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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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  • Poll closed .
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When the leadership in Ukraine pushed forward an Association Agreement with the European Union starting in late 2012 (a key time for American "diplomacy" and involvement in Ukraine as well), they were essentially wedging their foot in the door to join NATO. It would have been inevitable at that point had the Agreement been signed. It was not signed in 2013, and not long after the preparations for war began, based on US assurances of involvement and financial support down the road.

Massive money began exchanging hands between the Biden family and oligarchs and govts in China, Russia, Romania, and Ukraine in 2014. At the same time destabilization began in Donbas. The media funding, as it turns out, began at this same time, and the Ukrainian govt began shelling Donbas when that region claimed independence from the Ukrainian govt over a recent history of govt abuse and lack of representation.

When the entire body of work is looked at, this war was initiated by many parties over the next 7 years. Oligarchs and intelligence agencies in Russia, Ukraine, China, the US, and other countries were all involved, but the Biden family and USAID were the funnels through which the giant shell game of money laundering and influence changed hands.

If the Biden administration and the Ukrainian govt had been willing to do so, the war could have been averted through negotiations. It doesn't seem that was ever the plan, because NATO and the EU need Ukraine to join them. The EU is struggling because it has no resources and is dependent on trade with other countries, as it has lost influence (control of and in) many countries around the world that provided resources to them at a seriously under-market value.

It can't sustain itself without Southeast Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, and for that reason is being overrun with people from those regions, as even the US is dealing with. Rather than trying to fix the systems, they have pushed for more control of the populations, and have so far been very successful.

If USAID money wasn't pushed into Ukraine, there would have been no war.

Ukraine couldn't defend itself against Russia and the Donbas region would have become independent. A liberated Donbas is not in anyone's best interests. Not Russian, Ukrainian, nor the EU. Internationally, freedom is not in the interests of our Intel agencies nor the Dem party. There's no insane profits to be fraudulently obtained. There's no way to keep wages in developing countries artificially low.

The bottom line in all of this, however, is that Ukraine could've stopped there from being any conflict. So could the Biden regime. So could the EU. So could NATO. Russia was not going to allow Donbas to be shelled, nor allow NATO to breach the long held agreement of not setting up shop on their border.

The truth IS that an Independent Donbas WOULD most likely have allowed Ukraine to join NATO. So why not allow their independence?
 
I guess we'll find out Tuesday morning.......



Would like to see the date on that post. Every Fed received the email. (Not this one but to what it is alluding too.) Can tell you many agencies have told their employees to wait for further guidance from agency leadership. (Amazed this was posted so quickly on a Saturday or a Sunday.)

Also, like how "they" used the word "obligated" to have that as an out when it comes to any blame for not complying.)
 
Says the maniacal dumbass party saying Ukraine started the war in Ukraine, purging the US military and laying off nuclear inspectors. Nut jobs
Your geriatric DNC Fuhrer involuntarily discharged over 8000 troops for refusing his experimental shot mandate. Many of them experienced combat vets who cannot be easily replaced.
But lord forbid some fat bureaucratic crossdressing political hack desk jockey at the Pentagon be relieved of command. Then you lose what's left of your hypocritical microcephalic mind.
 
The majority of America's against that. We aren't going door to door to round up and deport all the people already here. It's never happening.
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When the leadership in Ukraine pushed forward an ....

The truth IS that an Independent Donbas WOULD most likely have allowed Ukraine to join NATO. So why not allow their independence?

This all just so happened to start the year following Syria turning over its chemical weapons, to the UN's OPCW through signing on to the CWC agreement, the bulk of which were delivered to facilities in Ukraine in 2013.
 
So Musk's boys, the AfD, came in second in the German elections today. Whether the leading conservatives will work with them remains to be seen. Conservatives can reach majority with the ousted lefties.
 
The bottom line in all of this, however, is that Ukraine could've stopped there from being any conflict. So could the Biden regime. So could the EU. So could NATO.
So why leave the #1 person/country that could have stopped it by not starting it? Very apologetic take as written. That's the true bottom line.
 
Your geriatric DNC Fuhrer involuntarily discharged over 8000 troops for refusing his experimental shot mandate. Many of them experienced combat vets who cannot be easily replaced.
But lord forbid some fat bureaucratic crossdressing political hack desk jockey at the Pentagon be relieved of command. Then you lose what's left of your hypocritical microcephalic mind.
They chose during Biden.
Trump chose during his regime.
You may not know this but the Commander in Chief is in charge of military policies.
If Trump wants a change in direction he can change the policies ... Not the people.
If the people refuse to carry out his orders then that's the time to reevaluate personnel.
Trump sucks.
 
So Musk's boys, the AfD, came in second in the German elections today. Whether the leading conservatives will work with them remains to be seen. Conservatives can reach majority with the ousted lefties.

No chance of winning an election in Germany this time around. They had years of social media censorship combined with actually arresting people for social media posts.

Going to take alot of work to free Europe. Usaid had that region under lock and key; and we were next had elon not bought Twitter.
 
So why leave the #1 person/country that could have stopped it by not starting it? Very apologetic take as written. That's the true bottom line.

My goodness you're a buffoon, shamstain. And, yes, I know you're using a different handle, but the disingenuous stupidity here is as deep as shamstain shovels it. NO COUNTRY is going to let their known enemy set up shop on their doorstep, you abject moron, and EVEN IDIOTS like yourself should acknowledge that. (I directly acknowledged the Russian role in this.)

NATO, the US, the EU, and Ukraine PROVOKED the conflict. End of story. They tried to make Ukraine a NATO member after (as a group) agreeing to never move NATO east. Russia is an enemy you don't fk with. They are not trading competitors like Canada and Mexico. They are flat out ENEMIES. NATO membership for Ukraine is a missile silo aimed at Russia.

If you take a gun to Ukraine and aim it at Russia, YOU provoked the attack. Bomb civilians in a region of people that were once Russian citizens and refuse to stop on threat of invasion? Yep. You provoked the attack.

You're probably one of those idiots that think sending rockets into Israel isn't provocation...

...that taking a gun into a convenient store and threatening the clerk isn't grounds for being shot...

...that coming across the border doesn't make you a criminal, when you know full well you're entering illegally.

Congratulations on joining the VI ranks. Back to ignore...

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And to top all of it off, you hypocritically "LOVE" a nit picking post that essentially says the same thing I said. You're too much of a dumask to even help yourself out. Arguing just to argue
 
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You voted for Biden. What would you know about the right approach?
No US troops involved wars.
Weakened and depleted Russian military. Isolated Putin.
Smashed Hamas to pieces. Flattened Gaza.
401Ks thru the roof.
Booming stocks.
Booming GDP.
No major terror 9/11 level attacks on the homeland.
Low unemployment.

I'll take that over Trump's insane chaos all day and every day.

Bring Back Biden!!
 
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