POLITICAL THREAD

[LowCountryCat]

If you can conflate supporting Ukraines of all stripes, including Nazis, over Putin, to saying I'm a Nazi, you're reasoning power is quite limited. I take if an American with a swastika tattooed on his head was attacked on the streets here, unprovoked, you wouldn't help him. Fine Christian you'd be.

Ya gotta love heathen leftists being critical of somebody's Christian behavior. As if they'd know the first thing about it.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Dude progressives in the House tried to get us to stop funding and training Azov in 2015 but Republicans stripped the amendment. Please learn about topics before posting on them.

Link?

 

[warrior-cat]

Dude progressives in the House tried to get us to stop funding and training Azov in 2015 but Republicans stripped the amendment. Please learn about topics before posting on them.

That has nothing to do with what you posted and still does not excuse the ignorant post. You simply stated that people did not know about them and now are complaining about them. Read and comprehend this time. It does not matter when you find out about something. It only matters how you respond, and people are simply saying there are some very bad people in Ukraine as well.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

Who wrote the books for her? Must have been a lot of people 'working together'.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I just think the focus should be on the tragedy itself

what do you mean by “just” focusing on “the tragedy itself?”

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Assuming that's directed at me, I am not blaming the media for this shooting.

I am blaming the media for using this shooting as a narrative to further the political goal of banning guns.

Again, it is hard to argue that the media’s and woke politicals’ obsession with race is not causally connected to a nut’s psycho ideations about his and others’ race.

 

[warrior-cat]

Had a busy weekend so only now getting around to reading the manifesto. Most of it is stuff you see on here every day. He's just a proud American nationalist! Some snippets from his handy-dandy self-FAQ:

"I am simply a White man seeking to protect and serve my community, my people, my culture, and my race."

"Mass immigration will disenfranchise us, subvert our nations, destroy our communities, destroy our ethnic ties, destroy our cultures, destroy our peoples. Long before low fertility levels ever could. Thus, before we deal with the fertility rates, we must deal with both the invaders within our lands and the invaders that seek to enter our lands. We must crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil. It is not just a matter of our prosperity, but the very survival of our people."

"Why did you decide to carry out the attack? To show to the replacers that as long as the White man lives, our land will never be theirs and they will never be safe from us. To directly reduce immigration rates to European lands by intimidating and physically removing the replacers themselves. To intimidate the replacers already living on our lands to emigrate back to their home countries. To incite violence, retaliation and further divide between the European people and the replacers currently occupying European soil. To show the effect of direct action, lighting a path forward for those that wish to follow. A path for those that wish to free their ancestors lands from the replacers grasp and to be a beacon for those that wish to create a lasting culture, to tell them they are not alone. Most of all it was to spread awareness to my fellow Whites about the real problems the West is facing, and to encourage further attacks that will eventually start the war that will save the Western world, save the White race and allow for humanity to progress into more advanced civilizations."

"What do you want? We must ensure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

"Who do you represent? Millions of European and other ethno-nationalist peoples that wish to live in peace amongst their own people, living in their own lands, practicing their own traditions, and deciding the future of their own kind. Do these groups hold power/who are the people in these groups? The total number of people in these organizations is in the millions, the total number of groups in the thousands. People from every walk of life, in every place of employment and field but disproportionately employed in military services and public service occupations. Unsurprisingly ethno-nationalists and nationalists seek employment in areas that serve their nations and community."

"It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries."

"Did, or do you personally hate blacks? A black man or woman living in their homelands? No. A black man or woman choosing to invade our lands, live on our soil, live on government support and attack and replace our people? Yes, I dislike them. The only people I truly hate are the converts, those from our own people that turn their backs on their heritage, turn their backs on their cultures, turn their back on their traditions and become blood traitors to their own race. They are not completely hopeless however. I believe some can come back, so it’s important to welcome them when they are awoken instead of shaming and ostracizing them. Do you believe those you attacked were innocent? There is no non-white living on White lands that is innocent. Was the attack anti-immigration in origin? Yes, beyond all doubt, anti-immigration, anti-ethnic replacement and anti-cultural replacement."



And @jameslee32 already linked a tweet to this quote but I'm doing so directly from the source material and of my own accord. So no plagiarism accusations @Marleydogg lol.

"Are you a fascist? Yes, fascism is one of the only political ideologies that will unite Whites against the replacers. Since that is what I seek, calling me a fascist would be accurate."

But you conveniently leave out the part where he says he is a left leaning socialist too.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Lol. Clown world

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Wow. Just wow.

 

[Dionysus444]

Link?

Here’s a news article from the time on it.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

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Summer of Rage vs Summer of Life.

again, I choose life.

 

[Dionysus444]

That has nothing to do with what you posted and still does not excuse the ignorant post. You simply stated that people did not know about them and now are complaining about them. Read and comprehend this time. It does not matter when you find out about something. It only matters how you respond, and people are simply saying there are some very bad people in Ukraine as well.

Yeah. Republicans knew they were Nazis and funded and trained them anyway. That’s how they responded.

 

[warrior-cat]

Yeah. Republicans knew they were Nazis and funded and trained them anyway. That’s how they responded.

Always deflecting when the truth comes out. Bad people are bad people regardless of the party. It's just you guys raised the bar several levels.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Again, it is hard to argue that the media’s and woke politicals’ obsession with race is not causally connected to a nut’s psycho ideations about his and others’ race.

I definitely think that contributes as does the incessant media coverage of these events. There are studies out there that clearly show there is a reason these things happen in clusters; and a reason they massively increased since columbine. Same effect happens when a suicide is highly publicized. There are tons of people with mental health issues and this publicity triggers a psychotic fantasy (can't recall the name).

The studies are conclusive and aren't even secret. The msm knows them but don't care. It's about driving a narrative and damn the rest.

That said, I stop short of saying msm "caused" it. I definitely think they're a contributing factor but not the cause. The cause is the underlying mental health issues that go untreated. Here imo a secondary cause is the failure of law enforcement because there was endless red flags that should've prevented this from ever getting off the ground

 

[SDC888]

In an odd but true way, the Woke extremists who make everything about race help to create these nuts.

It's a part of their strategy.

 

[SDC888]

Yeah. Republicans knew they were Nazis and funded and trained them anyway. That’s how they responded.

Yes, we knew that... people knew that.

They also knew Democrats did too.

 

[Dionysus444]

I definitely think that contributes as does the incessant media coverage of these events. There are studies out there that clearly show there is a reason these things happen in clusters; and a reason they massively increased since columbine. Same effect happens when a suicide is highly publicized. There are tons of people with mental health issues and this publicity triggers a psychotic fantasy (can't recall the name).

The studies are conclusive and aren't even secret. The msm knows them but don't care. It's about driving a narrative and damn the rest.

That said, I stop short of saying msm "caused" it. I definitely think they're a contributing factor but not the cause. The cause is the underlying mental health issues that go untreated. Here imo a secondary cause is the failure of law enforcement because there was endless red flags that should've prevented this from ever getting off the ground

"I was never diagnosed with a mental disability or disorder, and I believe myself to be perfectly sane."

 

[bigblueinsanity]

"I was never diagnosed with a mental disability or disorder, and I believe myself to be perfectly sane."

The vast majority of people suffering from mental illness don't realize it. That's why I specifically said "untreated".

But yes we should just reverse any diagnosis if the crazy person says they aren't crazy. Next up releasing any convicted felon or pretrial detainee because they say they aren't guilty.

 

[Dionysus444]

But you conveniently leave out the part where he says he is a left leaning socialist too.

He doesn't say that warrior, have you read it? Here're direct quotes:

"Are you a fascist? Yes, fascism is one of the only political ideologies that will unite Whites against the replacers. Since that is what I seek, calling me a fascist would be accurate.

Are you a white supremacist? Yes, I would call myself a white supremacist, afterall, which race is responsible for the world we live in today? I believe the White race is superior in the brain to all other races.

Are you a neo-nazi? I support neo-nazism but I am not a member of any neo-nazi groups, you decide what that makes me.

Are you “right wing”? Depending on the definition, sure.

Are you “left wing”? Depending on the definition, sure.

Are you a socialist? Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? It depends on who those workers are, their intentions, who currently owns the means of production, their intentions and who currently owns the state, and their intentions."

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Had a busy weekend so only now getting around to reading the manifesto. Most of it is stuff you see on here every day. He's just a proud American nationalist! Some snippets from his handy-dandy self-FAQ:

"I am simply a White man seeking to protect and serve my community, my people, my culture, and my race."

"Mass immigration will disenfranchise us, subvert our nations, destroy our communities, destroy our ethnic ties, destroy our cultures, destroy our peoples. Long before low fertility levels ever could. Thus, before we deal with the fertility rates, we must deal with both the invaders within our lands and the invaders that seek to enter our lands. We must crush immigration and deport those invaders already living on our soil. It is not just a matter of our prosperity, but the very survival of our people."

"Why did you decide to carry out the attack? To show to the replacers that as long as the White man lives, our land will never be theirs and they will never be safe from us. To directly reduce immigration rates to European lands by intimidating and physically removing the replacers themselves. To intimidate the replacers already living on our lands to emigrate back to their home countries. To incite violence, retaliation and further divide between the European people and the replacers currently occupying European soil. To show the effect of direct action, lighting a path forward for those that wish to follow. A path for those that wish to free their ancestors lands from the replacers grasp and to be a beacon for those that wish to create a lasting culture, to tell them they are not alone. Most of all it was to spread awareness to my fellow Whites about the real problems the West is facing, and to encourage further attacks that will eventually start the war that will save the Western world, save the White race and allow for humanity to progress into more advanced civilizations."

"What do you want? We must ensure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

"Who do you represent? Millions of European and other ethno-nationalist peoples that wish to live in peace amongst their own people, living in their own lands, practicing their own traditions, and deciding the future of their own kind. Do these groups hold power/who are the people in these groups? The total number of people in these organizations is in the millions, the total number of groups in the thousands. People from every walk of life, in every place of employment and field but disproportionately employed in military services and public service occupations. Unsurprisingly ethno-nationalists and nationalists seek employment in areas that serve their nations and community."

"It would have eased me if I knew all the blacks I would be killing were criminals or future criminals, but then I realized all black people are replacers just by existing in White countries."

"Did, or do you personally hate blacks? A black man or woman living in their homelands? No. A black man or woman choosing to invade our lands, live on our soil, live on government support and attack and replace our people? Yes, I dislike them. The only people I truly hate are the converts, those from our own people that turn their backs on their heritage, turn their backs on their cultures, turn their back on their traditions and become blood traitors to their own race. They are not completely hopeless however. I believe some can come back, so it’s important to welcome them when they are awoken instead of shaming and ostracizing them. Do you believe those you attacked were innocent? There is no non-white living on White lands that is innocent. Was the attack anti-immigration in origin? Yes, beyond all doubt, anti-immigration, anti-ethnic replacement and anti-cultural replacement."



And @jameslee32 already linked a tweet to this quote but I'm doing so directly from the source material and of my own accord. So no plagiarism accusations @Marleydogg lol.

"Are you a fascist? Yes, fascism is one of the only political ideologies that will unite Whites against the replacers. Since that is what I seek, calling me a fascist would be accurate."

Yeah...and what's this have to do with Republicans...which is the disgusting thing you always do to try to politically tie this in.

As always the govt had an a heads up on the guy...did nothing. And of course gun laws were so strict too no one could have one there for defense- that's why he picked it.

And of course per usual...no calling the subway guy a domestic terrorist or racist or discussion of his racist rants on YouTube which werent flagged (I didn't see you posting those transcripts) no presidential visits to Wisconsin because a "suv" did it and oddly the guy was brought in alive which I was told never happens. No coverage of the DC snipers a couple weeks ago who left a manifesto, nothing on the blm who shot a mayor candidate in Louisville who was bailed out the same day which i was told only happens for White ppl. No mention of the. constant anti Asian crimes that occur. There's a reason no one will take any of your points seriously on this...

Just disgusting behavior by the left to stand on the Graves of the dead for politics.

 

[Dionysus444]

Yeah...and what's this have to do with Republicans...which is the disgusting thing you always do to try to politically tie this in.

As always the govt had an a heads up on the guy...did nothing. And of course gun laws were so strict too no one could have one there for defense- that's why he picked it.

And of course per usual...no calling the subway guy a domestic terrorist or racist or discussion of his racist rants on YouTube which werent flagged, no presidential visits to Wisconsin because a "suv" did it and oddly the guy was brought in alive which I was told never happens. No coverage of the DC snipers a couple weeks ago who left a manifesto, nothing on the blm who shot a mayor candidate in Louisville who was bailed out the same day which i was told only happens for White ppl.

Just disgusting behavior by the left to stand on the Graves of the dead for politics.

The security guard was armed and shot him in the chest. He was wearing armor.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Hahaha but yes.... continue to believe every word

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Because they know @jameslee32 amd @Dionysus444 will fall for it

 

[warrior-cat]

He doesn't say that warrior, have you read it? Here're direct quotes:

"Are you a fascist? Yes, fascism is one of the only political ideologies that will unite Whites against the replacers. Since that is what I seek, calling me a fascist would be accurate.

Are you a white supremacist? Yes, I would call myself a white supremacist, afterall, which race is responsible for the world we live in today? I believe the White race is superior in the brain to all other races.

Are you a neo-nazi? I support neo-nazism but I am not a member of any neo-nazi groups, you decide what that makes me.

Are you “right wing”? Depending on the definition, sure.

Are you “left wing”? Depending on the definition, sure.

Are you a socialist? Depending on the definition. Worker ownership of the means of production? It depends on who those workers are, their intentions, who currently owns the means of production, their intentions and who currently owns the state, and their intentions."

He did say he was a left wing authoritarian and that has not been denied by anyone. Snippets of the manifesto have been quoted and that was one of them.

 

[AustinTXCat]

So are you guys going to freak out now that Trump has started down the slippery slope of gun control? Now he wants your ar-15 mods, later he wants all your ar-15s. Now he wants only 21+ to buy guns, later he only wants 50+ to buy guns. He says he wants to revamp background checks, what he really wants is an excuse to build a national gun database. Those are so dumb it's funny but litteraly what you nuts say anytime a Dem makes those proposals.

 

[jameslee32]

 

[Dionysus444]

He did say he was a left wing authoritarian and that has not been denied by anyone. Snippets of the manifesto have been quoted and that was one of them.

No, he doesn't self-describe as that like he does the white supremacist stuff. He says it when talking about where he fell on the political compass test, which is a quiz you can do online. He also gives his MBTI type along with it from another online quiz. It's being misrepresented. Fascism is consistently the ideology he most closely espouses throughout the entirety. Hence the summarizing quotes.

 

[jameslee32]

What’s your point? Lots of who are kids?

What do Rittenhouse and Kaepernick have anything to do with this?

Demos most easily influenced.

 

[warrior-cat]

No, he doesn't self-describe as that like he does the white supremacist stuff. He says it when talking about where he fell on the political compass test, which is a quiz you can do online. He also gives his MBTI type along with it from another online quiz. It's being misrepresented. Fascism is consistently the ideology he most closely espouses throughout the entirety. Hence the summarizing quotes.

False, the misrepresentation is being done by those who don't want it to be true.

Plus, fascism is what the left has been espousing for many years now. They cry about it being what the right is all along pushing the agendas supporting the actions used by fascist.

 

[vhcat70]

Unfortunately that raiding started years ago. SCOTUS decision in the Clinton era striking down line item veto was the beginning of the end. At least before, some of the nonsense stuff could be lined out. Now it all goes because no one wants the optics of voting against better equipment for the troops even though that's just 1 of 100 items with the other 99 being millions for some donor to study blackberries.

Exactly. People go on about what we may spend for Ukraine while ignoring the other $6.5T they have nothing to say about. It's the hit piece of the moment & mindlessness on everything else.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Can someone name a journalist off the top of their head besides Glenn Greenwald? I can’t think of a single one.

 

[vhcat70]

What if your nazi buddy were attacking people on the street and some dudes attacked the nazi's? I'd let them whoop his ass because the nazi started it and had it coming.

I don't have any Nazi buddies, but I agree with you.

 

[SDC888]

False, the misrepresentation is being done by those who don't want it to be true.

Plus, fascism is what the left has been espousing for many years now. They cry about it being what the right is all along pushing the agendas supporting the actions used by fascist.

It's all collectivist nonsense, unAmerican to its core.

He believed everything Dion does; he just swallowed one extra poison pill, the race pill.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Exactly. People go on about what we may spend for Ukraine while ignoring the other $6.5T they have nothing to say about. It's the hit piece of the moment & mindlessness on everything else.

Because they’re currently authorizing that waste in Ukraine, you dunce. The other spending is bullshit too.

 

[vhcat70]

Ya gotta love heathen leftists being critical of somebody's Christian behavior. As if they'd know the first thing about it.

Off your meds again.

 

[Dionysus444]

False, the misrepresentation is being done by those who don't want it to be true.

Plus, fascism is what the left has been espousing for many years now. They cry about it being what the right is all along pushing the agendas supporting the actions used by fascist.

Don't rely on what anyone says about it, including me. Read it for yourself. He's a white nationalist who wants all people of color forcibly removed from "white" lands and our traditional Christian European ethnic heritage upheld. He gives lots of statistics. Compare his ideals to yours and label him whatever you want for yourself.

 

[Bill Derington]

Demos most easily influenced.

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Who is influenced by it, and what does what Nugent said got anything to do with the Buffalo shooter?

Who is being influenced in believing there’s a huge group of racists in this country?
How can you not see that the left called Trump and his supporters fascists for 4 years leads to anger and resentment?

The democrats can’t run on policy, so they run on stirring up emotion, and it’s tearing the country apart.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

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Uh, this might make me a Trump supporter.

 

[vhcat70]

Because they’re currently authorizing that waste in Ukraine, you dunce. The other spending is bullshit too.

Another Putin-loving robot.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Antifa and Putin have that in common.