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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

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Pretty sure after the pro Castro stuff that Bernie has no shot for Florida
I live here and I can vouch for that. Even in liberal South Florida he shot his wad with that one. Hispanics down there fled from socialism and dang if they are going to vote for a socialist in America when they and their parents have tasted freedom.

If Bernie is the nominee a lot of liberal congressmen and women are going to be sweating re-election. The best Democrat nominee for conservative America is Bernie Sanders. We have to get him on the Dim ticket. Florida does not allow crossing party lines but if they did, I would vote for him in the primary. We must have Bernie because it guarantees the house will switch to the GOP.
 
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Anyone taking bets on Platinumdumb showing up today? The Stock Markets gonna take a bit of a tumble because, you know, Trumps responsible for the Coronavirus and all. If he doesn't show up, somebody may need to check on him. I'm afraid he'll be found drowned in his own semen.
 
Definitely. I'm not really in the market of predictions; I have no idea what the dominant dynamics of a Trump/Bernie election would be and I'm not predicting a Bernie win. But to deny the demographic trends currently at work within our politics just because you and nobody you know are "socialists" is naive.

Buffett on Bernie Sanders: US can do better for those left behind, but cannot kill capitalism.

Translation: Warren Buffett is not as enthused about Sanders as he was about Obama.
 
Working in the yard Saturday afternoon and spotted a man going door to door up the street...great, knew I was a victim given I was in the middle of a project. Fast forward to the man coming up and asking me if I was so and so...yep, that's me. Great...some census bs or so I thought....I thought wrong. He said hello, I am blah blah blah...I still have no idea of his name, and I am running against Andy Barr for US Congress....WTF?

I immediately told him I was an Andy Barr supporter and thanks for the time. He then started rattling off stuff like the deficit, votes for this and that, etc, etc, etc. I asked him how his 401K was doing and if he had any issues with the economy? Blah, blah, blah....so I told him he had the wrong house and have a nice day. I think he got the same spill from at least half a dozen more houses that I know had Trump/Barr signs last time out.
 
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As to what about socialism is appealing, as I stated in the post the American left is advocating for catching up to the rest of the world with universal healthcare and social safety nets. The right calls everything the left does socialism.

I say this with all sincerity that I want Bernie Sanders to be the Democrat nominee. It will guarantee the House will flip and flip big.

As far as catching up with the world in health care. They need to catch up with us. You go to a filty clinic in Cuba and I will go to the Mayo Clinic. The poorest county in America has better health care than a socialist country in our Hemisphere. No one in America is denied health care. Emergency rooms can not turn you away. No one in America has to go hungry at night. Not a single person. We have churches and social programs that will feed everybody and anybody. Even non citizen, illegals.

So all of this fear your side spews out of your mouth is just that. Fear. That is what a socialist does, they try to scare the populous. Obviously you fell for it.
 
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I say this with all sincerity that I want Bernie Sanders to be the Democrat nominee. It will guarantee the House will flip and flip big.

As far as catching up with the world in health care. They need to catch up with us. You go to a filty clinic in Cuba and I will go to the Mayo Clinic. The poorest county in America has better health care than a socialist country in our Hemisphere. No one in America is denied health care. Emergency rooms can not turn you away. No one in America has to go hungry at night. Not a single person. We have churches and social programs that will feed everybody and anybody. Even non citizen, illegals.

So all of this fear your side spews out of your mouth is just that. Fear. That is what a socialist does, they try to scare the populous. Obviously you fell for it.
Doesn't pretty much every county in America have it's own public health clinic?

Dion likes to go on about the plight of the "generational poor" in America and discusses it in conjunction with the generational poor in places like China, India, etc, when there is in reality no comparison at all. The poorest of the poor in America still have it better than a good chunk of the populations over in those countries. And every American citizen, regardless of how poor they are have the means and freedoms to escape it, if they so choose or if they're willing to accept some help and guidance.
 
Given that government dictates the economy, it's political.

If you want to discuss macroeconomics - what's your thoughts on the Life Cycle Savings Hypotheses or the IS-LM model?

You can argue that politics effects almost everything else in society. "political" as it applies here is the red team vs blue team back and forth that often becomes rancorous and polarizing, we keep that segregated from the rest of the board but if you want to discuss economics on the political thread feel free to do so.
 
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IDK... Trump v Bernie will be close


No it won't. While this socialist movement is gaining steam within the democratic party, its relatively small when it comes to a general election. Almost zero independents will vote bernie, and a large percentage of moderate Democrats, which still make up the majority of that party, will just stay home or even convert to trump rather than vote socialist. I have democratic friends from all over the country and not a single one says they can vote for bernie. These are people that hate trump with every breath they take. While I understand that's a very small sample size, I do think it represents a larger feeling across the country. Moderate democrats are just as scared of socialism as conservatives.

Another very large part of this that is talked about very little is the media. The MSM tried very hard to get Hillary elected, and while a portion would support bernie, a large part will not. Just look at what some of the MSM people are currently saying, they HATE Bernie. Hillary didnt have that problem with a single member of the MSM.

The last point is Bernie has A LOT of skeletons in his closet. He can be proven to be pro communist and anti american with his own words. No lying or twisting of words required. The democrats are not taking advantage of this so as to not totally destroy their likely candidate. Trump will relentlessly show the american public sanders true colors. He wont hold back as he never does.

Trump is the perfect candidate to run against the Bern. He will say what needs to be said and have Bernie constantly defending his indefensible positions. Bernie's bad temper will flare constantly and it will be fun to watch. Bernie's base of ignorant 20 year old uneducated idiots like Dion will not be near enough to get bernie even close to elected.
 
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Also the democrats are shooting themselves in the foot. The moderate non socialist part of the party is still a huge majority, but it's being broken up between 3 or 4 candidates. If they quickly dropped down to 1 moderate, that person would beat bernie going away. Everyone is too prideful to back down though as they all feel they are the savior of the party. Add that to the fact they are all exceptionally weak candidates to begin with, and it's a recipe for what you're seeing, bernie running away with it.
 
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No it won't. While this socialist movement is gaining steam within the democratic party, its relatively small when it comes to a general election. Almost zero independents will vote bernie, and a large percentage of moderate Democrats, which still make up the majority of that party, will just stay home or even convert to trump rather than vote socialist. I have democratic friends from all over the country and not a single one says they can vote for bernie. These are people that hate trump with every breath they take. While I understand that's a very small sample size, I do think it represents a larger feeling across the country. Moderate democrats are just as scared of socialism as conservatives.

Another very large part of this that is talked about very little is the media. The MSM tried very hard to get Hillary elected, and while a portion would support bernie, a large part will not. Just look at what some of the MSM people are currently saying, they HATE Bernie. Hillary didnt have that problem with a single member of the MSM.

The last point is Bernie has A LOT of skeletons in his closet. He can be proven to be pro communist and anti american with his own words. No lying or twisting of words required. The democrats are not taking advantage of this so as to not totally destroy their likely candidate. Trump will relentlessly show the american public sanders true colors. He wont hold back as he never does.

Trump is the perfect candidate to run against the Bern. He will say what needs to be said and have Bernie constantly defending his indefensible positions. Bernie's bad temper will flare constantly and it will be fun to watch. Bernie's base of ignorant 20 year old uneducated idiots like Dion will not be near enough to get bernie even close to elected.
Sorry: I meant the EC vote will be close to Nixon v McGovern... I didnt make that clear.
 
Bernie was praising Castro on 60 Minutes....the most watched news program on television?

Like others have said many times, that dude ain't getting nominated because he has no intentions of being nominated. If something screwed up happened and he was nominated, he would fake a heart attack and quit.
 
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No it won't. While this socialist movement is gaining steam within the democratic party, its relatively small when it comes to a general election. Almost zero independents will vote bernie, and a large percentage of moderate Democrats, which still make up the majority of that party, will just stay home or even convert to trump rather than vote socialist. I have democratic friends from all over the country and not a single one says they can vote for bernie. These are people that hate trump with every breath they take. While I understand that's a very small sample size, I do think it represents a larger feeling across the country. Moderate democrats are just as scared of socialism as conservatives.

Another very large part of this that is talked about very little is the media. The MSM tried very hard to get Hillary elected, and while a portion would support bernie, a large part will not. Just look at what some of the MSM people are currently saying, they HATE Bernie. Hillary didnt have that problem with a single member of the MSM.

The last point is Bernie has A LOT of skeletons in his closet. He can be proven to be pro communist and anti american with his own words. No lying or twisting of words required. The democrats are not taking advantage of this so as to not totally destroy their likely candidate. Trump will relentlessly show the american public sanders true colors. He wont hold back as he never does.

Trump is the perfect candidate to run against the Bern. He will say what needs to be said and have Bernie constantly defending his indefensible positions. Bernie's bad temper will flare constantly and it will be fun to watch. Bernie's base of ignorant 20 year old uneducated idiots like Dion will not be near enough to get bernie even close to elected.
My only concern is how many ppl will stay home. Like never trump, independents, etc or will write in. Regardless down ballot the D's will get crushed.

Bernie will wilt tho when trump starts attacking him...hew liable to have a heart attack on stage

I've thought tho hes not serious about winning hes hist trying to plant a flag to get issues in the discourse. He has to know he'll be the most ineffective president in history.
 
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On The Circus last night, they asked Joe Biden if he had any thoughts of dropping out so the “moderates” could unite behind one candidate and stop Bernie. Biden said no because he’s going to win the nomination outright lol.


There’s no better scenario than Bernie winning the primary and the democrats also getting slaughtered down ticket as a result.


The chances of Bernie having a “completely unexpected” DNC/CIA induced massive heart attack are increasing by the day.
 
Most likely scenario: Bernie, under absolutely no pressure at all, chooses Mayor Pete and Evan McMuffin as co-VP candidates with absolutely no knowledge that they are both CIA connected. Bernie passes away silently in his sleep from a natural machete attack. Mayor Pete and Evan McMuffin get gay-poly married at the inauguration ball and promise free Amazon Prime memberships to everyone, all they have to do is send an Ancestry.com DNA test and install a Facebook camera in every room of their house.

Again, that's just the most likely scenario
 
Seems apparent that dion is just looking for the government to save him from whatever circumstances or choices led him to claim he’s a history major who isn’t in school, rather than someone with a degree.

As with all socialists, wants to make everyone as miserable as he is.

BUT, while trying to use big words...
 
National (In)Security Advisor...and the new head of DNI will be Trump's "Personal PR Machine"...

Wow CNN really got the Trump administration this time...instead of being the National Security Advisor he is the (In)Security Advisor...soooo clever.

This is how responsible news organizations act....right?


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Will Bernie be suicided with 3 bullets to the head? Obama whistle blower found dead from apparent suicide, yet he told people that if he died, it would not be suicide. Don’t know who the Hilary/DNC assassin is, but they are really good.
 
Haha only about a month ago all of these things were viewed as "Right Wing Talking Points"

CNN probably realizing Bernie has no chance to beat Trump is finally saying all the things the people on the right have been saying for so long. Also find it funny this is the day after (or night of) the day when Dion says Bernie has no plans on nationalizing any major industries, then CNN comes out with a quote of Bernie saying he wants to nationalize most major industries haha.
 
Haha only about a month ago all of these things were viewed as "Right Wing Talking Points"

CNN probably realizing Bernie has no chance to beat Trump is finally saying all the things the people on the right have been saying for so long. Also find it funny this is the day after (or night of) the day when Dion says Bernie has no plans on nationalizing any major industries, then CNN comes out with a quote of Bernie saying he wants to nationalize most major industries haha.

I stand by the moniker I coined; Diondadumbass...
 
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Haha only about a month ago all of these things were viewed as "Right Wing Talking Points"

CNN probably realizing Bernie has no chance to beat Trump is finally saying all the things the people on the right have been saying for so long. Also find it funny this is the day after (or night of) the day when Dion says Bernie has no plans on nationalizing any major industries, then CNN comes out with a quote of Bernie saying he wants to nationalize most major industries haha.


CNN has been wrong about literally everything for the last 4 years. Why do you think this is different? I disagree with him, but believe Bernie has actual support, and a message that resonates with most on the left. I don't think that's true of any other candidate. IMO they are attempting to torpedo his campaign because they are funded by big pharma and the military industrial complex and don't know if Bernie will keep that status quo.
 
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