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Don't rely on what anyone says about it, including me. Read it for yourself. He's a white nationalist who wants all people of color forcibly removed from "white" lands and our traditional Christian European ethnic heritage upheld. He gives lots of statistics. Compare his ideals to yours and label him whatever you want for yourself.
He also does not like Christians. Obviously, you have labeled him what you want him to be or more importantly what you need him to be to fit your agenda.
 
Had a busy weekend so only now getting around to reading the manifesto. Most of it is stuff you see on here every day. He's just a proud American nationalist! Some snippets from his handy-dandy self-FAQ:

"I am simply a White man seeking to protect and serve my community, my people, my culture, and my race."

"Mass immigration will disenfranchise us, subvert our nations, destroy our communities, destroy our ethnic ties, destroy our cultures, destroy our peoples. Long before low fertility levels ever could. Thus, before we deal with the fertility rates, we must deal with both the invaders within our lands and the invaders that seek to enter our lands. We must crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil. It is not just a matter of our prosperity, but the very survival of our people."

"Why did you decide to carry out the attack? To show to the replacers that as long as the White man lives, our land will never be theirs and they will never be safe from us. To directly reduce immigration rates to European lands by intimidating and physically removing the replacers themselves. To intimidate the replacers already living on our lands to emigrate back to their home countries. To incite violence, retaliation and further divide between the European people and the replacers currently occupying European soil. To show the effect of direct action, lighting a path forward for those that wish to follow. A path for those that wish to free their ancestors lands from the replacers grasp and to be a beacon for those that wish to create a lasting culture, to tell them they are not alone. Most of all it was to spread awareness to my fellow Whites about the real problems the West is facing, and to encourage further attacks that will eventually start the war that will save the Western world, save the White race and allow for humanity to progress into more advanced civilizations."

"What do you want? We must ensure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

"Who do you represent? Millions of European and other ethno-nationalist peoples that wish to live in peace amongst their own people, living in their own lands, practicing their own traditions, and deciding the future of their own kind. Do these groups hold power/who are the people in these groups? The total number of people in these organizations is in the millions, the total number of groups in the thousands. People from every walk of life, in every place of employment and field but disproportionately employed in military services and public service occupations. Unsurprisingly ethno-nationalists and nationalists seek employment in areas that serve their nations and community."

"It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries."

"Did, or do you personally hate blacks? A black man or woman living in their homelands? No. A black man or woman choosing to invade our lands, live on our soil, live on government support and attack and replace our people? Yes, I dislike them. The only people I truly hate are the converts, those from our own people that turn their backs on their heritage, turn their backs on their cultures, turn their back on their traditions and become blood traitors to their own race. They are not completely hopeless however. I believe some can come back, so it’s important to welcome them when they are awoken instead of shaming and ostracizing them. Do you believe those you attacked were innocent? There is no non-white living on White lands that is innocent. Was the attack anti-immigration in origin? Yes, beyond all doubt, anti-immigration, anti-ethnic replacement and anti-cultural replacement."



And @jameslee32 already linked a tweet to this quote but I'm doing so directly from the source material and of my own accord. So no plagiarism accusations @Marleydogg lol.

"Are you a fascist? Yes, fascism is one of the only political ideologies that will unite Whites against the replacers. Since that is what I seek, calling me a fascist would be accurate."
All of Willy's accounts won't like this.
 
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He also does not like Christians. Obviously, you have labeled him what you want him to be or more importantly what you need him to be to fit your agenda.
Where did you get that? He talks about Christianity with reverence throughout as part of our white European ethnic heritage. He may not think he's personally worthy of grace but he's definitely a supporter.

"Are you a Christian? No. I do not ask God for salvation by faith, nor do I confess my sins to Him. I personally believe there is no afterlife. I do however believe in and practice many Christian values."

"Hard work ethics, religion based on Christianity, values in justice and law, emphasis on science and the scientific method, and need for the truth are just some major points of White culture....a white person who has turned away from his people and culture in favor of another will not be considered White."
 
Had a busy weekend so only now getting around to reading the manifesto. Most of it is stuff you see on here every day. He's just a proud American nationalist! Some snippets from his handy-dandy self-FAQ:

"I am simply a White man seeking to protect and serve my community, my people, my culture, and my race."

"Mass immigration will disenfranchise us, subvert our nations, destroy our communities, destroy our ethnic ties, destroy our cultures, destroy our peoples. Long before low fertility levels ever could. Thus, before we deal with the fertility rates, we must deal with both the invaders within our lands and the invaders that seek to enter our lands. We must crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil. It is not just a matter of our prosperity, but the very survival of our people."

"Why did you decide to carry out the attack? To show to the replacers that as long as the White man lives, our land will never be theirs and they will never be safe from us. To directly reduce immigration rates to European lands by intimidating and physically removing the replacers themselves. To intimidate the replacers already living on our lands to emigrate back to their home countries. To incite violence, retaliation and further divide between the European people and the replacers currently occupying European soil. To show the effect of direct action, lighting a path forward for those that wish to follow. A path for those that wish to free their ancestors lands from the replacers grasp and to be a beacon for those that wish to create a lasting culture, to tell them they are not alone. Most of all it was to spread awareness to my fellow Whites about the real problems the West is facing, and to encourage further attacks that will eventually start the war that will save the Western world, save the White race and allow for humanity to progress into more advanced civilizations."

"What do you want? We must ensure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

"Who do you represent? Millions of European and other ethno-nationalist peoples that wish to live in peace amongst their own people, living in their own lands, practicing their own traditions, and deciding the future of their own kind. Do these groups hold power/who are the people in these groups? The total number of people in these organizations is in the millions, the total number of groups in the thousands. People from every walk of life, in every place of employment and field but disproportionately employed in military services and public service occupations. Unsurprisingly ethno-nationalists and nationalists seek employment in areas that serve their nations and community."

"It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries."

"Did, or do you personally hate blacks? A black man or woman living in their homelands? No. A black man or woman choosing to invade our lands, live on our soil, live on government support and attack and replace our people? Yes, I dislike them. The only people I truly hate are the converts, those from our own people that turn their backs on their heritage, turn their backs on their cultures, turn their back on their traditions and become blood traitors to their own race. They are not completely hopeless however. I believe some can come back, so it’s important to welcome them when they are awoken instead of shaming and ostracizing them. Do you believe those you attacked were innocent? There is no non-white living on White lands that is innocent. Was the attack anti-immigration in origin? Yes, beyond all doubt, anti-immigration, anti-ethnic replacement and anti-cultural replacement."



And @jameslee32 already linked a tweet to this quote but I'm doing so directly from the source material and of my own accord. So no plagiarism accusations @Marleydogg lol.

"Are you a fascist? Yes, fascism is one of the only political ideologies that will unite Whites against the replacers. Since that is what I seek, calling me a fascist would be accurate."
And of course you would conflate all of that with what you perceive the lot of us think here. That's really how brainwashed you've allowed yourself to become. You've really been taught to believe that any white Republican that identifes as an America first Conservative is ultimately some raging Fascist white Supremacist neo-nazi, hell bent of protecting the white race. Such a shame you refuse to see reality.

You provided a lot of quotes from him that you conflated with us on here.

"I am simply a White man seeking to protect and serve my community, my people, my culture, and my race."

Reality is We are Americans seeking to serve and protect our Country, our citizens OF ALL RACES who are here LEGALLY, chose to come here LEGALLY, who are law-abiding, productive members of our society and don't come here just to leach off the Government teet. It has ZERO to do with "MuH, PrOtEcTiNg da WhYtE RaCe." The majority of us here love experiencing other cultures, be it through travel or simply eating at an ethnic restaurant or shopping at an ethnic store. We don't care the race or nationalities of our coworkers, our bosses our neighbors or whoever, so long as they fit that description.

How do you think allowing Illegal aliens from the third world (They are not immigrants unless they go through the proper legal channels) to pour across our border unfettered is helping our country? What good is it doing? is it helping our country financially by having to support them with all their basic needs? Is it helping our crime rates? Do you think the open border policy is preventing unwanted criminals, drug traffickers, cartels, terrorists, gang members, etc. from having easy access to the country? You do realize very many of the LEGAL immigrants who are here being productive and who came here the right way have strong resentment towards those coming here illegally, it undermines all they did to achieve their dreams. Name me ANY other country who allows foreigners to just pour into their country by the millions unfettered. Why are we the "world's humanitarians" when it comes to that? Why can't we at least have some sort of vetting process for who we let in here. If not wanting Illegals to pour into our country is a "racist" take then every other country in the world who actually control their borders is super racist. It has zero to do with their race and everything to do with they are breaking the laws of our country and being rewarded for it.

"what do you want"...
Reality: To ensure the existence of our Country, It's laws, it's citizens OF ALL RACES and to protect our children OF ALL RACES from indoctrination that fosters divisions along racial lines.

I could go on, but hopefully you get my point. You seem to think we all want to institute some form of Apartheid in the US, when quite honestly it's the far left liberals who seem to want that by championing all of this racial division and segregation of races.

Ironically, Every day I walk down the hallway to my office, I walk past a series of pictures, literally on the opposite side of my office wall, which are of drawings that Nelson Mandela did while he was in prison. These are very limited edition prints all hand signed and numbered by Nelson Mandela, it's forced me to educate myself on him somewhat, Especially where he championed forgiveness and unity as opposed to division and strife. I may not have agreed with him politically as he was a Socialist, borderline Communist, but he at least he sought for unity and equality, and when he took over he made sure those who he fought against were represented in his government, not punished.
 
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If you feel the need to read the manifesto, you are also a lunatic. He’s a way past fringe, mentally insane lunatic.

There are mentally insane people in this country, doing mentally insane things.
He's an 18 year old who got all of this from meme culture. Good ol' free speech.

"Where did you get your current beliefs? Mostly from the internet. There was little to no influence on my personal beliefs by people I met in person."


This one's personally aimed at y'all too. He predicted your responses and made a genuine appeal with a lighthearted joke any one of y'all would've made.

"Are you a fed/shill/mossad agent/false flag/patsy/imposter/antifa/“three letter agent glow so bright” ect? No, I don’t think so. Who knows maybe it’s the two shots of covid vaccine juice going through my bloodstream that’s really making me do this. It’s healthy to have skepticism of course, but don’t let your skepticism turn you away from people who support you."
 
Where did you get that? He talks about Christianity with reverence throughout as part of our white European ethnic heritage. He may not think he's personally worthy of grace but he's definitely a supporter.

"Are you a Christian? No. I do not ask God for salvation by faith, nor do I confess my sins to Him. I personally believe there is no afterlife. I do however believe in and practice many Christian values."

"Hard work ethics, religion based on Christianity, values in justice and law, emphasis on science and the scientific method, and need for the truth are just some major points of White culture....a white person who has turned away from his people and culture in favor of another will not be considered White."
You do what you normally do, pick and choose what parts you wish to show. Also, even what you posted does not align with reverence of Christianity. You interpret it the way you think not as it is.
 
He's an 18 year old who got all of this from meme culture. Good ol' free speech.

"Where did you get your current beliefs? Mostly from the internet. There was little to no influence on my personal beliefs by people I met in person."


This one's personally aimed at y'all too. He predicted your responses and made a genuine appeal with a lighthearted joke any one of y'all would've made.

"Are you a fed/shill/mossad agent/false flag/patsy/imposter/antifa/“three letter agent glow so bright” ect? No, I don’t think so. Who knows maybe it’s the two shots of covid vaccine juice going through my bloodstream that’s really making me do this. It’s healthy to have skepticism of course, but don’t let your skepticism turn you away from people who support you."
That last part actually suggest he is a left leaning loon given its obvious sarcasm and target of the right.
 
"what do you want"...
Reality: To ensure the existence of our Country, It's laws, it's citizens OF ALL RACES and to protect our children OF ALL RACES from indoctrination that fosters divisions along racial lines.
"About Jews “The elite”, “The 1%”, “The bankers”, “The capitalists”, (((them))), “The marxist’s” they all refer to the same group: THE JEWS!! When referring to “the Jews” I don’t mean all ethnic or religious Jews. Some can be actually decent, and make significant progress to humanity. However many of them are not. Many are born to exploit the goyim and exploit the Earth for capital gain. They control the mainstream media, many government positions, and international and global banking. They advocate for leftist ideology, and spread propaganda among the right. They spread their lies through all forms of media. They want us to divide ourselves by race, instead of goy and non-goy, like they already do. “Remember the 6 million goyim!” The real war I’m advocating for is the gentiles vs the Jews. We outnumber them 100x, and they are not strong by themselves. But by their Jewish ways, they turn us against each other. When you realize this you will know that the Jews are the biggest problem the Western world has ever had. They must be called out and killed, if they are lucky they will be exiled. We can not show any sympathy towards them again."

"For example, currently the Jews are spreading ideas such as Critical Race Theory and white shame/guilt to brainwash Whites into hating themselves and their people. For our self-preservation, the Jews must be removed from our Western civilizations, in any way possible."

"I should also mention that not all “Jews” are ethnic or religious Jews. Jeff Bezos for example is not a religious or ethnic Jew, but may be considered a Jew. All elitists and globalists may be considered a “Jew” simply because they act like one."
 
And you take a mass murdering psychos own words that he thinks he's sane as truth?
Of course not, I was just saying it's obviously much more complicated than just 'crazy gonna crazy LOL'. He was fed this ideology, he didn't develop it out of some psychosis.
 
good. that means our economy is strong again and consumers are spending out the ass.
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You do what you normally do, pick and choose what parts you wish to show. Also, even what you posted does not align with reverence of Christianity. You interpret it the way you think not as it is.
Search the thing yourself. He doesn't talk about Christianity negatively anywhere in it. Like I originally asked, what gave you that impression? He even specifically calls out Madonna(of all people lol) for being anti-Christian. Or this part talking about globalist NGOs could be directly lifted from one of Willy's posts.

"More often than not these NGOs hide their true intentions behind a facade of religiosity and only once you investigate into the leadership and governance of the NGO itself do you find the people running the show are in fact far from religious themselves and more often than not are actually atheistic cultural marxists using naive Christian Europeans to both labor and fund their own attempt at class and racial warfare."

Your talking points are his talking points.
 
"About Jews “The elite”, “The 1%”, “The bankers”, “The capitalists”, (((them))), “The marxist’s” they all refer to the same group: THE JEWS!! When referring to “the Jews” I don’t mean all ethnic or religious Jews. Some can be actually decent, and make significant progress to humanity. However many of them are not. Many are born to exploit the goyim and exploit the Earth for capital gain. They control the mainstream media, many government positions, and international and global banking. They advocate for leftist ideology, and spread propaganda among the right. They spread their lies through all forms of media. They want us to divide ourselves by race, instead of goy and non-goy, like they already do. “Remember the 6 million goyim!” The real war I’m advocating for is the gentiles vs the Jews. We outnumber them 100x, and they are not strong by themselves. But by their Jewish ways, they turn us against each other. When you realize this you will know that the Jews are the biggest problem the Western world has ever had. They must be called out and killed, if they are lucky they will be exiled. We can not show any sympathy towards them again."

"For example, currently the Jews are spreading ideas such as Critical Race Theory and white shame/guilt to brainwash Whites into hating themselves and their people. For our self-preservation, the Jews must be removed from our Western civilizations, in any way possible."

"I should also mention that not all “Jews” are ethnic or religious Jews. Jeff Bezos for example is not a religious or ethnic Jew, but may be considered a Jew. All elitists and globalists may be considered a “Jew” simply because they act like one."
I didn't say a damn word about Jewish people. Again, there you go trying to align whatever nonsense he was championing with us as a whole. It's very unbecoming of you. You can have some decent honest takes on certain things at times, It's why most of us keep you off ignore, but you're really going off the rails here if you generally see half of America as echoing that psychos sentiments.
 
I didn't say a damn word about Jewish people. Again, there you go trying to align whatever nonsense he was championing with us as a whole. It's very unbecoming of you. You can have some decent honest takes on certain things at times, It's why most of us keep you off ignore, but you're really going off the rails here if you generally see half of America as echoing that psychos sentiments.
Did you read the second and third quotes that explain the linking of the first? He means "globalists" and "marxists". Using CRT to press White Guilt on poor little white kids. It's exactly what y'all preach every day around here and what you specifically were saying in that post.
 
Of course not, I was just saying it's obviously much more complicated than just 'crazy gonna crazy LOL'. He was fed this ideology, he didn't develop it out of some psychosis.
He wasn't "Fed" that ideology, he developed it by absorbing crap from all sorts of fringe garbage online groups where other psychos hang out. He is 18. his brain and rational thinking ability is not fully developed yet. And tell us what he said it was that caused him to be lead down that rabbit hole.
 
Bunch of kooks. A shit website run by shithead brothers.

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That last part actually suggest he is a left leaning loon given its obvious sarcasm and target of the right.
It's literally in the section labeled "Answers to my people/supporters questions" as opposed to the next page which is "Answers to detractors and to those that oppose my beliefs/methods".
 
Did you read the second and third quotes that explain the linking of the first? He means "globalists" and "marxists". Using CRT to press White Guilt on poor little white kids. It's exactly what y'all preach every day around here and what you specifically were saying in that post.
So, you think crt is legit? You think it’s ok to pit one race against the other? You think little kids should be made to feel bad because they are white?
 
Man, what a surprise. Shooter had been evaluated for mental instability in the past after talking about carrying out a mass shooting.

So goddam predictable.

Dore95 wants you to think it’s about race. It’s really about the declining state of mental health in this country, and refusal to address the root causes of these travesties.

Black or white, insane people are committing these atrocities far too often. When the perpetrator is black it’s ignore, when the perpetrator is white the media plays it up more maximum political gain.

Not to mention the failures of what i presume were once law enforcement agencies, but now operate as the Gestapo arm of the Democrat establishment. The FBI and DOJ should be disbanded.

And you are going to start seeing more and more of these travesties play out because of mental health. We have a lot of people/young people who are struggling to figure it out. The pandemic, social media, inflation, and wars are taking them over the edge. I think it is going to get a lot worse.
 
So, you think crt is legit? You think it’s ok to pit one race against the other? You think little kids should be made to feel bad because they are white?
Yes to the first, no to the next two. That's a gross, and I would argue intentional, distortion of the issue. White Guilt is ridiculous. Acknowledging systemic inequality so you can attempt to take concrete steps to address it, isn't. I agree without action it's just virtue signaling. Whipping yourself with chains does nothing, scholarships do.

Regardless, as you're showing right now by defending them, the point was his talking points are your talking points.
 
Bunch of kooks. A shit website run by shithead brothers.

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Ben is a Partner at Geragos & Geragos, where he focuses on civil litigation and civil rights law. Most notably, Ben represented Colin Kaepernick in his highly-publicized lawsuit against the NFL and led a class action lawsuit against Billy MacFarland and FYRE festival. He put together the Kaepernick NIKE endorsement deal, widely regarded as one of the top marketing campaigns in history. Ben is also the co-founder of Kaepernick publishing, where he recently inked a deal with amazon for distribution. Ben was Variety’s 2019 Power of Law award recipient.








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Dude, @korykblack has 419 followers. lmfao
 
Yes to the first, no to the next two. That's a gross, and I would argue intentional, distortion of the issue. White Guilt is ridiculous. Acknowledging systemic inequality so you can attempt to take concrete steps to address it, isn't. I agree without action it's just virtue signaling. Whipping yourself with chains does nothing, scholarships do.

Regardless, as you're showing right now by defending them, the point was his talking points are your talking points.
CRT is veiled Marxism. As you’ve been told before. Marxism is a loser ideology for slackers.
 
Yes to the first, no to the next two. That's a gross, and I would argue intentional, distortion of the issue. White Guilt is ridiculous. Acknowledging systemic inequality so you can attempt to take concrete steps to address it, isn't. I agree without action it's just virtue signaling. Whipping yourself with chains does nothing, scholarships do.

Regardless, as you're showing right now by defending them, the point was his talking points are your talking points.
And there you go taking bits and pieces and making a broad based general assumption that because this one opinion of CRT aligns, that all of a sudden makes us kindred spirits with the guy. You know, Dion, you might actually say something I agree with at times on here, but that doesn't all of a sudden make me a Commie like you.
 
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