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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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Bloomberg is a bigger gaffe machine than Hillary and Biden. Talk about being out of touch with everyday Americans. He is starting to expose himself every time he talks. No telling how poorly he does when he starts the debates. At least we know what he really thinks of us average everyday Americans...
 
Trump has really learned his lesson from the impeachment. He learned that Republicans are flacid sacks and that he can now take over the government and do as he pleases. Congratulations! In 3 short years, a democracy has been turned into a banana republic. As I've been saying for years, Republicans play lip service to the constitution and the rule of law. Power is all that matters.

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Bloomberg is a bigger gaffe machine than Hillary and Biden. Talk about being out of touch with everyday Americans. He is starting to expose himself every time he talks. No telling how poorly he does when he starts the debates. At least we know what he really thinks of us average everyday Americans...
He is a farmer. Dig a little hole put in the seed, cover it and presto corn. He does not have a clue about life.

Funny that Democrats have been lecturing us for decades about rich old white men and their money. And now they have two rich old billionaires running for President with a millionaire indian squaw and a millionaire socialist. The Diversity party.
 
I know people have a hard time questioning their political beliefs for the sake of maintaining their own personal security in their beliefs, but they should at least look and consider that which they choose not to believe. This study concurs with the surprise the Koch brothers had when they financed a similar study.
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Game changer

Trump administration considers tax incentive for more Americans to buy stocks, report says.

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The proposal would allow a portion of household income to be treated as tax-free for the purposes of investing outside a traditional 401(k), CNBC reported, citing four unnamed "senior administration officials familiar with the discussions." Under one potential scenario, a U.S. household earning up to $200,000 could invest $10,000 on a tax-free basis, although the numbers were fluid, CNBC said....

#MAGA. :americanflag:
 
I know people have a hard time questioning their political beliefs for the sake of maintaining their own personal security in their beliefs, but they should at least look and consider that which they choose not to believe. This study concurs with the surprise the Koch brothers had when they financed a similar study.

This is nonsense, as I've already explained to you multiple times you only arrive at the position you do by selective picking and choosing of facts and the false interpretation that you are morally superior to other people.

Objective and thorough anaylsis will always show, socialism kills and individual freedom is the greatest moral imperative.

I mean this in good will, figure out why you are wrong while you still can.
 
I know people have a hard time questioning their political beliefs for the sake of maintaining their own personal security in their beliefs, but they should at least look and consider that which they choose not to believe. This study concurs with the surprise the Koch brothers had when they financed a similar study.
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I know people have a hard time questioning their political beliefs for the sake of maintaining their own personal security in their beliefs, but they should at least look and consider that which they choose not to believe. This study concurs with the surprise the Koch brothers had when they financed a similar study.
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Medicare for all would save money, guys...

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Hell, if taking on the cost of something for everyone is economical, let's just take over the world. Let's stay in the middle east. Let's keep paying out foreign aid. Let's keep funding all the globalist endeavors that we partake in...to save money.

Like I always say, personally I don't have a beef with healthcare for all if it can be afforded. Right now it can't.

Clean out about a couple trillion dollars a year worth of expenses from the ledgers to make room for it, and then let's talk.

Don't even try to say the military. Libs have made it clear that withholding, even for a second, military spending abroad is an impeachable offense.
 
This is nonsense, as I've already explained to you multiple times you only arrive at the position you do by selective picking and choosing of facts and the false interpretation that you are morally superior to other people.

Objective and thorough anaylsis will always show, socialism kills and individual freedom is the greatest moral imperative.

I mean this in good will, figure out why you are wrong while you still can.
Individual freedom cannot be the greatest moral imperative. If it were someone's freedom to chop up hookers or set forest fires would be paramount. That's an idiotic argument.
 
Medicare for all is idiocy. But healthcare is far too expensive and there are ways to fix that. The lack of imperative to fix this is shameful for both Dems and Republicans.

Most of the people in this country between the ages of 18 and 50 need coverage for 1) routine checkups and tests and 2) prescriptions with some protection for catastrophic accidents. The fact that most people have to pay a double digit percentage of their check to cover their family for those services (and probably not even good coverage) is insane
 
Individual freedom cannot be the greatest moral imperative. If it were someone's freedom to chop up hookers or set forest fires would be paramount. That's an idiotic argument.


No, but it is not good that your mind would go to such a extreme. You have to work out fundamental errors like that first to see what is really wrong in your deeply flawed ideology.

Freedom never means freedom to inflict suffering for anyone soundly grounded in reason. Individual freedom can also be thought of as freedom from the collective, freedom from the suffering they might inflict due to flawed judgement... the same way it is freedom from the flawed judgement of say a king in his despotic rule. These are fundamental, foundational American values that should be taught better/clearer and maybe we wouldn't be experiencing this nonsense.

You'll never hear Bernie praise individual freedom, and there's a reason for that... and it's not because it's an idiotic argument.
 
Medicare for All is so goddam stupid it really isn’t even worth discussing. Anyone who looks at the billions of dollars already wasted in Medicare, the cluster**** that is Obamacare, the waste in our defense department, the skyrocketing costs of education with poor results, etc., and thinks MORE government involvement in the health care industry will lower costs and make outcomes better needs to be removed from the gene pool.


The fact that some people can make it to adulthood and believe in the fairy tales Bernie Sanders is peddling is proof positive our education system has failed.
 
Medicare for all would save money, guys...

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...

Hell, if taking on the cost of something for everyone is economical, let's just take over the world. Let's stay in the middle east. Let's keep paying out foreign aid. Let's keep funding all the globalist endeavors that we partake in...to save money.

Like I always say, personally I don't have a beef with healthcare for all if it can be afforded. Right now it can't.

Clean out about a couple trillion dollars a year worth of expenses from the ledgers to make room for it, and then let's talk.

Don't even try to say the military. Libs have made it clear that withholding, even for a second, military spending abroad is an impeachable offense.


Still poor logic. Affordability is only part of the equation. It is a fact that government controlled healthcare for all will greatly weaken or even destroy our healthcare system. Most have no clue what this actually means. It's not a utopia as some seem to think and all will suddenly have access to healthcare. It will have the inverse effect of those that currently have it will struggle to keep it and those that dont will continue to not.
 
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And remember, just a few short years ago, the Democrats ramrodded Obamacare up the country’s ass under the guise of “healthcare reform”.

At the time everyone with a single bit of sense said it was going to fail, but it was the governments next step toward a single payer health care system.

Here we are. A dismal failure of a law, some unbelievable Supreme Court precedent, and Democrat candidates campaigning on single payer.
 
No, but it is not good that your mind would go to such a extreme. You have to work out fundamental errors like that first to see what is really wrong in your deeply flawed ideology.

Freedom never means freedom to inflict suffering for anyone soundly grounded in reason. Individual freedom can also be thought of as freedom from the collective, freedom from the suffering they might inflict due to flawed judgement... the same way it is freedom from the flawed judgement of say a king in his despotic rule. These are fundamental, foundational American values that should be taught better/clearer and maybe we wouldn't be experiencing this nonsense.

You'll never hear Bernie praise individual freedom, and there's a reason for that... and it's not because it's an idiotic argument.
The individual and the collective must be balanced. Go too far to one extreme and you have anarchy, too far to the other and there's oppression. Life is complicated and nuanced. Blindly thinking freedom = good is caveman logic.
 
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The individual and the collective must be balanced. Go too far to one extreme and you have anarchy, too far to the other and there's oppression. Life is complicated and nuanced. Blindly thinking freedom = good is caveman logic.

The individual and collective are balanced; no one is oppressed and you don't live in anarchy or a society where you have the freedoms like you thought of. The logic that places freedom as a moral virtue is leaps and bounds superior to all attempts to destroy it, both intellectually and demonstrably through history.

What you want is the freedom to force others to work for your betterment and you'll never have that here in the USA... and if by some chance it does happen, you'll wish it didn't.

To the extent that people were or are still oppressed in our society, it has only ever been lessened in the name of advancing freedom, never in the name of freeing the oppressed for the greater good.
 
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