Over 16,000 pages and not one change of opinions by either side. Lesson in futility.
I’d say it’s eff around with Mossad and find out.Good riddance. Hope it was Iranian incompetency and not another regional escalation, but either way the world is better without him.
Agreed. But one side waves the American flag and loves the constitution. The other side waves Palestinian flags, Lgbtiqa+ flags, Communist flags, Anarchist flags, and hate the constitution and want to subvert it every day.
Sure some of the judicial charges against him right now are to make his life miserable. But Jan 6th was ALL on Trump.It only makes sense if you stole an election.
Half the country thinks it was including the guy who will be trying to run again next chance he gets and likely be looking for justice. Do you honestly think all the reasons behind trying to lock him up now is because (out of all the politicians), he’s the only “bad” guy?
I refuse to believe even liberals can’t see it for what it is.
That excuse started way before Flip Wilson buddy.Quoting Flip Wilson? Actually not that old.
Sure some of the judicial charges against him right now are to make his life miserable. But Jan 6th was ALL on Trump.
I thought you were anti-war?
Not saying that he is innocent of all the charges because he's not.Glad you admitted as much.
So the same people weaponizing the judicial system against their political opponent wouldn’t orchestrate a psyop to damage the man as well?
If you believe your first statement, then logically you’d have to admit it’s not out of the realm of possibilities.
And yes, lots of idiots did some dumb stuff on that day as well.
Sad Cold War BS. Does cheering carpet bombing make you feel strong, clown?
Not saying that he is innocent of all the charges because he's not.
All I'm saying is that if he wasn't such a POS and a clear and present danger to our nation, the powers that be probably would have let a sleeping dog lie.
Name one other President in the history of the United States besides Trump that held a rally resulting in his crowd attacking the US Capitol. And I'm the fascist??Jesus, you are a fascist sick person ate tf up with TDS. Maybe worse than NetCat.
Because we don't use them anymore. We're dumping all our old surplus munitions on them. Ukraine and Russia had both been firing cluster munitions at each other the whole war before that, why do you care?Who knows. Your president authorized cluster bomb usage outside of norms. Explain that one. And why you'll vote for him again, Mr. IDEALIST
If I say it one more time....you will finally comprehend.Over 16,000 pages and not one change of opinions by either side. Lesson in futility.
Not saying that he is innocent of all the charges because he's not.
All I'm saying is that if he wasn't such a POS and a clear and present danger to our nation, the powers that be probably would have let a sleeping dog lie.
Some of the charges are a stretch (porn star hush money/Exaggerating his assets)
While others like the election interference and fake elector charges are spot on.
Do I trust our government is always out for us and providing honest answers about everything? Hell no.
Look no further than the many stories of experiments like the non treatment of syphilis on blacks at Tuskegee.
Our government has a history of lying to the American people.
But here is where I differ with you. Why the hell would the FBI take the time and effort to plant people in a pro Trump crowd to try and create a violent riot that stopped the official certification of Joe Biden as President???
He'd already officially been declared the winner.
So were the FBI agents Anti Biden? Were they working for Trump to try and overturn the electoral college vote in order to make Trump President? If so, then it absolutely was an insurrection attempt.
If they weren't pro Trump and were working on Joe Biden's behalf....wtf would they want to stop or slow down the electoral college certification that made Joe Biden officially President?
So if your theory is correct....either it WAS an insurrection attempt by Trump friendly FBI agents or it was an attempt to stop Biden from being declared President by Biden friendly FBI agents...That.Makes.Zero. Sense. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Either way, your rationale and logic for this tin foil hat theory MAKES ZERO LOGICAL SENSE unless you can prove it was an insurrection attempt by the FBI on Trump's behalf.
See just the other day we were jovially swapping stories about drug misadventures and now you hate me passionately. All because you're awash in silly nationalistic fervor and I'm not. All these imaginary lines on the map do is divide people, just like they're doing now between you and me. If you want to love and believe in something it should be the lofty ideals we were founded on, not just #America®.
Look...if he had lost the last election, conceded like he should have and come back to run again....more power to him.Or maybe, just maybe he’s a clear and present danger to those powers that be. Current events tend to make a lot more sense from this perspective.
I have a hard time believing the powers that be are out there doing the Lords work trying to end a man just because he’s a POS. DC is full of them.
You obviously have a worm issue like Kennedy.How in the world can you write this, after you were the BRANCH COVIDIAN of all the CORONABROS on here?
You disgust me.
How? Genuinely curious, not being a contrarian. What threat does Trump pose?Or maybe, just maybe he’s a clear and present danger to those powers that be.
How? Genuinely curious, not being a contrarian. What threat does Trump pose?
Name one other President in the history of the United States besides Trump that held a rally resulting in his crowd attacking the US Capitol. And I'm the fascist??
If Trump is the only name you can come up with....you may need to rethink your allegiance to the Inciter in Chief.
That action disqualified him forever in the minds of many Americans.
On a purely logical basis, how is that not clear to all??
Because we don't use them anymore. We're dumping all our old surplus munitions on them. Ukraine and Russia had both been firing cluster munitions at each other the whole war before that, why do you care?
Because we don't use them anymore. We're dumping all our old surplus munitions on them. Ukraine and Russia had both been firing cluster munitions at each other the whole war before that, why do you care?
You posted about it in the political thread. I'm pretty sure that isn't me making it political. Like I already said, we had already started the back-and-forth when you edited your regret for that into another post. You should have left it there as the instigator, but you wanted the last word. So be it.You turned thanking Vietnam war veterans, regardless of how you feel about the war into a political pissing match.
Those people we were honoring were just kids when they were sent over there. Most didn't have a choice, many didn't return, and a majority of combat vets had their lives damaged in ways that still haunt them today.
They didn't start that stupid war. And when they got home, their country threw them on the scrap heap. What possible problem could you have for acknowleding the sacrifices they had to make?
Most of those guys probably hadn't even had the chance to VOTE when they got drafted. This is NOT a political/jingoistic/MAGA pro war thing. It takes no money from the government, it's all privately funded. It's REALLY about trying to make up for how badly they were treated by not only their government, but by society in general. I cannot fathom anyone having a problem with, or criticizing it.
You haven't attended one, and yet you're perfectly fine with judging it from your high horse. I find your attitude towards it appalling and offensive. You have no idea what it means to the families or the men that were sent over to someplace they didn't want to go to, for reasons they didn't understand, and then be cast aside and derided when they got back.
I didn't see a single MAGA hat, political sign, protest, or politician there. It was just about saying thanks, and sorry for how you were treated/mistreated.
You're attitude is callous and ignorant IMO. And for what? Does it really bother you that their day was brightened, so much so that you have to deride it and mischaracterize it as political brainwashing? I'm sure, in person, we'd get along, and I don't mind the political sparring etc. but I think you were out of line on this one.
I've said my peace.
You turned thanking Vietnam war veterans, regardless of how you feel about the war into a political pissing match.
Those people we were honoring were just kids when they were sent over there. Most didn't have a choice, many didn't return, and a majority of combat vets had their lives damaged in ways that still haunt them today.
They didn't start that stupid war. And when they got home, their country threw them on the scrap heap. What possible problem could you have for acknowleding the sacrifices they had to make?
Most of those guys probably hadn't even had the chance to VOTE when they got drafted. This is NOT a political/jingoistic/MAGA pro war thing. It takes no money from the government, it's all privately funded. It's REALLY about trying to make up for how badly they were treated by not only their government, but by society in general. I cannot fathom anyone having a problem with, or criticizing it.
You haven't attended one, and yet you're perfectly fine with judging it from your high horse. I find your attitude towards it appalling and offensive. You have no idea what it means to the families or the men that were sent over to someplace they didn't want to go to, for reasons they didn't understand, and then be cast aside and derided when they got back.
I didn't see a single MAGA hat, political sign, protest, or politician there. It was just about saying thanks, and sorry for how you were treated/mistreated.
You're attitude is callous and ignorant IMO. And for what? Does it really bother you that their day was brightened, so much so that you have to deride it and mischaracterize it as political brainwashing? I'm sure, in person, we'd get along, and I don't mind the political sparring etc. but I think you were out of line on this one.
I've said my peace.
You obviously have a worm issue like Kennedy.
How? Genuinely curious, not being a contrarian. What threat does Trump pose?
Look...if he had lost the last election, conceded like he should have and come back to run again....more power to him.
But that's not what he did. He claimed the election was rigged before the election.
He claimed the election was rigged after the election.
He pressured state workers to change results.
He created fake electors.
He incited a riot at our Capitol.
He asked Pence to break Constitutional law.
He lied about the voting machines.
He continues to lie about the election.
That is ALL unacceptable in our system of government.
It's not about policy. If it was he might get my vote.
For me it is about a man who thinks he is bigger than our Constitution and rule of law.
? What did he do, or not do, that the uniparty MIC establishment would've/wouldn't've? Other than inflaming tensions in the ME by moving the capital of Israel to Jerusalem.Well since war has been topic of the day, we could start there. I’d think he’d get at least a few points from you for not feeding the US war machine and bombing every 3 world country into oblivion.
Did he do that?Pulls an Elon and fires 80% of useless government workers (twitter), and it runs just as, if not.more efficiently than before?
I mean yeah, they're bombs. That's the point. You're saying we should have destroyed them instead of giving them to Ukraine? Why did we just keep them in storage then and not destroy them?Because they are extremely lethal, you sick fvck.
And I acknowledged/owned that.You posted about it in the political thread. I'm pretty sure that isn't me making it political. Like I already said, we had already started the back-and-forth when you edited your regret for that into another post. You should have left it there as the instigator, but you wanted the last word. So be it.
It's laden with political landmines: "especially the Vietnam vets, who were severely mistreated, in some cases, the FIRST time they came home" "They deserve it" "It's an extremely worthy cause to support; both financially and in person."And I acknowledged/owned that.
Be that as it may, it doesn't justify, IMO, your generalized and crass opinions on something that you have grossly mischaracterized. You made the leap to it being a political rally, with a bunch of right wing fascists, and glorifying war. You made incorrect assumptions about it. And I honestly have no idea why you would do that. Politics had no presence or place there. I assure you.
Is that all you have to say? You don't want to address my post? You still just want to pick at loose threads?
I didn't bring politics into my original post. I was just sharing a story. Just like we shared drug stories the other night.
This was my original post:
I started a thread about it already, but I was at the Lexington airport last night, to greet the Honor Flight Veterans (mostly Vietnam but quite a few Korean vets as well), and I can't encourage you all enough, to get on the Kentucky Honor Flight website, look at the schedule, and try to go and greet them when they return. It was an unbelievable experience. Put the politics aside, and honor these folks. They deserve it, and their appreciation was palpable.
People lined up on both sides, for the entire length of the airport, with signs, flags, cheering on the veterans (especially the Vietnam vets, who were severly mistreated, in some cases, the FIRST time they came home) It's an extremely worthy cause to support; both financially and in person.
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I can only assume that the presence of American flags is what triggered you. Because I didn't express a single political opinion in the post. Quite the opposite in fact.
I'm a skeptic. A cynic. I attack all sacred cows with the same vehemence. Society, religion, politics, morals, philosophy, physics. People think that's great and join in if it's one they're personally skeptical of. But turn that lens on one of their pets, most often the flag or the cross, and they get all indignant.I have a sincere question for you. Are you generally happy as a person? You don't come across that way. (and this is coming from a person that most would describe as a misanthrope)