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** Wise Words Department **

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I'm fine with Americans competing with other Americans. But shifting most of your manufacturing sector abroad because China had 1.5 billion starving people is a fool's errand. And besides, what's the point of a country if you don't protect your people and companies?


Libertarians believe that heroin and fentanyl should just be legal. And if you use it and get hooked - tough shit. Well that ignores the fact that people aren't perfect and make mistakes which could lead them to getting hooked. When we had a drug war in full tilt we didn't have 100K people dying a year from overdosing. You need to ban this stuff and go hard after dealers and users.


Again, you're fine with legal immigration. But your libertarians friends say they are for open immigration - meaning the 7B people in the world could move to the US if they want. Are you for that? Probably not.


Overall, the problem with libertarian ideas - and anyone sticking to your principles in general - is that they don't allow flexibility when faced with challenges due to scale. For example, pretty much everyone in the US is okay with supporting a family of migrants. But when it becomes 20 million families of migrants that's when it becomes a problem.

Libertarianism has a lot of followers that don't think it through very far. They talk big but a lot wouldn't lift a finger to help implement anything, which is why it has so far failed as a movement.

You can't have free trade between an economic system that pays $3 per day and one that pays $7 per hour. If you can't reason that through then your ideology is a sht ideology backed by stupidity. Everything in between those extremes of pay scale also nukes the libertarian platform.

Same goes for immigration. Open borders is stupidity. If you have open borders you have no borders. Are libertarians so stupid that they believe people are altruistic these days? Have they not seen any international news the last 30 years? OR is it that libertarians HAVE seen the news and know that human rights would be destroyed very quickly with open borders and they either don't care or want them destroyed?

Libertarians are generally speaking as clueless as liberals, because they choose their ideology based on what sounds cool or is most convenient, as if these choices weren't available to the founders of this country. All of these choices were rejected for good reason, and for that I'm thankful.

A constitutional republic, with limitations placed on the govt, immutable rights granted by God rather than men, and borders and citizens to be defended and protected, rather than exploited and sold like chattel, is STILL the best solution. And, as always, it is only one or two ignorant generations from being lost and must be actively supported and preserved.
 
Nah... I'm actually starting to laugh as all the funding to poor ass red states begins to dry up.
FAFO red state teat suckers.
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I have first hand experience with competing with China in manufacturing. Forty years ago, I worked thirty people in a low skill manufacturing job. I paid what I could afford to pay and offered health insurance and paid a portion of their premium. Pretty much slave labor Chinese products came in and dominated the market. It wasn't long before people like me were going out of business. The jobs and the health insurance were also gone.
 
As usual, the full context isn't given regarding what RFK said about Trump. The only part included in most transcripts and articles was the "white horse" comment, and everybody flew off in different directions of assumption of what was meant by it. They didn't include the rest of the context.

RFKj went further and said the following-


Also, white horse symbolism is not limited to the Bible. It's been used throughout history as a symbol of hope, not just purity. A "knight in shining armor," and "riding a white horse" are symbolic of rescue as well as hope on a grand scale as well as a small one. We need to stop letting other people frame how we see things and think for ourselves a little more.

There is no way RFK was placing Trump on a biblical or pagan, god or savior level in his comments. In fact, it was simply about God providing Trump as a vehicle for him to reform the health of this country. I hope RFK doesn't sell out or stop short.
 

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Bleeding Heart Liberal Leslie Marshall from SoCal just on TV saying her daughter's friend's mother (of course she gave a vague example) was a Sunday school teacher that was just taken out of church last week and deported. She said she came here at 3 years of age and has never even had a traffic ticket. Her husband is in the US and was not targeted. I call complete and utter BS on this. They will stop at nothing to muddy the waters.
 
I'm free trade...thats called capitalism.

Protectionism is the same thing democrat socialists believe in. If your business sucks...thats your fault, I want access to what's better and more cost efficient.

Looking at this again... This sentiment really pisses me the f off. Not at you personally, but to all the people in America who have been tricked into thinking this way. The purpose of a community - and in a broader sense a country - is that we should take care of each other and try to optimize our community / country to the benefit of all of us.

Your stance - and the stance of so many in this country is - "I want what's best for me right now and to hell with the rest of you". Of course that's up until the time you need help from society.
Libertarianism has a lot of followers that don't think it through very far. They talk big but a lot wouldn't lift a finger to help implement anything, which is why it has so far failed as a movement.

You can't have free trade between an economic system that pays $3 per day and one that pays $7 per hour. If you can't reason that through then your ideology is a sht ideology backed by stupidity. Everything in between those extremes of pay scale also nukes the libertarian platform.

Same goes for immigration. Open borders is stupidity. If you have open borders you have no borders. Are libertarians so stupid that they believe people are altruistic these days? Have they not seen any international news the last 30 years? OR is it that libertarians HAVE seen the news and know that human rights would be destroyed very quickly with open borders and they either don't care or want them destroyed?

Libertarians are generally speaking as clueless as liberals, because they choose their ideology based on what sounds cool or is most convenient, as if these choices weren't available to the founders of this country. All of these choices were rejected for good reason, and for that I'm thankful.

A constitutional republic, with limitations placed on the govt, immutable rights granted by God rather than men, and borders and citizens to be defended and protected, rather than exploited and sold like chattel, is STILL the best solution. And, as always, it is only one or two ignorant generations from being lost and must be actively supported and preserved.
I took a graduate level constitutional law class in college because it allowed me to double-dip for some cross-disciplinary credits. Would have never been interested in it or researched it on my own, but man, you learned a lot about why and how some pretty significant federal laws were created. The most interesting ones had to do with water rights and "right to light" laws. Basically, the water rights laws centered around what you could do with a stream that went through your property and the light laws dictated what you could build next to a building that already existed as to not block out that building's sunlight as there was no electricity at the time. IIRC there were even different water laws for west of the Mississippi vs east of it as there was much more water to go around on the East side.

I bring this up because as you can surmise one person's complete freedom can totally eff up the economic value of another person's property, and therefore as a society we've decided to put some laws in place to benefit all parties.

However, when I talk to libertarians, they say shit like, "if I own a portion of a stream that flows through my property I should be able to do what I want with it". My libertarian uncle even said he should be able to dump pollutants into the stream if he wanted cause it's his. This line of thinking is so perverse I can't come to grips with it.
 
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I have first hand experience with competing with China in manufacturing. Forty years ago, I worked thirty people in a low skill manufacturing job. I paid what I could afford to pay and offered health insurance and paid a portion of their premium. Pretty much slave labor Chinese products came in and dominated the market. It wasn't long before people like me were going out of business. The jobs and the health insurance were also gone.
And companies like Wal-Mart did the same thing to mom and pop businesses all across the country using those cheap goods from China. Double whammy.

Free trade is fine so long as it is fair. What we have had in this country for the last three or four decades is far from either.
 
Looking at this again... This sentiment really pisses me the f off. Not at you personally, but to all the people in America who have been tricked into thinking this way. The purpose of a community - and in a broader sense a country - is that we should take care of each other and try to optimize our community / country to the benefit of all of us.

Your stance - and the stance of so many in this country is - "I want what's best for me right now and to hell with the rest of you". Of course that's up until the time you need help from society.

I took a graduate level constitutional law class in college because it allowed me to double-dip for some cross-disciplinary credits. Would have never been interested in it or researched it on my own, but man, you learned a lot about why and how some pretty significant federal laws were created. The most interesting ones had to do with water rights and "right to light" laws. Basically, the water rights laws centered around what you could do with a stream that went through your property and the light laws dictated what you could build next to a building that already existed as to not block out that building's sunlight as there was no electricity at the time. IIRC there were even different water laws for west of the Mississippi vs east of it as there was much more water to go around on the East side.

I bring this up because as you can surmise one person's complete freedom can totally eff up the economic value of another person's property, and therefore as a society we've decided to put some laws in place to benefit all parties.

However, when I talk to libertarians, they say shit like, "if I own a portion of a stream that flows through my property I should be able to do what I want with it". My libertarian uncle even said he should be able to dump pollutants into the stream if he wanted cause it's his. This line of thinking is so perverse I can't come to grips with it.

Exactly. The whole idea is survival of the fittest and wealthiest, and fk the guy trying to make it without infringing on the rights of others. The libertarians of the 1700s would have been split down the middle as to which side to promote during the revolution.

George Soros himself is basically libertarian. That is the entire premise of his open society foundation. Money for the sake of money. It's great for those who have it, because the gap between rich and poor grows exponentially as the poor and middle class merge at the bottom of the wage scale. It's what has been happening to this country for over 30 years.
 
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Free trade is fine so long as it is fair. What we have had in this country for the last three or four decades is far from either.
I believe in what David Ricardo and others said about free trade where you look at comparative advantages and traded accordingly. For example, Canada has a lot of maple syrup. We grow a lot of corn. Let's trade.

The angle on China can be defined in those terms as well. They have a lot of low-wage people. We grow a lot of corn. Let's trade our corn for their manufactured products. In theory, that's great. The problem is, you're not factoring in all the externalities (e.g., impact on communities, building up of our military rival) of that choice into the benefits of the cheaper products. When you factor those costs in, it more than makes up for the difference of what a US-made (or even Mexican made) product is.
 
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I have first hand experience with competing with China in manufacturing. Forty years ago, I worked thirty people in a low skill manufacturing job. I paid what I could afford to pay and offered health insurance and paid a portion of their premium. Pretty much slave labor Chinese products came in and dominated the market. It wasn't long before people like me were going out of business. The jobs and the health insurance were also gone.
Owning a small business takes guts. Probably will take a few years off the owner’s life due to stress incurred and loss of sleep.
 
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^ I see the useful idiot boy wonder has received his new DNCcp talking points and on another spam tirade.
 
And companies like Wal-Mart did the same thing to mom and pop businesses all across the country using those cheap goods from China. Double whammy.

Free trade is fine so long as it is fair. What we have had in this country for the last three or four decades is far from either.
A number of years ago, a company was trying to take advantage of the Wal-Mart "made in America" thing they were pushing. This company had me make a trial order for WalMart. Wal-Mart sent an inspector to my site to investigate and watch us manufacture for a day. All the company wanted was to get their foot in the door with Wal-Mart and become a qualified supplier. They started importing my products and several other items instead of having them made in the USA. I don't know if Wal-Mart realized they had done the old switcheroo or not, but they were selling made in the USA products that were imports. For several years, Wal-Mart sent me emails inviting me to offer them proposals for my product, but I never made an offer.
 
^ I see the useful idiot boy wonder has received his new DNCcp talking points and on another spam tirade.
I f'ing love the articles that say, "so and so USAID program that gives red state dickhead university $15M to study obscure bullshit on chopping block; confuses employees" as if that crap was doing society some great favor.
 
A number of years ago, a company was trying to take advantage of the Wal-Mart "made in America" thing they were pushing. This company had me make a trial order for WalMart. Wal-Mart sent an inspector to my site to investigate and watch us manufacture for a day. All the company wanted was to get their foot in the door with Wal-Mart and become a qualified supplier. They started importing my products and several other items instead of having them made in the USA. I don't know if Wal-Mart realized they had done the old switcheroo or not, but they were selling made in the USA products that were imports. For several years, Wal-Mart sent me emails inviting me to offer them proposals for my product, but I never made an offer.
Steve Bannon is pushing reparations from the Waltons and I am ALL FOR IT.
 
I have first hand experience with competing with China in manufacturing. Forty years ago, I worked thirty people in a low skill manufacturing job. I paid what I could afford to pay and offered health insurance and paid a portion of their premium. Pretty much slave labor Chinese products came in and dominated the market. It wasn't long before people like me were going out of business. The jobs and the health insurance were also gone.
Familiar with the Longaberger Basket story in Ohio? Huge basket making business. Had several large factories close to the 'Amish Country' of east central Ohio. Chinese import baskets started coming in and the business is now gone.

This was their home office......

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DEI at it's best.....

Women have no business in fields like this.
 
He was an idiot then and he's an idiot now.
Posting a CNN link to anything COVID related has to be satire, right? This will be a waste of time and energy, but this is going to get good with you trying to defend Biden/left's stance and actions on COVID.
 
Steve Bannon is pushing reparations from the Waltons and I am ALL FOR IT.
When I lived in Atlanta I did a lot of traveling all over the South. In the 70s/early 80s a lot of bypasses were built around small towns to alleviate traffic going thru the towns. Most if not all these towns had thriving downtowns with many small, local businesses. A year or two after the bypasses were built, or sooner, WalMart and McDonalds built on the bypass....which led to more regional/national companies coming in and building as well. Within years the town(s) were dead with boarded up stores.
 
^ I see the useful idiot boy wonder has received his new DNCcp talking points and on another spam tirade.
Name 1 thing I posted that is untrue. Red states are way more dependent on federal government dollars than blue states as a percentage of their state expenditures.
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Top 12 biggest teat suckers in US are red states.
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More DOGE I say!! Get off the big blue tax teat bitc***.

 
Name 1 thing I posted that is untrue. Red states are way more dependent on federal government dollars than blue states as a percentage of their state expenditures.
DOGE is gonna kick y'all's red asses. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Top 12 biggest teat suckers in US are red states.
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More DOGE I say!! Get off the big blue tax teat bitc***.


I'm reminded of a poem:

At first they came for Sambowieshin, and all of the Cat's Pause cheered cause F him.
 
The only idiots are the people salivating at all his court cases only to see him now stand over all of them, looking down.

LOL @ Democrats. Complete buffoon's living in denial. LMAO!
Reality getting ready to hit the poor ass red states that have been sponging off of blue states for years. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

"Minnesota, New Jersey, Delaware, Illinois and Florida are least dependent on the federal government. These states all contribute multiples more to the federal government than they receive, with residents paying at least $5 in taxes for every $1 in direct support received from the federal government."

 
Well done by Vance here

Tell that to the women and children bombed and blown to pieces in Ukraine.
Trump and Vance are F'ing idiots if they truly believe that.




 
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