 and has remained far above the long-term average. (see Figure 5)

Conclusion​

Key economic indicators highlight continually strong economic performance in recent years, and 2024 is no exception. Looking ahead, analyses from Goldman Sachs and Moody’s in 2024 predicted that retaining current policy settings would continue favorable macroeconomic performance in future years. However, increased tariffs—as proposed by the new administration—are expected to worsen economic performance, particularly over the next two years, with increased inflation and lower GDP growth.***** Although current data highlight an economy that is at its strongest in decades, future policies may put this positive trajectory at risk.


Yet, the voters were unhappy with the Biden/Harris team and kicked them to the curb in large part due to economic issues like inflation.
 
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