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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
LOL. I remember when he first won people were complaining that inflation went up to 130%... They didn't want to admit the spending was why inflation was bad. It took a few months to work it's way out of the system and eventually they will stabilize if they stay the course. If spending way more money than you take in was good for an economy then everyone would do it and prosper.
i hope this guy lives long enough to do some good. we need representatives with his attitude


 
Yes, I am a Marxist. What we agree on(hopefully) is that neither of us should be imposing our values on the other by force. I unequivocally disavow all such historical attempts, meaning for purposes of this conversation revolutionary communism. Revolutions tend to empower the most brutal, who then turn on the ideologues who gave them legitimacy. Marx is one of the foundational thinkers of modern economics. Anyone is free to disagree with his speculations on the future, but since he so accurately described the past and present that lends them weight. I’m just a man searching for the experimentally reproducible truth and Marx seems to be the closest we’ve come as of yet. I understand you support the things you mention, the economic status quo, institutions of faith, and the family. Why? You’re a deep thinker, I assume you have solid reasons.
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TikTok is a trash app but let’s be real here. You have no privacy anymore. If you think the government does not already have access to everything you say and do think again. Your phone, Alexa and any other device with a camera and or microphone can easily be “hacked” by the government, Apple and many other entities. The CCP is a real problem but our government is not far behind them.

This is clearly about government wanting total control over social media companies and the content they are able to deliver. You better believe X, Rumble and other platforms will be in their crosshairs next.

Our government has gotten us in $35Trillion in debt and have no plans to stop. Meanwhile, they continue to get rich along with their donors. They sold our country out a long time ago. The only way this changes is a revolution against the establishment that will not be pretty. Its not happening in the voting booth.
Rube take across the board. You're mad about China? This is a GREAT first step. How the f can you and Bill want China involved at all in what our people see and hear? Good god.
 
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Our government is so worried about China spying on us that they:

-Let Chinese spy balloons slowly float across America.
-Let record numbers of Chinese nationals freely cross our border.
-Ignore that Eric Swalwell dated a Chinese spy.
-Ignore that Dianne Feinstein employed a Chinese spy for 20 years.
- Allowed Chinese nationals/companies to buy up farmland near sensitive military sites
-Do nothing about Hunter and the 'big guy' having multi-million dollar deals with a CCP connected energy company.

Generally for getting rid of Tik-Tok - garbage surveillance app. Just pointing out the hypocrisy and selective outrage.
 
Inflation is down.
"Was"

 
Rube take across the board. You're mad about China? This is a GREAT first step. How the f can you and Bill want China involved at all in what our people see and hear? Good god.
Nobody wants that ideally, but the reality is they have it regardless of tiktok. If you don't want China or anyone else for that matter, having access to your data, you best just completely abandon the grid, build yourself a cabin in the middle of nowhere Alaska and live off the land.
 
Rube take across the board. You're mad about China? This is a GREAT first step. How the f can you and Bill want China involved at all in what our people see and hear? Good god.


Ah yes. Just one more “GREAT step” our federal government is taking to protect us that they certainly won’t use as an opening to target political rivals in the future.

How goddam gullible do you have to be to think this is about TikTok and will stop at TikTok. Right now, SCOTUS is waiting to hear arguments on the DOJ twisting existing laws to lock away political opponents for far longer than they can actually be held under US law.

Half of Washington is on China’s payroll, and you want to ban one app because China may have more access to spy on US citizens than the NSA and CIA for once.

Goddam Covid is long in the rear view. The unimaginable abuse of power by our government, and people want to give them more power to do that legally.
 
I don't know one solitary person that has experienced that side effect. Not one. I know literally hundreds of people via friends, family, and work. Internet fear mongering BS.
On a positive side note..... Keep on Ridin with Biden!
253k jobs added and 3.4 percent unemployment.
 
Dayum, the bearcats cock kicked the crap out of the Jayhawks by 20 points.....LOL

Saw that lead they had and turned the game off of it quick. Lol. Was hoping it would stick, but didn't want to watch if it didn't. Used to like the Bearcats many many years ago. No more tho
 
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I would say Rand is worried about the slippery slope that we are constantly told doesn't exist but then we end up sliding closer to a totalitarian state. LOL.

I would like to believe that, but over the last few years he has chosen his words very carefully and not asked some very pointed questions when he had the opportunity to nail someone in hearings. I think he's scared now and just playing the game as best his conscience will allow, rather than trying to change anything anymore.
 
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China is so embedded here that banning tiktok won't accomplish anything. 8 years ago it might have mattered but China has subsidiaries in every tech co. Most experts say that China gets way more personal data from Americans from US tech co's than they do from their own spy ware.

Exactly.

The only reasons the govt is pretending to go after TT is either to extort money from them, for show, or because China isn't sharing the data as agreed. We shouldn't be naive about this. The govt WANTS TT to be available to skew minds and narratives, as well as to rail against. It's one of the boogeymen they need to distract us right now.
 
This line from the WSJ editorial board is where a lot of us differ, I think:

While U.S. Big Tech companies may lean left, they aren’t motivated to harm the country.

I’m not willing to just absolve US Tech companies, including as directed and controlled by the US government, from responsibility simply because the CCP has a stake in TikTok.

Twitter and Facebook were basically under the control of the US government through Covid, and our country will never recover from the harm they contributed to.

The govt controls the harm. That's the only difference. China is an enemy that wants us to confiscate guns 10 years ago and call in the debt. The govt wants to milk the dying cow for all it's possibly worth along the way, delaying the end as long as possible.
 
For sure. Well if we know anything, it has little to do with actually protecting citizens privacy.
People make fun of MTG but she was spot on yesterday. She said if we are wanting to stop sharing our personal info, why is the ban not universal instead of just china? And she also mentioned why we are allowing china to buy our farmland. She is not as dumb as some try to make her. .
 
California is about to implement energy charges based on income. Several important points included in this article, imo:

1. CA has concentrated almost exclusively on clean energy, disregarding reliability and affordability
2. HH with $28k-$69k would pay $20-34/mo more; $69k - $180k would pay $51-73/mo more; >$180k would pay $85-128/mo more;
3. Someone who makes only $68k in CA is barely above the poverty line but they have to pay more for electricity?
4. CA average electric cost is almost twice the national avg. ($0.32 vs. $0.18)
5. Even some D lawmakers are pushing back - one said 'to avoid rolling blackouts', which I took to mean that they are already seeing rolling blackouts, which means the grid is already unreliable
6. Which gov't agency will verify a CA resident's income? Another ploy to know everything about their residents for future use against them?
7. Obviously, renewable green energy is NOT cheaper to produce than electricity from fossil fuels and nuclear
8. Shon Hiatt, Director of USC Business of Energy Transition, said, "Renewable energy is not cheaper than natural gas or coal or other types of baseload energy. The problem with INTERMITTENT (emphasis added by me) renewables...' Intermittent is a key word in that quote.

The abject stupidity of some of our 'leaders' never ceases to amaze me.

 
if you own a cell phone, your data's been breached. your data is already in anyone's hands who wants to manipulate what you see and read. Banning TikTok is just a blip on the radar of data collection. People need to understand the ban or forced selling is about CONTENT manipulation not data collection.
Rogan had a tech security expert on that said basically every nation on Earth has spyware now where they can read anyone's phone. You don't even have to download anything or go to website or answer a text... All they have to do is have your phone number and ping your phone and they are in.

Tik tok is obviously spyware but China has obvious spy sites around our military bases and are obviously bringing in fentanyl across the border and obviously stealing intellectual property and obviously bribing US politicians... why just focus on the one thing and add the caveat that the president can decide who is a foreign owned site?
 
The govt controls the harm. That's the only difference. China is an enemy that wants us to confiscate guns 10 years ago and call in the debt. The govt wants to milk the dying cow for all it's possibly worth along the way, delaying the end as long as possible.
Yep. That's the other thing that sticks out to me. Tik Tok pushes all the issues that dems say they support.. gay, trans, blm... every weird thing and anti US common values... and then dems voted to ban the app... I'm calling BS. They have another reason to vote for this or the vote would have been almost unanimous down party lines.
 
California is about to implement energy charges based on income. Several important points included in this article, imo:

1. CA has concentrated almost exclusively on clean energy, disregarding reliability and affordability
2. HH with $28k-$69k would pay $20-34/mo more; $69k - $180k would pay $51-73/mo more; >$180k would pay $85-128/mo more;
3. Someone who makes only $68k in CA is barely above the poverty line but they have to pay more for electricity?
4. CA average electric cost is almost twice the national avg. ($0.32 vs. $0.18)
5. Even some D lawmakers are pushing back - one said 'to avoid rolling blackouts', which I took to mean that they are already seeing rolling blackouts, which means the grid is already unreliable
6. Which gov't agency will verify a CA resident's income? Another ploy to know everything about their residents for future use against them?
7. Obviously, renewable green energy is NOT cheaper to produce than electricity from fossil fuels and nuclear
8. Shon Hiatt, Director of USC Business of Energy Transition, said, "Renewable energy is not cheaper than natural gas or coal or other types of baseload energy. The problem with INTERMITTENT (emphasis added by me) renewables...' Intermittent is a key word in that quote.

The abject stupidity of some of our 'leaders' never ceases to amaze me.

California is an absolute cancer to the rest of us.

Related: do we all understand now why they take weeks to count votes out there? There’s no way the people are actually voting for this.
 
Weird how quick dems flipped on jews. I wonder how many jews will figure it out before it's too late?
Israel is in an existential war and democrats are telling them they must allow their enemies off the mat, or elect new leaders who will.

Let this sink in. Democrats are nothing but scum and you better ask yourself who they’ll prioritize over you.
 
California is an absolute cancer to the rest of us.

Related: do we all understand now why they take weeks to count votes out there? There’s no way the people are actually voting for this.
One thing I forgot to mention - CA has a 'no new ICE purchase' law that takes effect around 2032 or 2035. So, force residents to purchase expensive EVs, further degrade and put pressure on an unreliable electric grid by adding milions of batteries charging and charge MORE to recharge your EV battery. And, Newsome is seen as a legitimate POTUS candidate? He's a walking, talking disaster who lies all the time with impunity. So, of course, he's a frontrunner for POTUS in 2028, if not sooner.
 
Haha “song of the year”

Yes, please don’t ban Tic Toc
Sincerely, The CCP

Like most 'pop' music nowadays, awful dreck. Just because it's some weirdo, trans activist 'singing' doesn't make it better or worse. It's a sh!t song regardless. The video is hard to watch because it's trying to normalize an individual's delusional behavior as somehow normal. Dylan Mulvaney may be many things, but 'normal' is not one of them.
 
Yep. That's the other thing that sticks out to me. Tik Tok pushes all the issues that dems say they support.. gay, trans, blm... every weird thing and anti US common values... and then dems voted to ban the app... I'm calling BS. They have another reason to vote for this or the vote would have been almost unanimous down party lines.

Exactly
 
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