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Folks, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will decide the election. Our woke friends need to understand that they very well may cost us the margin in those states with white blue collar middle class voters that just want to work, send their kids to a decent school without them being groomed as the next generation of gays, and come home to a peaceful neighborhood.

2016 the nuts costs us 3 Supreme Court justices and got us Trump when that was an election we easily win but the Bernie Sanders crybabies decided to lose on principle.

Losing has consequences. So every time you feel the urge to throw on a neon pink g-string and head on down to the mall to play twister with the kids maybe realize you're killing the Democratic Party.
Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee are corrupt, union-run cesspools. There will be more than enough fake ballots stuffed into drop boxes to overcome the newly created grooming plank of your “party”.
 
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Folks, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will decide the election. Our woke friends need to understand that they very well may cost us the margin in those states with white blue collar middle class voters that just want to work, send their kids to a decent school without them being groomed as the next generation of gays, and come home to a peaceful neighborhood.

2016 the nuts costs us 3 Supreme Court justices and got us Trump when that was an election we easily win but the Bernie Sanders crybabies decided to lose on principle.

Losing has consequences. So every time you feel the urge to throw on a neon pink g-string and head on down to the mall to play twister with the kids maybe realize you're killing the Democratic Party.
Didn't anyone tell you that the Republicans are the white and hispanic working class party? Jeez dude, the Blue Dogs are so 1975.
 

It’ll end when the gov wants it to end. At the moment, they don’t.

Anything of value (politicians homes, banks, foreign dignitaries, embassies) the gov doesn’t hesitate to use armed security to defend. It’s a no brainer for the gov because it’s the most effective method of keeping something of value, safe.

Why should schools be any different? Because it’s more advantageous to use school shootings as political pawns in the R vs L power plays by our politicians than it is to simply apply the most effective, time tested, and trusted solution we’ve had for centuries.
 
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That’s definitely one solution but not the entire solution. I hate the idea of my kids going to school with armed guards but it’s the world we are giving them. It’s more complicated than that though and both sides can bend some to find a solution. We all saw even an entire police force in Uvalde was scared to engage the shooter because he had an AR-15 and it was “a weapon of war”. If an entire police force pussies out and won’t save children being obliterated then one guard isn’t going to stop all this and you know it.

You guys have to bend too. You don’t need these killing machines. Please take the time to read the article below. While it doesn’t show actual pictures it does give a 3D visual of what an AR does including to one of the 6 year olds at Sandy Hook. These guns completely destroy people to where they’re unrecognizable. It’s unfathomable that anyone supports these things being legal. I’m wasting my breath though. None of you care enough. They pulled 15 little kids out of that bathroom from that school, all dead. 80 bullets lit them up. Their parents could hardly recognize what was left of some of them. When this country moved on and accepted that as part of our normal lives, it was over then. Nothing is ever going to be done. We all just do the same thing now.. cross our fingers when we drop our kids off at school every day and hope we don’t end up like these poor souls.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

It’s definitely a crisis with no end in sight. Instead of politicians spinning around trying to one up each other, we need something real, time tested and proven effective implemented like yesterday.

We can debate guns, mental health, point fingers, and we seem to have been doing this for the last 20 years while nothing changes. This is why I suggested what I did until we can figure something else out which seems still very far off as politicians are more concerned with the blame game than figuring out a fix.

Removal of the AR15 is not a realistic fix. There are many similar firearms that can inflict the same amount of damage. Removal of all guns is not even a realistic fix. Darrel Brooks didn’t have a firearm and instead used his SUV to mow down a Christmas parade. I think we need to look at motivations instead of the method. Firearms have existed for centuries but school shootings are a relative new thing in comparison. What’s changed in the last 20-25 years? I have my theories as do many, but let’s put an effective realistic solution in play until we can figure it out.
 
Social media is not free speech you damn lunatics. You are still free to walk out of your trailer and scream you conspiracy bullshit to your neighbors because that is free speech. Social media is a business and they get to decide who their customers are. That's called capitalism. Pretty much the only time I see any tweets is in this board so I give no ****s about it.
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A lot of kids get bullied. Trans have a 41% suicide rate. Bullied non-transgenders don’t have near the suicide rate as trannies.

Red flag laws don’t work when 41% of people of a mentally ill group have possessions of guns and the Red Flag laws do nothing and they are becoming more violent. Guns aren’t the problem. Trannies and democrats are the problems.
When society wakes up and understands any human being that wants to change their sex is mentally ill things might improve.

But many in society does the opposite. We have half of the nation who thinks it is OK. These cases should be treated as mental illness and society should help with treatment. We can't continue down this path as a nation. Mental illness must be identified and treated.

Treatment is the key to this national problem that is becoming a crisis.
 
That is a real problem right now on both sides of the political aisle. Most politicians are framing things now in a way that incites violence and lashing
out.
Listen to the rhetoric. It's not just Trump but he's a good example. Says that the Dems are evil. They are destroying America. They are going after your guns, kids, jobs, religion, gender, way of life, border, schools, cars, votes and your entire future. It's not enough now to just say Dems wanna raise your taxes.
When some hear that they feel completely backed into a corner and feel as though the only way out is thru violence. That is exactly how Jan 6th happened. They truly believed they were helping their country and saving it. Sadly they were lied to about the election.
Dems do it too though. They scare their voters about Trump, Social Security, killer cops, racism, abortion, and the climate.
When people no longer believe in our government systems and that they have no alternative for action other than violence....it can get ugly.
The Dems are right about the Pubs going after their bodies but the Pubs are right about the Dems not doing squat at the border.
I just miss the old tax debates and not looking at our fellow Americans as enemies. The politicians have done that to divide us and keep us from seeing how much they are screwing us all.
I do not disagree about the rhetoric, but you guys gotta look in the mirror. Remember in 2000 when algore said this is a "battle between good and evil"? Remember when a 2004 commercial accused W of dragging a black man behind a car with a chain around his neck? Remember in 2012 when Biden claimed Romney "wants to put ya'll back in chains!"
IOW, the dems started this scorched earth stuff, and now we see the fruition of it with Donald.

Once algore described those who disagree with him, the whole other side of the aisle as evil, ... civility was over. That did more to divide the country than anything else i can recall. Put the blame where it started.
 
As much as I disagree with a lot of you on here I truly believe if we were actually sitting in a room together we could craft meaningful legislation on a wide range of issues. We aren't beholden to lobbyists and most of us truly do want a better country for our kids/grandkids.
I'm progressive but don't want gyrating drag queens on every corner. There is a time and place that doesn't involve children.
I'm progressive but don't think trans athletes have a right to compete in women's sports.
I'm progressive but think the border is too pourous and we need more cops and prisons.
I'm progressive but don't think women should be aborting babies after 3 months pregnant.
I'm progressive on most trans issues but not surgery before age 18. I'm ok with the meds under a doc's care because it's mostly reversible.... surgery isn't.
I'm progressive but think people have a right to own guns as long as they pass background checks that should be tougher than the ones we have today. They aren't working.
I'm a "Your rights end where mine begin" progressive.
I am enheartened (is that a word?) by some of this.

One small thing i ask is: if ay 91 days, abortion is bad, why is it ok 48 hrs earlier? What changed to that human being within 48 hours to change it from good to bad?

Why do you take pride in being self-labeled a "progressive"?
 
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March 28, 2023. The day I officially became a Republican.

Makes me sick to my stomach to be a Republican... but idiots have actually started handing out reparations checks in Evansville, In. and it is going on in cities all over the country.

I guess I'll vote for DeSantis.
 
Surprise.... Surprise. Another AR15 mowing down babies.
Right wing nut jobs love guns more than children. It's not even debatable anymore.
Hold your AR15 close tonight and tell it how much you love her.
Yep Sam you are right…the damn armalite rifle loaded itself, then got in the car by itself , drove itself to school, got out of the car by itself and it walked itself to the doors and fired itself at the glass and then it walked itself up the stairs and shot itself at the kids and teachers.
There is def 100% proof that the gun shot itself and no one helped it out at all🙄🙄🙄
 
Yep Sam you are right…the damn armalite rifle loaded itself, then got in the car by itself , drove itself to school, got out of the car by itself and it walked itself to the doors and fired itself at the glass and then it walked itself up the stairs and shot itself at the kids and teachers.
There is def 100% proof that the gun shot itself and no one helped it out at all🙄🙄🙄

It’s easier to blame an inanimate object than it is to look in the mirror of how liberal culture has decayed every aspect of this country.
 
I noticed the timestamp state that she pulled in to her parking spot at 9:55, but didn't shoot the glass out until nearly 10:11.


Sammy and dion would also be posting to catpaw on their way out.
 
It’s definitely a crisis with no end in sight. Instead of politicians spinning around trying to one up each other, we need something real, time tested and proven effective implemented like yesterday.

We can debate guns, mental health, point fingers, and we seem to have been doing this for the last 20 years while nothing changes. This is why I suggested what I did until we can figure something else out which seems still very far off as politicians are more concerned with the blame game than figuring out a fix.

Removal of the AR15 is not a realistic fix. There are many similar firearms that can inflict the same amount of damage. Removal of all guns is not even a realistic fix. Darrel Brooks didn’t have a firearm and instead used his SUV to mow down a Christmas parade. I think we need to look at motivations instead of the method. Firearms have existed for centuries but school shootings are a relative new thing in comparison. What’s changed in the last 20-25 years? I have my theories as do many, but let’s put an effective realistic solution in play until we can figure it out.
Removing AR15s isn’t the only fix, I never argued that. But I think a solution involves everything, including taking murder machines out of the hands of the population. It’s clear in your response you’re not willing to bend when it comes to guns, that’s the problem. Blame everything else when guns are part of the problem too. We have a good % of the population that seems to be getting more insane all the time. In what world does it make sense to have AR15s so readily available for them to get their hands on?
 
Good morning. What a strange day. “Keep it legal to groom kids and mutilate their genitals or we’ll shoot them” was not what anybody expected but here we are.

When the media proclaims that laws against those things is akin to genocide, though, are you really surprised that a lunatic seized upon that rhetoric?

Watch closely today to see who they try to blame. I bet you can guess.
 
Removing AR15s isn’t the only fix, I never argued that. But I think a solution involves everything, including taking murder machines out of the hands of the population. It’s clear in your response you’re not willing to bend when it comes to guns, that’s the problem. Blame everything else when guns are part of the problem too. We have a good % of the population that seems to be getting more insane all the time. In what world does it make sense to have AR15s so readily available for them to get their hands on?

Why should I bend? I’m a law abiding responsible gun owner. What does removing my firearms do for stopping school shootings? Do we take away your car because of the deaths due to drunk drivers? There’s plenty of laws on the books now and every administration adds more and chips away at the 2A. Pass a law that takes rights away from lawful people and does nothing to actually remedy the issue it hand. It’s false security wrapped up in a bill to make everyone feel good until the next shooting. Rinse and repeat.

Everyone knows there’s one effective way to end this but no one has the balls to admit it’s become necessary.
 
Surprise.... Surprise. Another AR15 mowing down babies.
Right wing nut jobs love guns more than children. It's not even debatable anymore.
Hold your AR15 close tonight and tell it how much you love her.
The AR15 didn't kill those kids, the deranged lunatic pulling the trigger did. What does my, or anyone else's, ownership of an AR15 have ANYTHING at all to do with what happened at that school? Why should any law abiding citizen who rightly owns and properly uses an AR15 be punished because of something a deranged lunatic does. A lack of access to an AR15 wasn't going to prevent that tragedy. It could have just as well been carried out with a 9MM pistol. but again, it wasn't the gun that killed those kids, it was the deranged lunatic pulling the trigger that did.
 
Yep Sam you are right…the damn armalite rifle loaded itself, then got in the car by itself , drove itself to school, got out of the car by itself and it walked itself to the doors and fired itself at the glass and then it walked itself up the stairs and shot itself at the kids and teachers.
There is def 100% proof that the gun shot itself and no one helped it out at all🙄🙄🙄


Something that needs to be discussed. The shooter evaluated 2 places, but chose the school because of a "threat assessment" that there was "too much security" by the mentally ill attacker. About the 11 min mark.

IOW, she went after a "gun-free" zone.

How long are we going to place our kids or allow kids to be placed in danger zones like this?
 
Good morning. What a strange day. “Keep it legal to groom kids and mutilate their genitals or we’ll shoot them” was not what anybody expected but here we are.

When the media proclaims that laws against those things is akin to genocide, though, are you really surprised that a lunatic seized upon that rhetoric?

Watch closely today to see who they try to blame. I bet you can guess.

This. Guarantee if they ever release the manifesto this person 100% felt justified for their actions.

Through the use of social media and msm, libs sold an entire generation that they're at war with evil people who want to kill kids and minorities. It someone really believes that, and tons do, it's easy to see how they justify actions like this. In their mind, they're killing monsters.

It's sick and they know exactly what they're doing
 
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