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DSmith21 said:
Parents have to sue to evict their 30 year old deadbeat/snowflake son (below). He reminds me of a poster on this site that constantly uses the term "wage slave."

"The couple have been trying to evict their unemployed only-son Michael for months because he refuses to pay rent or contribute in any way around the house. Michael argued in court on Tuesday that legal precedent allowed him six months notice before his parents could kick him out. The judge pointed out another case that nullified that previous decision, and called six months an 'outrageous' amount of time to ask for. Michael responded that it was 'outrageous' to evict him.

He left court frustrated, refusing to speak to his parents and saying he didn't think the judge read the case fully, according to CNY Central. He says he will appeal the decision. 'I am just so outraged,' he told DailyMail.com outside of court on Tuesday, adding that he has been taunted by conservative groups for being a 'liberal millennial'.".....

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The level of entitlement is so mind blowing. That kid’s shit should have been thrown out on the lawn long ago.
 
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How Democracies End: A Bureaucratic Whimper

It is willful blindness for progressives and NeverTrump Republicans to overlook what has happened only to damn what has not happened. The dangers in America are not from transparent right-wing authoritarians (who are easily spotted in their clumsiness), but from mellifluous self-styled constitutionalists, whose facades and professions of legality mask their rank efforts to use any anti-constitutional means necessary to achieve their supposedly noble egalitarian ends.

This is the way democracies end—not with a loud boisterous bang, but with insidious and self-righteous whimpers.
 
Now Trump is walking back the china trade deal talks because it is "too hard to get done". AKA, i made a promise to Xi to get his spy phone company back in business and congress bitch slapped me.

Republicans better not screw up this prison reform bill with a bunch of dumbass amendments as it comes out of committee. Focusing on reducing recidivism by pushing rehabilitation and reintegration is how you fix our prison population. The private prison lobby is going to dump millions into GOP pockets to try and get poison pills added on. They don't make money if prisoners aren't coming right back in.
 
Platinumdrgn said:
Now Trump is walking back the china trade deal talks because it is "too hard to get done". AKA, i made a promise to Xi to get his spy phone company back in business and congress bitch slapped me.

Republicans better not screw up this prison reform bill with a bunch of dumbass amendments as it comes out of committee. Focusing on reducing recidivism by pushing rehabilitation and reintegration is how you fix our prison population. The private prison lobby is going to dump millions into GOP pockets to try and get poison pills added on. They don't make money if prisoners aren't coming right back in.
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Who's really going to screw up the bill? And, of course, leave it to the Democrats to somehow cry discrimination.

Democrats are split on it and progressive advocacy groups are attacking it from the left.

Trying to keep the whole thing from falling apart are a bipartisan group of House members, the White House—where prison reform has been a priority for President Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner—and criminal justice groups who say some progress is better than none.

"I think unfortunately there are groups that would like to see sentencing reform happen right now and are not willing to settle for less," says Jessica Jackson Sloan, co-founder of #Cut50, a group that works to lower the U.S. prison population. "In some ways it's strategic because they helped us to make this bill as good as it can be, but at this point it's splitting the Democrat vote and we need a strong show of support to have this taken up in the Senate."

The bill has sharply divided Democrats. On one side is Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), the bill's co-sponsor, and others who say it would provide better conditions and the possibility of earlier release for the roughly 180,000 inmates serving time in federal prison.

"Any objective reading of this bill is that it will improve inmates' quality of life," Jeffries said on the House floor prior to the vote.

On the other side are Democrats who say the good provisions in the bill are outweighed by core concerns over how the overcrowded, underfunded Bureau of Prisons system would handle the new programs and changes.

In a "dear colleague" letter released last week, Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), and Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Tx.) wrote that the reforms would fail without broader sentencing reforms.

"These fundamental concerns are not simply that the FIRST STEP Act does not 'go far enough,'" the lawmakers wrote, "but instead that the recidivism reduction plan that is the core of the bill could actually worsen the situation in our federal prisons by creating discriminatory non-evidence based policies."
 
That boy seriously has a delusional disorder. Liberal/progressive activist group and Democrats have been trying to kill the prison reform bill from the very beginning, and they've only doubled down on those efforts since it passed the House, and it's mostly because of Trump and politics.

The Democratic Fight Over Prison Reform

The party is split over a Trump-backed bill that just passed the House: Should it support modest changes to the criminal-justice system or hold out for more?

Many Democrats believed that a years-long bipartisan push to overhaul the federal criminal-justice system died with the election of Donald Trump.

But Trump is now backing a component of that effort—prison reform—and the sudden viability of the issue is dividing Democrats, who are torn over whether to accept a modest step toward reducing rates of recidivism or hold out for a more comprehensive solution that’s unlikely to pass while Trump is in office.

The 360–59 vote came despite a late push against the bill from some civil-rights groups, former Attorney General Eric Holder, and a coalition of leading Senate Democrats, including Dick Durbin of Illinois, Cory Booker of New Jersey, and Kamala Harris of California. In a letterreleased last week, the senators said the measure would be “a step backwards” and that prison reform would fail if Congress did not simultaneously overhaul the nation’s sentencing laws. Also signing the letter were Representative Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and Representative John Lewis of Georgia, the civil-rights icon whose opinion is widely respected by Democrats.

The missive infuriated Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, a rising progressive voice among House Democrats. Jeffries fired off his own seven-page letter rebutting the bill’s critics point by point. “The letter, unfortunately, is riddled with factual inaccuracies and deliberately attempts to undermine the nationwide prison reform effort,” Jeffries wrote.

In an interview, Jeffries criticized what he called the “all-or-nothing approach” of the bill’s opponents and said they were unrealistic to think a broader sentencing-reform package could make it into law with Republicans in control of Congress, Trump in the White House, and Sessions atop the Justice Department. “There is no possibility of meaningful sentencing reform at this time,” Jeffries told me.

The Democratic quandary on the prison bill is a familiar one for a party out of power: Do they seize an opening to work with the administration to make incremental progress on a key priority, or wait for the chance to tackle the issue on their own terms once they take back control? It’s especially vexing for Democrats pondering a temporary alliance with Trump, a president they’ve accused of antagonizing the at-risk minority populations who would most stand to benefit from criminal-justice reform.

“The bill is a tempting half-measure, but lawmakers should resist the lure,” Holder wrote in a Monday op-ed for The Washington Post, warning that passing a narrow bill now would “derail momentum” for the broader set of changes Democrats and a coalition of Republicans have sought for years.

“We don’t want Congress to clap their hands and say they’ve fixed criminal-justice reform yet not have actually done anything to actually address the problem of mass incarceration,” said Inimai Chettiar, the director of the justice program at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice.

In a press release, the Brennan Center urged the House to reject what it called the “Trump prison bill.” But Chettiar said she would support the legislation on the merits if it were paired with a sentencing-reform bill.

Still, the dispute among Democrats is largely about strategy rather than substance, leading Jeffries to warn his colleagues that they risk losing focus on the people who would most stand to benefit from even limited congressional action. “There are thousands of people who are incarcerated right now who will be helped immediately if the First Step Act becomes law,” Jeffries said. “They don’t care about politics. They need the help, and they need the help now.”

The mounting opposition in the Senate, however, had little effect on lawmakers in the House. Nearly all Republicans heeded Trump’s call to support the First Step Act, and more than two-thirds of House Democrats sided with Jeffries in ignoring the pleas from their colleagues in the Senate to oppose it. Before the vote, the New York congressman suggested that Durbin, Booker, and Harris—all stalwart allies of his in the progressive movement—stick to their side of the Capitol. “If you don’t like the bill, kill it in your chamber,” Jeffries said. “Or,” he added, “improve it.”
 
If you dont like Christians or R's it makes for better target practice for the dumbass lib's . At least in their reality . ( to label The Donald a Christian )
 
moe_schmoe said:
That boy seriously has a delusional disorder. Liberal/progressive activist group and Democrats have been trying to kill the prison reform bill from the very beginning, and they've only doubled down on those efforts since it passed the House, and it's mostly because of Trump and politics.

The Democratic Fight Over Prison Reform

The party is split over a Trump-backed bill that just passed the House: Should it support modest changes to the criminal-justice system or hold out for more?

Many Democrats believed that a years-long bipartisan push to overhaul the federal criminal-justice system died with the election of Donald Trump.

But Trump is now backing a component of that effort—prison reform—and the sudden viability of the issue is dividing Democrats, who are torn over whether to accept a modest step toward reducing rates of recidivism or hold out for a more comprehensive solution that’s unlikely to pass while Trump is in office.

The 360–59 vote came despite a late push against the bill from some civil-rights groups, former Attorney General Eric Holder, and a coalition of leading Senate Democrats, including Dick Durbin of Illinois, Cory Booker of New Jersey, and Kamala Harris of California. In a letterreleased last week, the senators said the measure would be “a step backwards” and that prison reform would fail if Congress did not simultaneously overhaul the nation’s sentencing laws. Also signing the letter were Representative Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and Representative John Lewis of Georgia, the civil-rights icon whose opinion is widely respected by Democrats.

The missive infuriated Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, a rising progressive voice among House Democrats. Jeffries fired off his own seven-page letter rebutting the bill’s critics point by point. “The letter, unfortunately, is riddled with factual inaccuracies and deliberately attempts to undermine the nationwide prison reform effort,” Jeffries wrote.

In an interview, Jeffries criticized what he called the “all-or-nothing approach” of the bill’s opponents and said they were unrealistic to think a broader sentencing-reform package could make it into law with Republicans in control of Congress, Trump in the White House, and Sessions atop the Justice Department. “There is no possibility of meaningful sentencing reform at this time,” Jeffries told me.

The Democratic quandary on the prison bill is a familiar one for a party out of power: Do they seize an opening to work with the administration to make incremental progress on a key priority, or wait for the chance to tackle the issue on their own terms once they take back control? It’s especially vexing for Democrats pondering a temporary alliance with Trump, a president they’ve accused of antagonizing the at-risk minority populations who would most stand to benefit from criminal-justice reform.

“The bill is a tempting half-measure, but lawmakers should resist the lure,” Holder wrote in a Monday op-ed for The Washington Post, warning that passing a narrow bill now would “derail momentum” for the broader set of changes Democrats and a coalition of Republicans have sought for years.

“We don’t want Congress to clap their hands and say they’ve fixed criminal-justice reform yet not have actually done anything to actually address the problem of mass incarceration,” said Inimai Chettiar, the director of the justice program at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice.

In a press release, the Brennan Center urged the House to reject what it called the “Trump prison bill.” But Chettiar said she would support the legislation on the merits if it were paired with a sentencing-reform bill.

Still, the dispute among Democrats is largely about strategy rather than substance, leading Jeffries to warn his colleagues that they risk losing focus on the people who would most stand to benefit from even limited congressional action. “There are thousands of people who are incarcerated right now who will be helped immediately if the First Step Act becomes law,” Jeffries said. “They don’t care about politics. They need the help, and they need the help now.”

The mounting opposition in the Senate, however, had little effect on lawmakers in the House. Nearly all Republicans heeded Trump’s call to support the First Step Act, and more than two-thirds of House Democrats sided with Jeffries in ignoring the pleas from their colleagues in the Senate to oppose it. Before the vote, the New York congressman suggested that Durbin, Booker, and Harris—all stalwart allies of his in the progressive movement—stick to their side of the Capitol. “If you don’t like the bill, kill it in your chamber,” Jeffries said. “Or,” he added, “improve it.”
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ya you got some whiners in the senate not happy because Trump isn't willing to pass anything that touches sentencing reform, he actually believes in maximum punishment at all times. Overhauling the courts is important so we stop wasting so much resources throwing the book at nothing crimes. They are also upset because Trump will claim credit for something he had no part in, they started working on this 4 years ago. But as long as senate republicans don't screw with the bill pushed through the house, it will pass easily. Its only a tiny part of what has been worked on but at least its a start.
 
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They are also upset because Trump will claim credit for something he had no part in
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He played a huge part in it. Obama couldn't get it done. Kushner, Trump's golden boy, came through. Democrats can't stand the thought of it.

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But as long as senate republicans don't screw with the bill pushed through the house
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Except it's the Democrats threatening to screw it up. Again, you have a serious delusional disorder.
 
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https://www.infowars.com/left-wing-...raising-taxes-on-poor-people-is-a-good-thing/

IMO this guy is second only to George Soros on the evil billionaire list.

Some on here may or may not know that he's also partially responsible for the shutter of Big Sandy Power Plant in Ashland, KY. At the time he was mayor of New York City and New York City purchased some of it's electricity for it's power grid from Big Sandy. Bloomberg threatened to stop doing business with the power plant unless it converted to Natural Gas. Needless to say he got what he wanted. The plant was closed and relocated to Ohio where it now uses natural gas.

He takes personal responsibility for helping close numerous coal fire plants across the nation.
 
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Lol, the opponents of the bill are calling it the "trump prison bill".. and the first part of the article it said

Many Democrats believed that a years-long bipartisan push to overhaul the federal criminal-justice system died with the election of Donald Trump.

But Trump is now backing a component of that effort—prison reform—and the sudden viability of the issue is dividing Democrats, who are torn over whether to accept a modest step toward reducing rates of recidivism or hold out for a more comprehensivesolution that’s unlikely to pass while Trump is in office.




But by god, platinumdouche says he has absolutely nothing to do with it. Why didnt it get done 8 years ago, platinumdouche?
 
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moe_schmoe said:
Even if her husband will stone her for infidelity?
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If someone commits violence, prosecute them for it. Can't let our lives be dictated by millenia old superstition. Would have been nice if someone had stoned Kim Davis. She even had 3 husbands for thrice the stoning.
 
Dionysus444 said:
I don't see why not. Do your job or get fired. If you have a moral objection to your work, find somewhere else to work.
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Is she going to fire herself?

Are you that dumb? You cant use your few brain cells to realize we arent talking about employees doing their job? Were talking about business owners.

Fricken idiocy amongst the left.
 
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PhattyJ4UK said:
Is she going to fire herself?

Are you that dumb? You cant use your few brain cells to realize we arent talking about employees doing their job? Were talking about business owners.

Fricken idiocy amongst the left.
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Read the article before you call others dumb. "Employee of a salon"
 
Dionysus444 said:
Would have been nice if someone had stoned Kim Davis. She even had 3 husbands for thrice the stoning.
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You're conflating. Christians don't stone their wives, do they? That's reserved for our Muslim neighbors.

Also, didn't she ultimately get the last laugh? Spent a week in jail, like a boss, without even breaking a sweat. Then, here recently, that ghey ran for her seat with one goal in mind -- to challenge her and unseat her. He didn't even make it out of the primary. Let me guess, though? Only because of all of those homophobes in Kentucky, right?
 
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