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How will they rule ??!

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4 more convicted! alll the MAGA morons gonna have a whole prison to themselves.
Interesting that anyone requesting their trial be moved was denied.
 

4 more convicted! alll the MAGA morons gonna have a whole prison to themselves.
And yet Hillary is allowed to destroy 33,000 emails that were under subpoena from the Congress of the United States with absolute impunity. The FBI was able to grant immunity to those who were involved in exchange for nothing. Don't even pretend you care about justice.

You are going to be plowed under just like the rest of us and you are too stupid to understand it.
 
Glad to see you got over mentioning Trump. Now its only like 33 out of the last 45 pages. Keep it up. There are heroin addicts with worse recidivism.
Typical Lib. Switch the DT standard from bringing him up to mentioning; i.e., not allowed to respond to others bringing him up. Next it will be that I was thinking of him.
 
I would say that the concept of the communist "worker's paradise" is the human equivalent of a hive.

In your iteration of a Marxist society, would you fulfil the role of "queen bee?"
Marxism is about freeing the individual, not suppressing it. To you Marxism looks like the Soviet Union. To my generation Marxism looks like Star Trek. Obviously that's an oversimplification for very complex sociopolitical and economic concepts. But on a practical level the destruction of the middle class that most posters here decry has been lived by Millennials and Zoomers. We cannot own homes at the rates our parents did. We cannot have children at the rates our parents did. The widespread entry of women into the workforce has not increased a household's buying power or freedom, it has reduced the previous single earner standard to the same with double earners. Which brings with it even more costs and time burdens as previous hard domestic work has to be purchased or squeezed in. Our quality of life has gone down. The capitalist American utopia Boomers experienced has failed us. That money has all been siphoned out of our society by those at the very top. Now we all disagree on the reasons for these things and the solutions to address them. But wanting to use the power of our collective will embodied in our democratic constitutional republic to fight for our freedoms and improve our quality of life is not tyrannical or antithetical to American values. Any more than Teddy Roosevelt busting up the trusts was. Nor is it overly collectivist any more than Yellowstone and rest of our National Parks are(also Teddy). Or the highways and Post Office if you're more logistically minded. We all live as individuals in a society and all have to balance those interests. Tilting too much toward either extreme isn't healthy. And America doesn't currently have an issue with being too collectivist.
 
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Marxism is about freeing the individual, not suppressing it. To you Marxism looks the Soviet Union. To my generation Marxism looks like Star Trek. Obviously that's an oversimplification for very complex sociopolitical and economic concepts. But on a practical level the destruction of the middle class that most posters here decry has been lived by Millennials and Zoomers. We cannot own homes at the rates our parents did. We cannot have children at the rates our parents did. The widespread entry of women into the workforce has not increased a household's buying power or freedom, it has reduced the previous single earner standard to the same with double earners. Which brings with it even more costs and time burdens as previous hard domestic work has to be purchased or squeezed in. Our quality of life has gone down. The capitalist American utopia Boomers experienced has failed us. That money has all been siphoned out of our society by those at the very top. Now we all disagree on the reasons for these things and the solutions to address them. But wanting to use the power of our collective will embodied in our constitutional republic to fight for our freedoms and improve our quality of life is not tyrannical or antithetical to American values. Any more than Teddy Roosevelt busting up the trusts was. Nor is it overly collectivist any more than Yellowstone and rest of our National Parks are(also Teddy). Or the highways and Post Office if you're more logistically minded. We all live as individuals in a society and all have to balance those interests. Tilting too much toward either extreme isn't healthy. And America doesn't currently have an issue with being too collectivist.
I stopped reading after your first sentence.
 
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I stopped reading after your first sentence.
Admitting that your mind is closed is the first step. You will not burst into flames from simply reading my post. You are free to disagree with it to your heart's content. You will be joined by many of your comrades here. But closing your mind is so limiting.
 
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Marxism is about freeing the individual, not suppressing it. To you Marxism looks the Soviet Union. To my generation Marxism looks like Star Trek. Obviously that's an oversimplification for very complex sociopolitical and economic concepts. But on a practical level the destruction of the middle class that most posters here decry has been lived by Millennials and Zoomers. We cannot own homes at the rates our parents did. We cannot have children at the rates our parents did. The widespread entry of women into the workforce has not increased a household's buying power or freedom, it has reduced the previous single earner standard to the same with double earners. Which brings with it even more costs and time burdens as previous hard domestic work has to be purchased or squeezed in. Our quality of life has gone down. The capitalist American utopia Boomers experienced has failed us. That money has all been siphoned out of our society by those at the very top. Now we all disagree on the reasons for these things and the solutions to address them. But wanting to use the power of our collective will embodied in our democratic constitutional republic to fight for our freedoms and improve our quality of life is not tyrannical or antithetical to American values. Any more than Teddy Roosevelt busting up the trusts was. Nor is it overly collectivist any more than Yellowstone and rest of our National Parks are(also Teddy). Or the highways and Post Office if you're more logistically minded. We all live as individuals in a society and all have to balance those interests. Tilting too much toward either extreme isn't healthy. And America doesn't currently have an issue with being too collectivist.
You have been mentioning the collective and now Star Trek. Are you borg?
 
Marxism is about freeing the individual, not suppressing it. To you Marxism looks the Soviet Union. To my generation Marxism looks like Star Trek. Obviously that's an oversimplification for very complex sociopolitical and economic concepts. But on a practical level the destruction of the middle class that most posters here decry has been lived by Millennials and Zoomers. We cannot own homes at the rates our parents did. We cannot have children at the rates our parents did. The widespread entry of women into the workforce has not increased a household's buying power or freedom, it has reduced the previous single earner standard to the same with double earners. Which brings with it even more costs and time burdens as previous hard domestic work has to be purchased or squeezed in. Our quality of life has gone down. The capitalist American utopia Boomers experienced has failed us. That money has all been siphoned out of our society by those at the very top. Now we all disagree on the reasons for these things and the solutions to address them. But wanting to use the power of our collective will embodied in our democratic constitutional republic to fight for our freedoms and improve our quality of life is not tyrannical or antithetical to American values. Any more than Teddy Roosevelt busting up the trusts was. Nor is it overly collectivist any more than Yellowstone and rest of our National Parks are(also Teddy). Or the highways and Post Office if you're more logistically minded. We all live as individuals in a society and all have to balance those interests. Tilting too much toward either extreme isn't healthy. And America doesn't currently have an issue with being too collectivist.
I dont know how many times it has to be explained. What you are crying about is not capitalism.

You cannot continue to say "that's not real socialism" every time one of the awful side effects of that extremely flawed system happens, but then not extend the same courtesy to a less flawed system.

Most of the issues you complain about are often spurred on by government intervention anyway. Can't afford school for example? Why and when exactly did tuition go up? You guys seem to have no problem with those tax free hedge funds known as endowments.
 
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4 more convicted! alll the MAGA morons gonna have a whole prison to themselves.
That's two separate trials that've both convicted Oath Keepers on seditious conspiracy. For a reality TV show host. What an interesting time in American history to be alive.
 
I dont know how many times it has to be explained. What you are crying about is not capitalism.

You cannot continue to say "that's not real socialism" every time one of the awful side effects of that extremely flawed system happens, but then not extend the same courtesy to a less flawed system.
I'm fine with calling it whatever you want if not socialism. Universal healthcare and UBI. Call it America First if you'll go for that more. Just change the direction of the country toward the people and away from the super rich.
 

Christopher Wray Touts ‘Collaboration’ Between Government And Private Sector At World Economic Forum Davos Summit​

The appointment of this man as FBI Director was a horrible mistake and we are paying for it. Who can forget The FBI collaborated with Twitter on its decision to censor the Hunter Biden laptop. When you allow the FBI to go down that road, they are no longer seeking truth or justice. They become an enemy of the people.

Wray At The WEC
 
No, it's that you don't know it, but go cherry pick it from a web site to look smart. A very liberal slanted website, mind you.
Of course I use the resources at my disposal. I link and post direct quotes from source documents all the time. I don't understand your critique other than taking issue with my links for bias which is a persistent issue with any source. Definitely ones posted here. But I obviously don't endorse every single thing a provided source may say, every page on Wiki. If linked it's generally for a specific reason to reference a checkable date or fact.
 
Like it was originally written and stayed until the 50s.
So when they later added a contest winning poem to the Statue of Liberty that mentions "your tired, your poor..." Why do you twist the purpose of Lady Liberty to include its late addition?

Example of you hypocrisy:

Added words to Pledge....BAD. Those were not there originally.

Added poem/plaque to Lady Liberty....you cry that says we should bring every refugee or illegal immigrant here because you read it on the Statue of Liberty.
 
Ran a quick errand with a friend. Ran into a friend of his. An old fashion German Baptist (Amish) farmer who has quite a few chickens....and know farmers who have thousands. He said he wouldn't be surprised if eggs hit $8 a dozen and chickens hit $25 (don't know if he meant whole chicken in a market). Said the price of chicken feed has gone thru the roof...and that's not chicken feed (get it?)
 
Ran a quick errand with a friend. Ran into a friend of his. An old fashion German Baptist (Amish) farmer who has quite a few chickens....and know farmers who have thousands. He said he wouldn't be surprised if eggs hit $8 a dozen and chickens hit $25 (don't know if he meant whole chicken in a market). Said the price of chicken feed has gone thru the roof...and that's not chicken feed (get it?)
Why is there suddenly a chicken and egg shortage?
 
Typical Lib. Switch the DT standard from bringing him up to mentioning; i.e., not allowed to respond to others bringing him up. Next it will be that I was thinking of him.
Well, were you?
Marxism is about freeing the individual, not suppressing it. To you Marxism looks the Soviet Union
Freeing the individual from what? From his obligation to at least make an attempt to care for himself? Marxism IS the Soviet Union. China. N. Korea. Venezuela...
To my generation Marxism looks like Star Trek. Obviously that's an oversimplification for very complex sociopolitical and economic concepts. But on a practical level the destruction of the middle class that most posters here decry has been lived by Millennials and Zoomers.
You must have seen a lot more Star Trek than I have. Most of what I've seen takes place on a ship where no one has the ability to leave and must adhere to every whim of a supreme commander. He decides who lives and dies and there can be no questions asked. Sounds like some countries we've heard of. By the way, a lot of that middle class moved to the upper class. Stragglers have always been left behind. Hence the name.
We cannot own homes at the rates our parents did. We cannot have children at the rates our parents did. The widespread entry of women into the workforce has not increased a household's buying power or freedom, it has reduced the previous single earner standard to the same with double earners. Which brings with it even more costs and time burdens as previous hard domestic work has to be purchased or squeezed in.
You cannot own homes at the same rate because you do not prioritize it like your parents did. Rather than work and save, you people want to spend and beg. If it takes both spouses working to pay the bills, then they cannot afford to have children. Budgeting is on the individual and it shouldn't be on society to pay for your party.
Our quality of life has gone down. The capitalist American utopia Boomers experienced has failed us. That money has all been siphoned out of our society by those at the very top.
Quality of life should be better than it's ever been. It is for me. I realize how lucky I am though, because I don't have to live in a cesspool city that was created and maintained by the same "progressive" beliefs that you spew. Let's say Musk has 60B laying around in cash that he can give away. Turns out to be $172 for every person in America. Since you are a globalist, that would be about $7.50 apiece for everyone on earth. Party!
Now we all disagree on the reasons for these things and the solutions to address them. But wanting to use the power of our collective will embodied in our democratic constitutional republic to fight for our freedoms and improve our quality of life is not tyrannical or antithetical to American values. Any more than Teddy Roosevelt busting up the trusts was. Nor is it overly collectivist any more than Yellowstone and rest of our National Parks are(also Teddy). Or the highways and Post Office if you're more logistically minded. We all live as individuals in a society and all have to balance those interests. Tilting too much toward either extreme isn't healthy. And America doesn't currently have an issue with being too collectivist.
When you say "we", who do you mean? Certainly you aren't including me in that set, are you? Everyone has a right to provide for themselves. Write a book or screenplay. Invent a board game. Make a better mousetrap. Or go to work for someone else who had the vision and was willing to take a risk and start a company. There are many ways to turn your time and energy, along with your knowledge, into something tangible. Like money.

There is no finite amount of money. There is plenty for anyone who wants to earn it. Some people are not poor just because some others are rich. They are poor because of choices they made. Your idea to take away choice doesn't clean up the problem. It just smears it around.
 
Why is there suddenly a chicken and egg shortage?
The main US supplier doesn't have a shortage. They are price gouging off fear and the knowledge that nobody will stop them. Their profit margin is up 40% this year. Their net profit YoY last quarter was up 600%. Their sales were up 110% so no supply problem. They have had 0 cases of avian flu. I get all my eggs, chicken, beef, pork from a local mid size farm. Their prices went up some this year but nothing crazy.
 
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Well, were you?

Freeing the individual from what? From his obligation to at least make an attempt to care for himself? Marxism IS the Soviet Union. China. N. Korea. Venezuela...

You must have seen a lot more Star Trek than I have. Most of what I've seen takes place on a ship where no one has the ability to leave and must adhere to every whim of a supreme commander. He decides who lives and dies and there can be no questions asked. Sounds like some countries we've heard of. By the way, a lot of that middle class moved to the upper class. Stragglers have always been left behind. Hence the name.

You cannot own homes at the same rate because you do not prioritize it like your parents did. Rather than work and save, you people want to spend and beg. If it takes both spouses working to pay the bills, then they cannot afford to have children. Budgeting is on the individual and it shouldn't be on society to pay for your party.

Quality of life should be better than it's ever been. It is for me. I realize how lucky I am though, because I don't have to live in a cesspool city that was created and maintained by the same "progressive" beliefs that you spew. Let's say Musk has 60B laying around in cash that he can give away. Turns out to be $172 for every person in America. Since you are a globalist, that would be about $7.50 apiece for everyone on earth. Party!

When you say "we", who do you mean? Certainly you aren't including me in that set, are you? Everyone has a right to provide for themselves. Write a book or screenplay. Invent a board game. Make a better mousetrap. Or go to work for someone else who had the vision and was willing to take a risk and start a company. There are many ways to turn your time and energy, along with your knowledge, into something tangible. Like money.

There is no finite amount of money. There is plenty for anyone who wants to earn it. Some people are not poor just because some others are rich. They are poor because of choices they made. Your idea to take away choice doesn't clean up the problem. It just smears it around.
How old are you? This is pure boomer denial. Yeah, our avocado toast and Netflix is why homes are unaffordable. Sure. Musk, Gates, and Bezos have nothing to do with it. You have no idea how out of touch you are, do you?

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How old are you? This is pure boomer denial. Yeah, our avocado toast and Netflix is why homes are unaffordable. Sure. Musk, Gates, and Bezos have nothing to do with it. You have no idea how out of touch you are, do you?

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Boomers are greedy assholes that refuse to step down from power and happily destroying future generations with their stupid decisions. Their greed and embrace of ass backwards Reaganomics has ****ed our economic systems.
 
There is no finite amount of money. There is plenty for anyone who wants to earn it. Some people are not poor just because some others are rich. They are poor because of choices they made. Your idea to take away choice doesn't clean up the problem. It just smears it around.
Poor people are not all poor because of their choices. Rich people are not all rich because of their choices. We do not live in your ideal meritocracy. You sound like more of a utopian idealist than y'all accuse me of being.
 
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