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Super Bowl Halftime

I think it just speaks to popularity and what people generally think of someone who is seen as universally loved (even though that is rarely true). When someone is so pervasive in a culture, it's easy to get sick of them. I was sick of seeing Kevin Hart's unfunny ass and The Rock in every movie for what seemed like a 10 year period. I'm sick of most of the known political figures that exist in our society and I'm sure a ton of people are sick of seeing Taylor Swift on sunday's (especially considering they would likely be doing anything to avoid seeing her).

It's a testament to just how popular she is that seemingly everyone has taken a turn hating her. Hell, a lot of people were criticizing MJ in the early 2000's because of all of the weird things he did (his marriage, dangling kids over balconies, giving extremely weird interviews). Nevermind the fact that it was obvious that man was tortured as a child and never got to experience youth.

It's a tough sell.
People were criticizing MJ because he was very likely a child molester. Taylor Swift has about as good of an outward public image as you can get.
 
People were criticizing MJ because he was very likely a child molester. Taylor Swift has about as good of an outward public image as you can get.

They absolutely were, I agree. But my point is that MJ was clearly being abused, mishandled (he was killed) and was clearly mentally unstable. I suppose I poorly articulated that.
 
Well that and nobody buys f*cking albums anymore

I was coming to say this. Music success is tracked by streams these days. Not many people are buying physical music in 2025, and this has been true for at least a decade.

Back in the day a no name could go gold or platinum off one hit single. These days, only superstars (usually older than 40) have platinum album sales.
 
Aside from the fact that there are 18 states listed on that poster, that tour ran over several years and included 21 counties worldwide.

You aren't helping your argument mate.

These are also stadium dates in NFL or MLB stadiums. Probably aren’t going to North Dakota, West Virginia or Maine to do a show in an AAA baseball stadium for an act that big.

When an artist becomes too big to play arenas, that artist has made a huge impact culturally. I say that as someone who thinks Swift’s music sucks and I wouldn’t choose to listen to it on any occasion.
 
I was coming to say this. Music success is tracked by streams these days. Not many people are buying physical music in 2025, and this has been true for at least a decade.

Back in the day a no name could go gold or platinum off one hit single. These days, only superstars (usually older than 40) have platinum album sales.
I haven't bought a CD in 20+ years and probably been about 15-20 years since I even bought an mp3.
 
I haven't bought a CD in 20+ years and probably been about 15-20 years since I even bought an mp3.

I pay for Spotify now as a responsible, law abiding adult.

Like you, I haven’t bought physical music in at least a decade and a half, and I never have paid for an MP3 because I learned to steal those in 1999. Lol.
 
You are missing the entire damn point again and again. The average person doesn’t give two shits about musicians they don’t like. There hasn’t been any artist in history that has appealed to everyone…. This includes Elvis, the Beatles and MJ who are three of the biggest/influential acts ever. The whole point is that Swift is currently the biggest act in the world. Name me a more popular/bigger act in the last ten years.

Again I don’t really give two shits about her. Pop isn’t my thing. There are 30 others I would pay good money to see. With that being said, I am able to recognize she has a ton of talent and has worked hard to put herself at the top. I have a sneaking suspicion that her politics clash with yours. If she was a good old republican girl who was born and bred in the south I don’t think you would go to the lengths to argue against the obvious.
That clearly is you projecting your TDS into his comment. Nobody gives a shit about her politics. All any of us know is that she said she was voting for a Harris. Don't you realize that we all know "Hollywood entertainers" get cancelled if they come out as Republicans. She inspired how many 14yo girls to vote for Kamala? BFD Your sneaking suspicion is BS.
 
I didn't watch this because I knew it wouldn't appeal to me. I know he's super famous and a great rap artist but for whatever reason I haven't heard his songs. Or maybe I have and didn't know the name of the artist.

I loved the Eminem and 50 cent and snoop and dre one and the usher one. J lo and Shakira were just eye candy. They can't appeal to everyone every halftime show. Different folks like different things.
 
I pay for Spotify now as a responsible, law abiding adult.

Like you, I haven’t bought physical music in at least a decade and a half, and I never have paid for an MP3 because I learned to steal those in 1999. Lol.
There was some Russian website I found at one point where you could buy mp3s for pennies, and it had practically everything somehow. And I can listen to some pretty obscure stuff. It was very likely illegally hosted at those prices but it best dealing with Napster, Limewire, etc.
 
I purposely change the channel at halftime every year. I tune in for the game. Not for all of the sideshows that come with the Super Bowl that attract the casual fan who doesn't give a damn about watching the NFL outside of one game a year.
 
You seem to be one of those people who can't believe other people would view the world differently than you do.

Adamant about not using information from online but posting AI summaries of halftime shows to prove a take isn't biased, etc.

I hope this is just some next level trolling.
How about just random common sense....? When Michael Jackson was king... You had 10 radio stations per town (avg), 5 tv channels (local), 36 cable channels (where I lived), 2 music channels on cable.... Jackson was getting played on 2 or 3 of the radio stations, was getting mentions on every tv channel and was being mentioned on half the cable channels and was the single biggest star on the 2 music channels. He had fans across every age group, male and female, all races, creeds and religions on every single continent....

I would hope you agree that Taylor Swift's fans are roughly 10yo to 35 yo white females. Probably 95% of her fans are in that demo. I can't name more than 2 songs she's done. Most people I know can't name more than 2 songs she's done. If you can't see why my opinion is what it is then we just don't work the same with deduction. It's a numbers game to me. She is by far a better businesswoman than he was, but he was by far a bigger star.

The whole point of SB halftime show is to appeal to as many people as possible. Somehow, we quit worrying about that. LOL
 
People were criticizing MJ because he was very likely a child molester. Taylor Swift has about as good of an outward public image as you can get.
Allegedly. I would actually argue with you that he ever touched a child sexually.
 
That you won’t answer the question??? You get backed into a corner and avoid

You pull shit out of your ass non stop and convince yourself it has to be true. You remember when you claimed that 80% of all shooters were on meds??? You got called out and disappeared. Same thing happening here. Look it’s okay you don’t like her and Kendrick. No one is trying to convince you that you should
RFK jr was just confirmed as HHS secretary.... He's talked about ssri's and childrens mental health. I'll make you a deal. If they do a real study with legit data.... If I'm wrong, I will say I'm wrong. If the study comes out how I think it will... Where you gonna be?
 
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