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How will they rule ??!

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Your opinion is that the US is the best. You offer no data or support, just your opinion. You’re welcome to it. And I’m welcome to think you’re wrong.
There’s plenty of data & support for my opinion. I was waiting on the country you chose so that we could have an intellectual debate on how the two compare with one another regarding the topic at hand. But you seem content to circle back around to where we started. So I’ll leave you with just one data supported fact that is all-encompassing...

- The USA has 1.8 million black millionaires. That’s more than ALL of the other countries in the world COMBINED. (Technically speaking it’s 1.79 million)

Money isn’t everything. But that’s what I call major economic opportunity for POC that is uniquely available in one country...the USA.


Before you go there...yes, there is still a wealth gap problem in this country that needs to be addressed. Both black vs white & top vs bottom regardless of race. No doubt. Doesn’t diminish the economic opportunity gap revealed in the fact above between the USA & all other countries in the world.

I personally know 4 black millionaires that live right here in Kentucky (2 of them are your neighbors right there in Louisville). One came from a middle class family but the other 3 went from being penniless to becoming self-made millionaires albeit by very different routes.

But I know how skeptical this place is of anecdotal stories (with good reason). So I’ll end this with a link to a good Business Insider article about 3 American black female millionaires and how they got there. That article also talks about wealth gap...which shouldn’t be glossed over...but I encourage you to take the author’s advice & focus on the stories of those three outstanding young ladies. All came from nothing and became self made millionaires...ages 33, 38 & 42 when the article was written.

Side note: I would pay top dollar to be there in person when you told those 3 strong, independent women to their faces that they should hand their hard-earned accumulated wealth over to the government when they die instead of passing it on to their children. Hahaha. Lord have mercy on your soul, brother! They would absolutely shred you to pieces. Hahahahaha

Side note 2: There’s some links to good articles specifically about wealth gap at the end of that article as well which I’m sure you will enjoy.


https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/black-millionaires-on-building-wealth-2020-9
 

It’s sad how easily you fools are fooled into believing most anything.
Lol. Factcheck.org. Seriously? You ever look at who finds “factcheck.org”?

How do you tell something is truth? When the fact check sites all start running cover for it.
 
Reported crime under Biden in 2021 doesn't look much different than under Trump to me. It was higher when DT left office than when he entered, 403 vs. 398 per 100K, per this:


What the hell did he do about it for 4 years? Johnny Come Lately I tell ya.
Yea, 2018 and 2019 dont look anything like the 2020 summer of love. Real strong point
 

It’s sad how easily you fools are fooled into believing most anything.

Factcheck.org huh? 5/25/22? Lol

17 Senate members on 2/15/23 just introduced a bill called “No WHO Pandemic Preparedness Treaty Without Senate Approval” in direct response to this.

 
1938 is not 2023, duncecap. NATO makes that so. Any comparison of the two is wrong and ultimately reveals the limited logic of our involvement.
What threat did Germany pose to the United States directly in WWII? Are you doing a John Belushi in Animal House impression thinking they bombed Pearl Harbor or what? I am interested to know as according to you it is greater than nuclear tipped hypersonic missiles so I am all ears?

In page after page also according to you guys what happens in Europe isn't our business anyway, so would you have even advocated US involvement in WWII Europe?
 
There’s plenty of data & support for my opinion. I was waiting on the country you chose so that we could have an intellectual debate on how the two compare with one another regarding the topic at hand. But you seem content to circle back around to where we started. So I’ll leave you with just one data supported fact that is all-encompassing...

- The USA has 1.8 million black millionaires. That’s more than ALL of the other countries in the world COMBINED. (Technically speaking it’s 1.79 million)

Money isn’t everything. But that’s what I call major economic opportunity for POC that is uniquely available in one country...the USA.


Before you go there...yes, there is still a wealth gap problem in this country that needs to be addressed. Both black vs white & top vs bottom regardless of race. No doubt. Doesn’t diminish the economic opportunity gap revealed in the fact above between the USA & all other countries in the world.

I personally know 4 black millionaires that live right here in Kentucky (2 of them are your neighbors right there in Louisville). One came from a middle class family but the other 3 went from being penniless to becoming self-made millionaires albeit by very different routes.

But I know how skeptical this place is of anecdotal stories (with good reason). So I’ll end this with a link to a good Business Insider article about 3 American black female millionaires and how they got there. That article also talks about wealth gap...which shouldn’t be glossed over...but I encourage you to take the author’s advice & focus on the stories of those three outstanding young ladies. All came from nothing and became self made millionaires...ages 33, 38 & 42 when the article was written.

Side note: I would pay top dollar to be there in person when you told those 3 strong, independent women to their faces that they should hand their hard-earned accumulated wealth over to the government when they die instead of passing it on to their children. Hahaha. Lord have mercy on your soul, brother! They would absolutely shred you to pieces. Hahahahaha

Side note 2: There’s some links to good articles specifically about wealth gap at the end of that article as well which I’m sure you will enjoy.


https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/black-millionaires-on-building-wealth-2020-9
I agree w everything but the so called "wealth gap problem". IMO, basic math dispells that "problem" through 3 points. At the risk of OVER simplification for a msg board:


1. Lets say you have a person making 1M and one person making 1K. They both get an EQUAL 10% raise. The income gap grew.
2. ON AVERAGE, ppl that know how to make money, will make money. Ppl that do NOT know how to make money might or might not make money. So, ON AVERAGE, the 10% for BOTH is pure fantasy, because the person at a 1M, has the habits, or skills to make more. The person at 1K, likely does not. So, the gap grows again.
3. ON AVERAGE, ppl that make more tend to be older and more experienced. And ppl just starting put tend to make less. As far as i can tell, there is a new person starting out (at the 1K) every year, so again, the gap grows larger. (If someone doesnt like that, then fine, pay for the poor person's school and/or give them a stronger work ethic. But that is on the lib, not me.)

All 3 situations are PERFECTLY FAIR AND NORMAL. Therefore the income gap problem is a myth, and is only a problem when NOT growing larger.
 
This place is a far-right cesspool. Obviously my leftism isn’t going to be well received. I’m here to challenge y’all’s preconceptions, not preach to the choir. I don’t need that social reassurance like y’all do.
If Lefty’s outnumber the righties and their ideals are in the majority as you seem to think, then why is this place so full of “far right”? Why aren’t there more of you in here fighting for your cause?
 
Male and female, eh? All cut and dried? Bright line distinctions? Who made hermaphrodites? Are XXY and XYY individuals male, female, or something else? There's a condition where there are no testosterone receptors so the individual has no male sexual attributes at all. Is that person male or female? Or something else?

The idea that there are only 2 physical sexes simply isn't true. To think that Bronze Age shepherds anticipated every possible moral and physical possibility is just weird.
The lefties love to ask about hermaphroditism. Yes, genetic mutations exist. But, we all know the infinite gender claim has NOTHING a to do with such things.
 
There’s plenty of data & support for my opinion. I was waiting on the country you chose so that we could have an intellectual debate on how the two compare with one another regarding the topic at hand. But you seem content to circle back around to where we started. So I’ll leave you with just one data supported fact that is all-encompassing...

- The USA has 1.8 million black millionaires. That’s more than ALL of the other countries in the world COMBINED. (Technically speaking it’s 1.79 million)

Money isn’t everything. But that’s what I call major economic opportunity for POC that is uniquely available in one country...the USA.


Before you go there...yes, there is still a wealth gap problem in this country that needs to be addressed. Both black vs white & top vs bottom regardless of race. No doubt. Doesn’t diminish the economic opportunity gap revealed in the fact above between the USA & all other countries in the world.

I personally know 4 black millionaires that live right here in Kentucky (2 of them are your neighbors right there in Louisville). One came from a middle class family but the other 3 went from being penniless to becoming self-made millionaires albeit by very different routes.

But I know how skeptical this place is of anecdotal stories (with good reason). So I’ll end this with a link to a good Business Insider article about 3 American black female millionaires and how they got there. That article also talks about wealth gap...which shouldn’t be glossed over...but I encourage you to take the author’s advice & focus on the stories of those three outstanding young ladies. All came from nothing and became self made millionaires...ages 33, 38 & 42 when the article was written.

Side note: I would pay top dollar to be there in person when you told those 3 strong, independent women to their faces that they should hand their hard-earned accumulated wealth over to the government when they die instead of passing it on to their children. Hahaha. Lord have mercy on your soul, brother! They would absolutely shred you to pieces. Hahahahaha

Side note 2: There’s some links to good articles specifically about wealth gap at the end of that article as well which I’m sure you will enjoy.


https://www.businessinsider.com/personal-finance/black-millionaires-on-building-wealth-2020-9
I appreciate the adult conversation. There are less than 10 million black people in all of Europe put together. There are over 41 million here. Of course there are going to be more millionaires. I applaud their hard work and dedication. None of which indicates America has more social mobility than European countries like Norway(one random example) which was the conversation. As for them and their success I would simply ask you, are they the rule? Or the exception? You don’t have to answer, we both know. What you need to acknowledge is that those women’s success stories aren’t as simple as the ‘Just budget!’ line of BS they’re serving. Or most everyone would be a millionaire. It’s luck. They don’t want to acknowledge it because they lived it and want to think their position is due to their decisions and work. Which are obviously important factors. But not the main ones. What’s the one common thread in their three stories? “Take risks!” And what does that mean? For every one of them that those risks paid off for there are many more for whom they did not.
 
That's not why you're here.

And as a communist, you need social reassurance by definitino.

Background: there was a 1930s-1970s detective novelist named Rex Stout. His detective was an eccentric named Nero Wolfe.

[Rex Stout's] FBI file in 1942 contained a memo that branded Stout as “a Communist fellow traveler and one of the prize exhibits of the [Martin] Dies House Committee on Un-American Activities.” When Stout met Dies, the Amarillo Globe reported, Stout told him "I hate Communists as much as you do, Martin, but there's one difference between us. I know what a Communist is and you don't."


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You all don't give any indication that you know what Communism is or isn't.
 
What threat did Germany pose to the United States directly in WWII? Are you doing a John Belushi in Animal House impression thinking they bombed Pearl Harbor or what? I am interested to know as according to you it is greater than nuclear tipped hypersonic missiles so I am all ears?

In page after page also according to you guys what happens in Europe isn't our business anyway, so would you have even advocated US involvement in WWII Europe?
America First. Sound familiar?



 
If Lefty’s outnumber the righties and their ideals are in the majority as you seem to think, then why is this place so full of “far right”? Why aren’t there more of you in here fighting for your cause?
Because it’s a Kentucky sports forum. Kentucky is an extremely Trumpy state. Not indicative of the nation at large in any way. Diversity, income, or political affiliation. And sports is generally more of a rightwing activity than lefty. There are tons of entertainment options in today’s world, sports is a traditionalist thing. Also this being a sports forum and not a political one, the only people here are hardcore politics enthusiasts. People who care so much it bleeds into every aspect of their lives. Like sports. It’s also old. Which means conservative. Not many young healthy people spending time here.

Do you actually think this thread is representative of the political makeup of the country at large?
 
Because it’s a Kentucky sports forum. Kentucky is an extremely Trumpy state. Not indicative of the nation at large in any way. Diversity, income, or political affiliation. And sports is generally more of a rightwing activity than lefty. There are tons of entertainment options in today’s world, sports is a traditionalist thing. Also this being a sports forum and not a political one, the only people here are hardcore politics enthusiasts. People who care so much it bleeds into every aspect of their lives. Like sports. It’s also old. Which means conservative. Not many young healthy people spending time here.

Do you actually think this thread is representative of the political makeup of the country at large?
You mean it’s not indicative of the handful of major cities in the US. But is indicative of the vast majority of the area of the US. Kentucky does have a Democrat governor, why is that?
 
I hate this guy so much. He’s such a disgusting piece of shit and his brain make it even worse.

By the way, if someone has a Ukrainian flag, you are a brainwashed loser, a total sheep. I’ve seen people with BLM and Ukraine flags but never the Stars and Stripes. It’s really pathetic how lefties are oblivious and or hypocrites with how they back Ukraine given the laws/tyranny there. Where’s the alphabet cult on Ukraine’s stances? Lol
 
You mean it’s not indicative of the handful of major cities in the US. But is indicative of the vast majority of the area of the US. Kentucky does have a Democrat governor, why is that?
You honestly think so? It isn’t. Arizona is nothing like Kentucky. Neither are like Maine. Or Florida. Or California. Kentucky isn’t representative of the American population.

Because Bevin was an asshole carpetbagger who started pension wars with our citizens.
 
You honestly think so? It isn’t. Arizona is nothing like Kentucky. Neither are like Maine. Or Florida. Or California. Kentucky isn’t representative of the American population.

Because Bevin was an asshole carpetbagger who started pension wars with our citizens.
Dude, Bevin was an excption to the rule. We have by and large had democrat Governors throughout modern history. Ernie Fletcher being about the only fairly recent exception. Louisville and Lexington control who’s Governor. The rest of the state decides who controls the legislature. It’s our only semblance of any checks and balances in this state.
 
Dude, Bevin was an excption to the rule. We have by and large had democrat Governors throughout modern history. Ernie Fletcher being about the only fairly recent exception. Louisville and Lexington control who’s Governor. The rest of the state decides who controls the legislature. It’s our only semblance of any checks and balances in this state.
No, what you’re describing is the lag of party switches. Lots of old Southern lifelong Democrats who aren’t who the party is anymore. They’re slowly realizing that and switching parties. Beshear may win re-election because of his popularity, but that will be despite the trend towards Republicans in the state. And it’ll be a nail-biter if he does. After that KY is unlikely to have a D governor for the foreseeable future. Beshear is the exception, not Bevin. Trump won KY almost two to one both elections. Your understanding of the facts on the ground is outdated.
 
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No, what you’re describing is the lag of party switches. Lots of old Southern lifelong Democrats who aren’t who the party is anymore. They’re slowly realizing that and switching parties. Beshear may win re-election because of his popularity, but that will be despite the trend towards Republicans in the state. And it’ll be a nail-biter if he does. After that KY is unlikely to have a D governor for the foreseeable future. Beshear is the exception, not Bevin. Trump won KY almost two to one both elections. Your understanding of the facts on the ground is outdated.

That's because kentuckians think for themselves.

Notice how they stayed neutral in the civil war?

Being a kentuckian is a thing of pride, except for people of your ilk.
 
I hate this guy so much. He’s such a disgusting piece of shit and his brain make it even worse.

By the way, if someone has a Ukrainian flag, you are a brainwashed loser, a total sheep. I’ve seen people with BLM and Ukraine flags but never the Stars and Stripes. It’s really pathetic how lefties are oblivious and or hypocrites with how they back Ukraine given the laws/tyranny there. Where’s the alphabet cult on Ukraine’s stances? Lol

Nah, not if you're Ukrainian. Just like the Irish or Italians or Puerto Ricans with their flags and such.

But if you're not, then, yes, you are a fool and virtue signaling said foolishness.
 
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That's because kentuckians think for themselves.

Notice how they stayed neutral in the civil war?

Being a kentuckian is a thing of pride, except for people of your ilk.
Yeah, keeping our slaves for years after the Emancipation Proclamation is totally a point of pride. We were literally the last state to free our slaves. And even then only because we were federally forced to with the ratification of the 13th Amendment by three quarters of the states. Not us though, we refused to ratify that sucker. Until ‘76. 19, not 18. You just can’t help but reveal yourself huh?
 
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