POLITICAL THREAD

[HymanKaplan]

Increased tax revenue, on a societal scale has been proven, time and time again, to be grossly ineffective.

Public education is proof of that.

Fundamentally, it's not a "money" problem. It's an execution problem. If the government could demonstrate that they are good stewards of tax dollars, then I'd happily agree to tax increases if necessary. But, you see, therein lies the problem: They are NOT. And the more you give them, the more they waste and take those revenues for granted/waste them for political, rather than humanitarian gain.

It's like trying to teach a child the value of money, by raising their allowance, after they continually waste it on candy/toys...

IOW - They need to learn to spend effectively, with less, and THEN, once they've learned their lesson, we can revisit the issue of "raising their allowance"

 

[Marleydogg]

As I said, they did not sue the head of state. You can't sue the President. Read the article and see who the defendants are.

Berenson v Biden.

Look it up. Ffs.

 

[MidseasonTweak]

Increased tax revenue, on a societal scale has been proven, time and time again, to be grossly ineffective.

Public education is proof of that.

Fundamentally, it's not a "money" problem. It's an execution problem. If the government could demonstrate that they are good stewards of tax dollars, then I'd happily agree to tax increases if necessary. But, you see, therein lies the problem: They are NOT. And the more you give them, the more they waste and take those revenues for granted/waste them for political, rather than humanitarian gain.

It's like trying to teach a child the value of money, by raising their allowance, after they continually waste it on candy/toys...

IOW - They need to learn to spend effectively, with less, and THEN, once they've learned their lesson, we can revisit the issue of "raising their allowance"

If anything, public education is underfunded, so investing more into it would be a net-positive.

 

[HymanKaplan]

MidseasonTweak - I'll respectfully disagree, about Public Education being underfunded. I believe, based upon my observations, growing up in a family of educators, and having worked in that field myself, for 3 decades, that the majority of funding is misspent.

 

[thabigbluenation]

Someone actually made a statement that we don't spend enough on public education. That's cute. Considering we already spend, per capita, more than any country in the world and many countries combined even.

1979 US is ranked #1 in the world in education. Govt creates department of education. As of a few yrs ago we were ranked 29th in the world. What changed?

Just continually giving the govt more money and authority is like trying to piss in a tornado.

 

[SDC888]

Dude, it is really not hard to be informed. Unless you trust the drive-by corporate uniparty media.

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Harris is barely up according the website, but here is the info I want to take you to for my point:
This Day In History: August 10, 2020: Biden +6.9 | August 10, 2016: Clinton +7.7

1. What were the final tallies in 16 and 20? (Hint ... not even close.)
2. Which candidate did the polls lean to and by how much?
3. If those polls were so far off, and in one direction. Then why should we trust this poll?? ESPECIALLY when she has not announced one policy position on her website.

Please give us a good, honest reason.

 

[SDC888]

Are you going to turn away any inheritance from your parents? Do they have a will? Have you told them to turn your share over to the government to be redistributed? As if the government would even do that with it.

No doubt he's railing on and on about how it would only work if everyone did it!

No, it could never work. And no, communism is most certainly not compatible with our foundational American values. There is no misconstruction of what the Founding Fathers envisioned that can square that circle. His beliefs, like this one about property, are completely antithetical to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness (property). My property belongs to me, the individual, not the government (collective). If you take it and all I worked for from me after death, then all that means is that I was renting it from you while alive. That is communism.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Like I said earlier; show me (speaking to the government) that you can manage your finances responsibly, and then maybe we can talk about raising your allowance. Barring that, start mowing lawns to pick up extra cash.

That's not a bad idea actually. For every 1000 dollars of deficit spending, The Legislative and Executive branches should have to do an hour of community service. And I don't mean reading to children. I mean picking up trash or serving free meals at a homeless shelter. Without exception.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Just like communism, they aren't going to make the same mistake twice. Just ask them.

In other words, communism would work if you just put Dion and Sam and nightwish in charge.

 

[HymanKaplan]

CSM Tim Walz' "weapon of war"...

 

[ukalum1988]

 

[AustinTXCat]

Our government shouldn't have a loophole to disregard a presidential election. That was the purpose of the 1887 Electoral Count Act, to close that loophole after it was discovered and used in 1876 by former slave states to contest the election. Sadly it's too vague to be effective and the issue remains to be addressed. Also, kind of hilarious that y'all literally quoted Stalin to justify your coup. Who're the authoritarian commies again?

 

[AustinTXCat]

Here's a slightly outdated list of lawsuits against evil Biden administration. Many more coming, I am sure.

Multistate lawsuits against the federal government during the Biden administration

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

 

[BankerCat12]

Like I said, you have no interest in equality of opportunity. To each his own, but don't act like you do you then. Nobles and serfs are justified to you as long as you and yours are the ones on top.

I have no interest in people like yourself that expect equality of opportunity but don’t want to work hard to achieve a better lifestyle like the people you are relying on. That’s your choice to live a miserable life expecting me to help you. I’m going to teach my kids to work hard, try to be better than everyone else, and reward them with my assets when I pass. I won’t think one second about you and your continued laziness.

Make something of yourself Dion.

 

[HymanKaplan]

People often confuse equality of outcome and equality of opportunity.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Wouldn't a corporate bonus be considered a tip by the BOD/shareholders (of a publicly held company)?

 

[UKUGA]

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

[Catfan in Tn.]

Secret Service apologizes after breaking into Massachusetts salon to use bathroom before Harris fundraiser

Secret Service are facing scrutiny over their treatment of a local salon in Massachusetts ahead of a fundraiser for Vice President Kamala Harris.

www.foxnews.com

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

lol, Biden's America. No rules, no fear of accountability. Total disgrace.

Secret Service apologizes after breaking into Massachusetts salon to use bathroom before Harris fundraiser

Secret Service are facing scrutiny over their treatment of a local salon in Massachusetts ahead of a fundraiser for Vice President Kamala Harris.

www.foxnews.com

 

[SDC888]

People often confuse equality of outcome and equality of opportunity.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

Guys if you are trying to save conservatism...the choice is clear, you have to vote for Kamala:

 

[vhcat70]

😄 lying pos

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He has slick commercials that dodge his lib record, play up his supposed crime toughness, & make Moreno look like a criminal. He should be beaten but highly doubt it will happen.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Over 5 million missing ballot images . . .

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But aside from that, “no evidence of fraud” in Jawja.

Come on guys. Forget what happened in GA. Kemp and Raffensberger have R’s next to their names. No one should speak ill of anything they oversaw in GA.

 

[vhcat70]

Been out of the loop all week. Is the election over?

What's new? 🤪

 

[screwduke1]

Stan, the master of the laughing emoji and the ongoing joke of all threads on this forum.

Hes a loser. It's hilarious.

 

[vhcat70]

Sorta curious what's got this thread so worked up about Walz.

Trump is well-defined. Harris isn't for a lot of people. Since she doesn't talk to anyone publicly, scrutinizing her choices is an important way to do that to her.

 

[vhcat70]

Stephon Curry is pretty good at basketball...

He makes the rim look 2' diameter.

 

[vhcat70]

This is the ONE, and the ONLY ONE guarantee about the November election:

It is going to remain pissy as hell in here for time eternal, no matter what happens.

Yea, I mean if Trump wins I'll really start b!tching about him then.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

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Had Michael Brown not have been killed we would have gone to Proxima Centauri by now. Plus cured all disease. He was an aspiring rapper

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Yea, I mean if Trump wins I'll really start b!tching about him then.

Any news from the white dudes for Kamala meeting?

Any testosterone in the room?

Do you guys watch Sleepless in Seattle at the end of the meetings?

 

[HeismaNole]

MidseasonTweak - I'll respectfully disagree, about Public Education being underfunded. I believe, based upon my observations, growing up in a family of educators, and having worked in that field myself, for 3 decades, that the majority of funding is misspent.

I can’t believe the left makes this argument about schools being “underfunded.” We have spent sooooo much money and it doesn’t work. It’s ineffective. Scores are getting lower. Kids are dumber. Because you cannot fix an issue at home which time and time again shows that culture matters.

Ever since the DOE came into existence, we have got worse and worse. It’s to the point now that an 8th grade education in the 1920s is more impressive than a high school education of today. I’d say it’s more impressive than most modern bachelor’s degrees.

 

[vhcat70]

Iran knows they are in deep trouble if Trump takes office back. Of course they want Kamala to win. They will probably take over the Middle East.

Border control & handling Middle East are probably his two strongest points.

 

[HeismaNole]

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My buddy is from Missouri and spoke of all of these people being bussed in. That’s the left’s strategy. Bus in the chaos.

The left always has bottom feeders as heroes. George Floyd and Michael Brown were absolute trash human beings. Brown had just choked a grown man and robbed him and then tried to kill a cop but the left makes him a “hero.” Floyd goes without saying.

 

[JumperJack]

If anything, public education is underfunded, so investing more into it would be a net-positive.

This is comically untrue.

We became the greatest power in the world spending far, far less on education.

You can’t hide behind the same old canards and slogans, Dr.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I have no interest in people like yourself that expect equality of opportunity but don’t want to work hard to achieve a better lifestyle like the people you are relying on. That’s your choice to live a miserable life expecting me to help you. I’m going to teach my kids to work hard, try to be better than everyone else, and reward them with my assets when I pass. I won’t think one second about you and your continued laziness.

Make something of yourself Dion.

It’s nauseating.

Just whines about his position in life rather than trying to better himself or develop marketable knowledge or skill sets.

The 30-40% marginal rates I pay in income taxes isn’t enough. Need so many more handouts the government needs to borrow $40 trillion and confiscate all my private property when I die.

He borrows a ton of money to spend it on a worthless degree and wants to tax me more to pay his debts. Advocates for free UBI handouts after the founders of OpenAI (who had a vested interest in showing UBI was a good thing) recently published a study showing it’s an abysmal failure.

 

[vhcat70]

Oh no. Are they gonna indict him for mean words? And it cracks me up that Axios put 3 red sirens on the tweet...like it's some massive story about a terror attack or a mass murder event. But nope...just that Trump calls her a bitch.

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If true, that would be a good reason to vote for him.

 

[Mike-McD]

Increased tax revenue, on a societal scale has been proven, time and time again, to be grossly ineffective.

Public education is proof of that.

Fundamentally, it's not a "money" problem. It's an execution problem. If the government could demonstrate that they are good stewards of tax dollars, then I'd happily agree to tax increases if necessary. But, you see, therein lies the problem: They are NOT. And the more you give them, the more they waste and take those revenues for granted/waste them for political, rather than humanitarian gain.

It's like trying to teach a child the value of money, by raising their allowance, after they continually waste it on candy/toys...

IOW - They need to learn to spend effectively, with less, and THEN, once they've learned their lesson, we can revisit the issue of "raising their allowance"

That's because most government officials are lawyers. What are lawyers good at? Emptying other people's pockets. The entire government is run by lawyers. You get what you pay for. Trump is a businessman, not a lawyer.

 

[Mike-McD]

Like I said earlier; show me (speaking to the government) that you can manage your finances responsibly, and then maybe we can talk about raising your allowance. Barring that, start mowing lawns to pick up extra cash.

That's not a bad idea actually. For every 1000 dollars of deficit spending, The Legislative and Executive branches should have to do an hour of community service. And I don't mean reading to children. I mean picking up trash or serving free meals at a homeless shelter. Without exception.

We didn't even have an income tax until 1913. We used tariffs to support the government before that. Anyone else think the fedgov is too big and bloated now?