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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

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That's not happening w/o changes as there will only be enough $ to fund around 75% of benefits in 10 years or so. So some of increase taxes, decrease benefits or increase retirement ages has to happen.
I agree totally ... go ahead and increase the FICA and MEDICARE rates and limits, if necessary to insure solvency and benefits.
 
You know I have not looked at the ballot as far as what all we are voting on but I do take a while to vote as well as I read and take my time on each part of the ballot. Today or tomorrow I will look at it online (i think we can do that) so i am more prepared this year on the 2 issues that are on the ballot.

I know that is making it take longer.
OK Just read the clark county ballot. Quite a bit on it. Glad I did. I know my votes already so it will be quick for me Tuesday.
 
It can be markedly improved w/o getting rid of it. Also, all votes beyond enough to win by one vote are throw outs in any election.
An unrealistic thought experiment would be nationwide voting districts, without regard to state boundaries (which as arbitrary as hell anyway), all adjusted for equal population in each. Would never happen, of course, but interesting to consider. Then, all votes would matter.
 
Or ya know...the federal government could enforce federal law. Crazy idea I know.
Which laws does any US government enforce perfectly? None. NET, your ideal solution is impossible & you know it. But that doesn't stop your bs. Try again if you care to.
 
This is my favorite. Sure, Democrats intentionally released a virus and used their mouthpiece media to push hysteria, and Dem governors shut down states, killing jobs and tanking the economy but we will blame Trump.

🖕 you, dude.

You know what is driving Wall Street? The fact that Trump has been the favorite for 2 years to win re-election. LOL
 
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Yes, you can always find a sample ballot online/local paper etc. That's all I ask: be familiar with it before you go. And, in the case of things like city council; if you have simply no idea who to vote for, then please don't. I say that because a lot of people DO have an informed opinion/reasons to vote for a particular person(s), and if uninformed voters just start checking, then it invalidates the informed voters.
I agree 1000%. If I do not know (say board of Ed picks I abstain from that part of the vote). I have only thrown away 1 vote ever on president since i have been able to vote. I always do my research on Pres / Congress / Reps but sometime since I work in cincinnati and live in winchester do not know much on the local stuff.
 
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An unrealistic thought experiment would be nationwide voting districts, without regard to state boundaries (which as arbitrary as hell anyway), all adjusted for equal population in each. Would never happen, of course, but interesting to consider. Then, all votes would matter.
NE & ME have the best answer: Award one EV per congressional district and 2 to the overall state winner. Then candidates have to campaign in every competitive district which are spread throughout the country. Really wouldn't much be battleground "states" but battleground "districts". Preserves the EC & spreads campaigning around. Harris might campaign for KY 6th. Trump for OH 1st & 2nd. Trump would win KY 7-1 vs. 8-0, but he'd come out ahead in other places. Would likely make EC vote totals closer to popular votes though it wouldn't change 75-25+ districts' outcomes.
 
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We need to outlaw political adds on TV and internet. Most countries do not allow it. It should be door to door, print (mail) or if you sign up email or rallys / town hall meetings. It would take away so much of this hatred. People online are internet tough guys and we all want to get our points across but do not realize how much hatred we spew towards each other on election stuff. It is not called for.

Each and every legal US citizen has a right to vote their conscious.

Politicians should not be able to discuss the other candidate running. It should only be about what your policies are and why you are the better candidate. That would stop about 75% of the misinformation from both sides. It would also take TV/media out of elections.
 
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This piece does a good job of summing up my political make-up, especially the part about being uninterested in politics for most of my life. I am 72, have never been registered as a Democrat or Republican and have only voted twice in my lifetime. 2020 and 2024. My wife is the same way and I know a few others just like us … apolitical, pretty much, until the 2000 election. To my view, I can relate to why there were so many voters in 2000.
It cannot be stated plainly enough that there are no good arguments against the EC. No person who understands the formation of the Union of states should need an explanation why.
 
Some of the X accounts I’m seeing today are sounding more bullish for Harris. People hedging the middle or are they anticipating more election “fortification”.


It’s a lot of things:


Pre-determined “suppression” polls.

Expected (yet now observed) fraud in MI, PA, GA, and CO

Coordinated effort to try and shift momentum in favor of Harris and distract from her lame, rambling giggle rants in HS gymnasiums,

Dark money propping her up in the betting markets.


In short: Create conditions that will allow half the country to believe the results are legitimate if they steal it for Dems again.
 
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An unrealistic thought experiment would be nationwide voting districts, without regard to state boundaries (which as arbitrary as hell anyway), all adjusted for equal population in each. Would never happen, of course, but interesting to consider. Then, all votes would matter.
What if we just accepted the Constitution as it was written?
 
I didn't actually see them enforce it. I don't know if they were timing people or it was just there for people who were trying to slow things down.

Well, give ME that job, and guaranTEE you that it's getting enforced. LOL

"That's FOUR minutes. Drop the pencil and move to the scanner."

"But I didn't finish."

"Well, you've finished all you're GOING to, now beat it."
 
Probably seeing all the instances of fraud and residing themselves to the fact Trump won’t likely be allowed to win.
He won once. He lost once. Because he was widely hated.

Just because you've adopted his lies doesn't create some bizarre machinery for keeping Republicans from office. As was pointed out many times: Trump underperformed in 2020. Lots of Republicans won office. Why did he underperform? His narcissism, greed, misogyny, stupidity, vanity, cowardice. His fraud and rape. His non-stop lying. And he's the apotheosis of the bully. For starters. And let's not forget: he never shuts up. And his formulaic self-praise. People are always coming up to him with tears in their eyes. And they all call him "Sir." And I haven't mentioned his theft of government documents. Or his extortion of Ukraine. Or his abuse of the courts. Or doubling down on calling for the death of the Central Park 5. Their confessions were forced from them. OTOH, Trump was found liable for sexual assault. No forced confession. In fact, in the famous Access Hollywood tape, he gloated about grabbing women by the pussy. Didn't turn out to be locker room joking, did it?
 
I've only voted twice. Biden and Harris were my votes and I would've preferred a better choice both times. I did not vote for them because they were Democrats, but only because I preferred them over Donald Trump. Because of the electoral college and living in Kentucky, I knew my vote would not matter in the outcome of the election.
mean tweets got you, huh? 60 some odd years of life with no votes, but gotta vote against the orange man bad. I feel sorry for you.
From the 2024 GOP platform:
1. Seal the border
2. End inflation
3. Prevent WWIII
4. Support and Defend the Constitution
5. Protect Medicare and Social Security with no cuts, including no changes to the mandatory retirement age.
I call BS. There is NO way you want these things and still voted for Kamala. She personally destroyed your first two and is on her way to destroying your other 3. Sorry, pops. You lack credibility if those are your top issues that you agree with GOP.
Fwiw … Trump was a life-long Democrat, too.
Then he saw how the dims were destroying the country. Glad he finally joined the side trying to save the country. But congrats you helped destroy it.
 
I agree totally ... go ahead and increase the FICA and MEDICARE rates and limits, if necessary to insure solvency and benefits.
of COURSE you feel that way ... now that you're on the other side. You must not give 2 chits about the younger generation to include your grandchildren. You are 100% okay with OTHERS paying higher so you can keep your viagra low...
 
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For those worried about NC, you might want to check this analysis out which takes the early vote result (with one day left) into consideration. NC also now requires ID to vote which was not the case in 2020.

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I just started seeing this guy about 3 weeks ago. He really knows his stuff...analysis county by county off the top of his head.
 
We need to outlaw political adds on TV and internet. Most countries do not allow it.
Couldn't disagree more. If the US went this way, then the corporate uniparty media would choose ALL of the candidates and, in essence, run the country. If it is a fact that most countries do not allow it ... you have to understand they do not have a free press and that should steer any clear thinker away from that idea.
Politicians should not be able to discuss the other candidate running. It should only be about what your policies are and why you are the better candidate. That would stop about 75% of the misinformation from both sides. It would also take TV/media out of elections.
Here is my observation. Every Kamala ad has been a lie. Every single one. I have not seen one of her ads that has been honest, esp WRT her attacks on trump. Having said that, I wish we could stop rewarding pols for talking trash about the other candidate. Stop telling me why I shouldn't vote for them, but why I should vote for you ... AND know this ... your a pol, so no one trusts you. tell me what you've done in your life or votes that you have ALREADY cast that support your position. For example ... Kamala says she wants to build a border wall and lower taxes. If anyone believes either one of those, then they are a special kind of stupid and have no business being outside a padded cell.
 
^ I had a write-in city council vote that I needed help to figure out how to do on "the screen machine". Added a minute or so.
 
I just started seeing this guy about 3 weeks ago. He really knows his stuff...analysis county by county off the top of his head.
He did a segment on the Sean Spicer show a few weeks back. That's how I became aware of his real data based work. He also has his final prediction for Nevada (Trump +2.5%) on his website.
 
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Couldn't disagree more. If the US went this way, then the corporate uniparty media would choose ALL of the candidates and, in essence, run the country. If it is a fact that most countries do not allow it ... you have to understand they do not have a free press and that should steer any clear thinker away from that idea.

Here is my observation. Every Kamala ad has been a lie. Every single one. I have not seen one of her ads that has been honest, esp WRT her attacks on trump. Having said that, I wish we could stop rewarding pols for talking trash about the other candidate. Stop telling me why I shouldn't vote for them, but why I should vote for you ... AND know this ... your a pol, so no one trusts you. tell me what you've done in your life or votes that you have ALREADY cast that support your position. For example ... Kamala says she wants to build a border wall and lower taxes. If anyone believes either one of those, then they are a special kind of stupid and have no business being outside a padded cell.
Man I love this discussion: I go by discussions I have had with people living in other countries. So not all other countries, as I have not had conversations with someone from everywhere. NZ/AUS/JAPAN/Spain/Portugal are a few, Netherlands and so forth.

Our media is far too involved in politics, that is why other countries do not allow it. But I see your point as well so no easy fix there.

But adds that mislead (been on both sides but like you point out more on one side by far than the other), should be able to be legally stopped and made to have people / media have to retract, fined and such. If you are getting a billion or even 400 million for you to use and you use it to spread misinformation then you should be fined, and not like $10k but like $150k first offense, 1Mil 2nd offense. That would put a stop to it. It is easy to have a 3rd party view adds go to what is referred in said add and bring it to an election commission. Fine would be immediate. If you are a TV / Media any form / show favoritism toward one candidate over any other then said media platform/station is fined in a similar way. Debates should never be run by employees of the same media (CBS hosts a debate then Fox has the rep and vise versa). There should be representative of election commission on site to control that debate keep everyone in line. Thing are so easy to fix. When you start talking about 1 billion of $400 million being raised then you need to be held accountable for every little thing you say. Fines would control who a candidate pics to talk on stage and such. Maybe this all sounds easy and is far harder to implement. I dont know.
 
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I don't think anyone denies that the earth is warming (again) But I DO think that reasonable people can legitimately say that man isn't causing it.

There is a big difference between the two.
The same people who are pushing man is having an affect on the climate for climate change) are the same ones who say man can't affect the climate. (See HARP and Hurricanes post).
 
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