I wouldn’t trust any of the secret service now as that sounds like an inside job.
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How long until Sam Hyde is identified as the shooter LOL
It's Michigan, the Governor probably allowed it
RFK Jr has the decency to call it out. Spineless bastard Biden, nothing. Blood on his hands.
Yes he's extremely lucky to be alive.
Let's see if this shooter had his gun legally, first. YOU VILLAGE IDIOT.
Nope. Just restrict them from the mentally ill. My money is on mentally ill or a history of lunacy with the shooter.
Thoughts n prayers are not working
Thoughts and prayers.
WHI SUPREMASISES are supposedly the biggest threat to domestic terrorism in our country. Conservatives are targeted as domestic terrorists by the DOJ. Yet here we once again have Antifa violence and terrorism and they skate. Antifa is by far the biggest domestic terrorism threat.
I've volunteered to fight them, one at a time, in the Parking Lot at O'Neills Pub LOL
And, I've said that because I'm 61 it would be a fair fight. Hahaha
You know mentally ill people don't commit shootings the most, right? They're actually more likely to be victims.
It’s tempting to say gun violence is about mental illness. The truth is much more complex.
Focusing on mental illness as the cause of mass shootings diverts attention from the larger problem of gun violence in the U.S., two experts argue.
It's not mental illness.
Mental illness is quite common in the United States. In 2020, approximately 20% of U.S. adults — 53 million people — met criteria for at least one psychiatric diagnosis in the previous year, and nearly 6% — 14 million individuals — had a serious, impairing mental illness such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or major depression. Given that so many individuals have a mental health diagnosis and the large majority of those individuals are never violent, psychiatric illness is too blunt an instrument to serve as a useful indicator of violence risk.
Indeed, if serious mental illnesses suddenly disappeared, violence would decrease by only about 4%. More than 90% of violent incidents, including homicides, would still occur.
Even mass shooters, who might seem most likely to be driven by mental illness, don’t necessarily suffer from major psychiatric disorders. Arguably one of the best such reports on the topic, conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, found that only 25% of such assailants had a diagnosed mental illness. Although it is difficult to obtain precise data on the gun-prohibited status of every mass shooter, less than 5% of these individuals had a record of a gun-disqualifying mental health adjudication, such as an involuntary commitment to a mental health facility.
That guy looks nothing like the person the police had in handcuffs. Unless he spent the last 6 months in a tanning booth.Shooter idenfitifed as Richard Saunders. Aka the Ghost of Kyiv
Is this tough guy pregnant?Shooter idenfitifed as Richard Saunders. Aka the Ghost of Kyiv
Trump shoving it up the libtards asses tonight. Love it and not even a Trumo guy.
Trump going to take an even bigger poll lead after this.
Trump going to take an even bigger poll lead after this.
The plan was to imprison him on Thursday
The Supreme Court interfered with that
It’s too late for Biden to quit.
So, this is the plan it appears
The Supreme Court interfered with that
It’s too late for Biden to quit.
So, this is the plan it appears
I'm curious to see what Bongino says on his podcast on Monday. I bet there was a SS screw up somewhere.
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You’re getting way too easy to get a rise out of Trotsky.
Trump needs to absolutely stay out of certain States. The powers that be in those States have the same mindset as the liberals in here.
It’s that attitude exactly that makes a third party vote a wasted vote.
What about mass shootings or politically motivated shootings? Bet that has different stats.You know mentally ill people don't commit shootings the most, right? They're actually more likely to be victims.
It’s tempting to say gun violence is about mental illness. The truth is much more complex.
Focusing on mental illness as the cause of mass shootings diverts attention from the larger problem of gun violence in the U.S., two experts argue.www.aamc.org
It's not mental illness.
Mental illness is quite common in the United States. In 2020, approximately 20% of U.S. adults — 53 million people — met criteria for at least one psychiatric diagnosis in the previous year, and nearly 6% — 14 million individuals — had a serious, impairing mental illness such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, or major depression. Given that so many individuals have a mental health diagnosis and the large majority of those individuals are never violent, psychiatric illness is too blunt an instrument to serve as a useful indicator of violence risk.
Indeed, if serious mental illnesses suddenly disappeared, violence would decrease by only about 4%. More than 90% of violent incidents, including homicides, would still occur.
Even mass shooters, who might seem most likely to be driven by mental illness, don’t necessarily suffer from major psychiatric disorders. Arguably one of the best such reports on the topic, conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, found that only 25% of such assailants had a diagnosed mental illness. Although it is difficult to obtain precise data on the gun-prohibited status of every mass shooter, less than 5% of these individuals had a record of a gun-disqualifying mental health adjudication, such as an involuntary commitment to a mental health facility.
Yeah, and an idiot in an earlier post talking about Sandy Hook is anti-gun but has an avatar with a man that he seems to idolize wielding a gun. Irony or stupidity? Both.
Nope.
Mass shootings by people with serious mental illness represent lessthan 1% of all yearly gun-related homicides. In contrast, deaths bysuicide using firearms account for the majority of yearly gun-relateddeaths. The overall contribution of people with serious mental illness to violent crimes is only about 3%. When these crimes are examined in detail, an even smaller percentage of them are found to involve firearms.Copyright © 2016 American Psychiatric Association Publishing. All Rights Reserved.To purchase the complete resource, please visit www.appi.org or your local bookseller.82 GUN VIOLENCE AND MENTAL ILLNESS Laws intended to reduce gun violence that focus on a population representing less than 3% of all gun violence will be extremely low yield,ineffective, and wasteful of scarce resources. Perpetrators of massshootings are unlikely to have a history of involuntary psychiatric hospitalization. Thus, databases intended to restrict access to guns andestablished by guns laws that broadly target people with mental illness will not capture this group of individuals. Gun restriction laws focusing on people with mental illness perpetuate the myth that mental illness leads to violence, as well as the misperception that gun violence and mental illness are strongly linked.Stigma represents a major barrier to access and treatment of mentalillness, which in turn increases the public health burden.
Yes, says a sand flea from the middle east. Icon my butt. Maybe on Apprentice.
Biden admin refusing to give RFK secret service protection, then the secret service almost lets Trump’s head get blown off on live TV.
Obviously the agents who protected him with their bodies are heroes. But heads need to roll throughout the Biden admin for letting this happen.
This is a running joke.
Discount covid. otherwise bullshit.
Does congress control the purse? I'm really not having your BS right now. You almost got exactly what you wanted.
Coming from a liberal jester does not really help.
I don't know how many of you have ever been around the secret service and the president, but you got to be a damn moron. You are committing suicide.
A friend of mine who was at the rally was telling me this. The shooter according to him was not in the actual rally.
Agree to disagree on this. Truth be told... I don't want to see Trump or anyone else hurt or killed by gun violence.
Just want mentally ill people to be restricted from gun ownership.
That you took it that way is the least suprising thing in this thread.
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