Gotta agree with Walz here.
Imagine having the questions ahead of time and still being this awful. Walz must've really been cozying up to the right chinese officials on his plethora of trips there.
Gotta agree with Walz here.
Agree. Supply and demand. You and I both mentioned as much in other related posts.Lol reading these ap fact checks. One said vance incorrectly linked rising home costs to "immigrants" when its actually low housing inventory.
Lmao why is there low housing inventory? Such bs biased msm as usual.
Looks more like thisLooks like a grouper that's been asked how many fingers he's got
They "gots" that Adam Schiff "thang" going on... Got the eyes wide open, I am NOT lying look...)
Hint... They are lying...
So you think the 2020 election was on the up and up and Biden really beat Trump with 81 milly votes? K.Well, Trump may be the rare person who feels the need to “pull that off.” That is a meaningless move that may excite the sycophant, but holds no other productive purpose. Being presidential matters. It is a flaw of Trump that he is not. The fact he is not is the main reason why this race is close. He would have never lost to Joe Biden if he was presidential.
Think about that. We would not have suffered through the past four pathetic years if Trump was presidential.
I think the VP debate last night represents better the state of public opinion than the Presidential debate did. There is more agreement and in common on most issues than you hear from the more extreme members from both parties.Skipping ahead,
Solar energy sucks.
Wind energy sucks
Even though I strongly criticize solar for used panel toxicity and wind for blade disposition, I generally support both platforms as alternative energy sources. Same for hydro-power, geothermal and other sources.
I'll catch hell for what I'm about to state, but in my opinion, true conservatism focuses on resource conservation. We have one world. We should take care of it. I feel USA, under various regimes, is a decent environmental steward, but can do better. China really needs to get on board. Good luck convincing Beijing.
Sorry....this makes zero sense and I completely disagree. Moving on.
He is. But it's pretty easy to be such. Trump is so easily knocked off point or even just goes there. It's the chaos that concerns me constantly.
He didn’t lose to Joe Biden, he was stripped of his presidency through Democratic tactics. He was right to call it out and fight for it despite how some thinks it made him look. He is exposing our government for all to see, you either want to it or you don’t.Well, Trump may be the rare person who feels the need to “pull that off.” That is a meaningless move that may excite the sycophant, but holds no other productive purpose. Being presidential matters. It is a flaw of Trump that he is not. The fact he is not is the main reason why this race is close. He would have never lost to Joe Biden if he was presidential.
Think about that. We would not have suffered through the past four pathetic years if Trump was presidential.
I think the VP debate last night represents better the state of public opinion than the Presidential debate did. There is more agreement and in common on most issues than you hear from the more extreme members from both parties.
They both run on division instead of running to get sh** done for the American people.
Hell, I think the mainstream Pubs and Dems are closer than they've ever been on immigration, housing, energy production, police/military and crime.
The fringe might talk different but not the mainstream in either party.
The Democrat mayor of Louisville is calling for the crushing of any vehicle caught street racing right now.
Kamala knows she can't win Dems Or independents without being mainstream on the border, crime and energy production (fracking).
Trump is NOT a conservative and is divisive as hell..... Kamala is a left wing liberal in moderate sheep's clothing. Neither is my first choice.
I do think our system of checks and balances can contain most anything kooky Kamala would try. The same can't be said for Trump this round. He's learned from last time to surround himself completely with yes men, suck ups and loyalists. That's bad for America.
That's why I can't support him.
Lol reading these ap fact checks. One said vance incorrectly linked rising home costs to "immigrants" when its actually low housing inventory.
Lmao why is there low housing inventory? Such bs biased msm as usual.
So you think the 2020 election was on the up and up and Biden really beat Trump with 81 milly votes? K.
He didn’t lose to Joe Biden, he was stripped of his presidency through Democratic tactics. He was right to call it out and fight for it despite how some thinks it made him look. He is exposing our government for all to see, you either want to it or you don’t.
Pretty fair assessment. JD was smooth and Walz was a little shaky at times. I think JD is also just a better debater and liar than Walz.Wall Street Journal on last night's debate.
Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance spoke confidently and clearly, while Democrat Tim Walz had a tougher time finding his footing at what’s expected to be the last debate between the two camps before Election Day.
I think the VP debate last night represents better the state of public opinion than the Presidential debate did. There is more agreement and in common on most issues than you hear from the more extreme members from both parties.
They both run on division instead of running to get sh** done for the American people.
Hell, I think the mainstream Pubs and Dems are closer than they've ever been on immigration, housing, energy production, police/military and crime.
The fringe might talk different but not the mainstream in either party.
The Democrat mayor of Louisville is calling for the crushing of any vehicle caught street racing right now.
Kamala knows she can't win Dems Or independents without being mainstream on the border, crime and energy production (fracking).
Trump is NOT a conservative and is divisive as hell..... Kamala is a left wing liberal in moderate sheep's clothing. Neither is my first choice.
I do think our system of checks and balances can contain most anything kooky Kamala would try. The same can't be said for Trump this round. He's learned from last time to surround himself completely with yes men, suck ups and loyalists. That's bad for America.
That's why I can't support him.
Pretty fair assessment. JD was smooth and Walz was a little shaky at times. I think JD is also just a better debater and liar than Walz.
JD saying Trump saved Obamacare is flat out laughable. He tried to kill it repeatedly and would have if not for John McCain. But JD sounded good lying about it.
Walz sounded like an idiot defending his China trips and they never called him out on his military fabrications.
They are both liars.
JD is just better at it.
That said, I think JD is making a mistake if he becomes a Trump chump. He is very intelligent and could be a potential Presidential candidate with his political skills.
The best thing that could happen to him is to lose this election before becoming too tainted from Trump and run again as a mainstream Republican 4 years from now.
MAGA is just too extreme and divisive to run the national government imo.
I'd say JD won on points with his style and debate skills....But Walz sent Vance to the floor and a standing 8 count with his Jan 6th roundhouse punch.What a long winded way of saying "Our guy lost last night".
These kinds of replies make it real hard to have substantive debate on this forum.Another stupid analysis. If Trump/Vance lose this election, there will never be another R president. And the Harris DOJ will likely bankrupt Vance as retribution for joining the Trump ticket.
Ditto my last responseThere’s no middle ground here
Kamala was installed by democrat shadow operators after they removed Biden from the ticket after having propped him up as their mentally incompetent puppet for years. She’s never received any support from voters in any federal election. Refuses to do any interviews or sit with any media personalities that aren’t already in the bag. And picked a VP candidate who is shockingly less competent than her yet still able to function without a feeding tube.
Yet you’re concerned with Trump who has the entire power of the Harris DOJ going after him, has had prominent democrats join on his ticket even though they still openly criticize him, sits with any and all media outlets for open conversations and picked a VP candidate who was and has been critical of him.
You are an insane person if you aren’t being paid by democrats to post shit that’s so dumb.
I'd say JD won on points with his style and debate skills....But Walz sent Vance to the floor and a standing 8 count with his Jan 6th roundhouse punch.
At the end of the day the needle wasn't really moved by this debate imo.
I’m just flabbergasted that you think trump not being presidential is what cost him the election and not the massive voter fraud. Maybe you don’t think there was any fraud. Which is fine, just wrong.Throwing out 81 million votes is a good start, but weak evidence alone to make the point you are attempting.
These kinds of replies make it real hard to have substantive debate on this forum.
I’m just flabbergasted that you think trump not being presidential is what cost him the election and not the massive voter fraud. Maybe you don’t think there was any fraud. Which is fine, just wrong.
You’re kidding right?Not really. Very calm, well spoken, but refused or couldn't answer some damning questions. For the easily fooled, Vance pulled Trump closer.
I think not being presidential/typical politician wins him more votes than what he loses from it. And the reason he lost 2020 was due to massive voter fraud.I guess we agree that Trump is not presidential, but disagree that it was the reason Biden, the pathological liar who was long said to never have a shot at the presidency and who could not maintain a coherent thought, beat him. I am okay with our disagreement and my position therein.
And, “any fraud” and decisive fraud are two different things.
Hell, I think the mainstream Pubs and Dems are closer than they've ever been on immigration, housing, energy production, police/military and crime.
You're just wrong.You would be incorrect. If that was the case, then you wouldn't see Kamala still have a chance in this race despite 3 yrs of ailed policies on the issues you listed. The left is more left than ever in my lifetime on all of those issues.
Except for the thousands (?) who are still in jail or have been bankrupted by bogus charges.Jan 6th lol. An event almost half a decade ago that has literally no affect on anyone today.
Wall Street Journal on last night's debate.
Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance spoke confidently and clearly, while Democrat Tim Walz had a tougher time finding his footing at what’s expected to be the last debate between the two camps before Election Day.