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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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I want to apologize for my previous blue team on blue team violence, friend. I went back and read your posts and like the cut of your jib despite whatever differences of opinion we may have on political hot takes. I was way too harsh with my initial post. Please forgive my hubris, I spend too much time with the Trumpets and it rubs off. Welcome to the thread, post early and often.

You (plural) will never figure out just how dumb you actually are.

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Not a fan of Nationalism

Point 1 screams it

America has been great but it has also been horrible and both should be taught in schools. The whole immigration problem today can be rooted in our foreign policy actions overthrowing Central and South American governments.

Point 5 is laughable because the "market" as Trump likes to use does better under Democrat leadership at least since Reagan.

The GOP talk about helping the economy but lowering taxes only hurt it. Less revenue only increases the debt of this nation. Cutting government, a potential outcome of lowering taxes, can only pay for so much.

Think about someone wanting to get out of debt. Sure, cutting spending may help them get out of it but what if it doesn't, then what? Finding another job that pays more might be the only solution.

I.E. increasing revenue through raising taxes.

Point 7 is Big Brother which is funny because Scott uses the phrase Orwellian. The GOP is literally doing point 7. Look up gerrymandering. On the flip side "voter rights" is just giving everyone an easier opportunity to vote.

All Rick Scott is doing is pandering to the base.

Not going to say anything else because the people here are too far gone.

Update: the part about raising taxes was deleted because the plan set by RS says

" All Americans should pay some income tax to have skin in the game, even if a small amount. Currently over half of Americans pay no income tax"

If this pertains to those making $$$ I'd be for it. If it pertains to those struggling to get by then not so much.
 
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Not a fan of Nationalism

Point 1 screams it

America has been great but it has also been horrible and both should be taught in schools. The whole immigration problem today can be rooted in our foreign policy actions overthrowing Central and South American governments.

Point 5 is laughable because the "market" as Trump likes to use does better under Democrat leadership at least since Reagan.

The GOP talk about helping the economy but lowering taxes only hurt it. Less revenue only increases the debt of this nation. Cutting government, a potential outcome of lowering taxes, can only pay for so much.

Think about someone wanting to get out of debt. Sure, cutting spending may help them get out of it but what if it doesn't, then what? Finding another job that pays more might be the only solution.

I.E. increasing revenue through raising taxes.

Point 7 is Big Brother which is funny because Scott uses the phrase Orwellian. The GOP is literally doing point 7. Look up gerrymandering. On the flip side "voter rights" is just giving everyone an easier opportunity to vote.

All Rick Scott is doing is pandering to the base. There's even a point on his agenda about raising taxes on the lowest tax bracket which is funny because that's the class who cannot afford something like that. He thinks that's fine but raising taxes on people like him, which would provide more money to the local governments he talks about, is a "radical left idea."

Not going to say anything else because the people here are too far gone.

You hate America, so no one takes you seriously
 
Lmao. That has to be some of the dumbest attempt at examples ever posted on this thread. Over time species drift enough to become what we consider new species. Mammals do this in time periods beyond the comprehension of most humans, we think to small. Bugs, fish, some birds do this in relatively observable time periods. 100s of thousands of species have come and gone over earth's history. You may want to visit a few natural history museums.
Neanderthals figured out how to harness the power of sticks and rocks and go beyond simple sounds. Thousands of years later cavemen learned to harness fire, grow crops and write down some of those complex sounds. Eventually they dominated the earth with this power. What was the catalyst that created hominids? We don't know, all we can do is abstract guesses based on fossil records. But we do know that we come from Africa, not the middle east.
Will humans ever become a new species? Outside of unimaginable climate change or natural catastrophe i dont imagine it would happen on earth before we went extinct. With space travel and many generations it's certainly possible. Spending a few hundred years in vastly different radiation and gravities will definitely change us. In 5000 years earth will be covered in completely different species than it has now. And Christianity will be long forgotten.
There is ZERO EVIDENCE that a single species evolved into another. There is NO evolutionist that can show where this happened - they are all guessing. Even YOU admit you are guessing.

Actually, the fossil records DISPROVE evolution.

The gaps in the fossil record are huge and systematic. This is evidence against incremental evolution via mutation and natural selection - just as you claim absence of evidence is proof there is no God, so your own logic is used against you to show that lack of evidence in THIS case actually DOES disprove evolution, as scientific evidence is REQUIRED to validate a theory. There is no postulated mechanism for creatures to evolve over these chasms. Really, truly — there is no scientific theory at all to account for the hopeless gaps of a naturalistic worldview.

An honest assessment of evolution would lead one to the conclusion that fossils should show a near-infinite series of creatures from simple to complex. If fossils are abundant in nature, then there should be no problem in finding a multitude of transitional forms for all of the animal and plant life on the earth today. In fact, many evolutionists admit the abundance – the enormous wealth – of fossils of creatures that once lived.

So WHERE ARE THE TRANSITIONAL FORMS?


What is embarrassing is that the rule – not the exception – is that between the various classes of animals, both living and dead, are huge gaps. The transitional forms are absent. We regularly see the latest news story describing the latest potential “missing link” in the enigma of human evolution. But nothing ever gets settled. The advocates of human evolution can’t agree among themselves, not to mention present a case that would be compelling at all to a dispassionate observer.

The famous evolutionary paleontologist, Niles Eldridge, has admitted, “We paleontologists have said that the history of life supports (the idea of gradual evolutionary change), all the while knowing it does not.” Eldridge observes that those paleontologists who report that the data are inconsistent with the “theory” are relegated to the lunatic fringe of the community.

Why are evolutionists so tenacious in the face of an unsupportable “theory”? Because they are committed to naturalistic materialism. They won’t accept the possibility that God exists or that anything cannot be explained by natural physical processes.

Some evolutionists have given up on the idea of the random mutation / natural selection neo-Darwinian “theory” and suggested the idea of “punctuated equilibrium” in a desperate attempt to explain the fossil gaps. The idea is that when evolution occurred, lots of genes mutated very quickly and within a very few generations a new creature was “born.” The mathematics of this approach are so frightening, however, that some traditional evolutionists suspect that “punctuated equilibrium” was actually a joke when it was first introduced.
 
Anything to deflect from Biden, the worst president since Obama. Btw, NBC news is liberal propaganda. The more you know….
Remember when the Democrats tweeted out pictures of George Bush right after 9-11 calling him weak then praising Osama Bin Laden for being a saavy genius??? Remember Dems blaming Bush for 9-11 and saying it wouldn't happen if they were in charge?
Remember Dems saying they understood Bin Laden and how it made sense to attack a democratic country?
Yeah, I don't remember that either.
Btw.. The Russians love what Trump and Tucker Carlson have to say on their state tv.
 
There is ZERO EVIDENCE that a single species evolved into another. There is NO evolutionist that can show where this happened - they are all guessing. Even YOU admit you are guessing.

Actually, the fossil records DISPROVE evolution.

The gaps in the fossil record are huge and systematic. This is evidence against incremental evolution via mutation and natural selection - just as you claim absence of evidence is proof there is no God, so your own logic is used against you to show that lack of evidence in THIS case actually DOES disprove evolution, as scientific evidence is REQUIRED to validate a theory. There is no postulated mechanism for creatures to evolve over these chasms. Really, truly — there is no scientific theory at all to account for the hopeless gaps of a naturalistic worldview.

An honest assessment of evolution would lead one to the conclusion that fossils should show a near-infinite series of creatures from simple to complex. If fossils are abundant in nature, then there should be no problem in finding a multitude of transitional forms for all of the animal and plant life on the earth today. In fact, many evolutionists admit the abundance – the enormous wealth – of fossils of creatures that once lived.

So WHERE ARE THE TRANSITIONAL FORMS?


What is embarrassing is that the rule – not the exception – is that between the various classes of animals, both living and dead, are huge gaps. The transitional forms are absent. We regularly see the latest news story describing the latest potential “missing link” in the enigma of human evolution. But nothing ever gets settled. The advocates of human evolution can’t agree among themselves, not to mention present a case that would be compelling at all to a dispassionate observer.

The famous evolutionary paleontologist, Niles Eldridge, has admitted, “We paleontologists have said that the history of life supports (the idea of gradual evolutionary change), all the while knowing it does not.” Eldridge observes that those paleontologists who report that the data are inconsistent with the “theory” are relegated to the lunatic fringe of the community.

Why are evolutionists so tenacious in the face of an unsupportable “theory”? Because they are committed to naturalistic materialism. They won’t accept the possibility that God exists or that anything cannot be explained by natural physical processes.

Some evolutionists have given up on the idea of the random mutation / natural selection neo-Darwinian “theory” and suggested the idea of “punctuated equilibrium” in a desperate attempt to explain the fossil gaps. The idea is that when evolution occurred, lots of genes mutated very quickly and within a very few generations a new creature was “born.” The mathematics of this approach are so frightening, however, that some traditional evolutionists suspect that “punctuated equilibrium” was actually a joke when it was first introduced.
This explains a lot about you and your complete inability to process information.
 
Remember when the Democrats tweeted out pictures of George Bush right after 9-11 calling him weak then praising Osama Bin Laden for being a saavy genius??? Remember Dems blaming Bush for 9-11 and saying it wouldn't happen if they were in charge?
Remember Dems saying they understood Bin Laden and how it made sense to attack a democratic country?
Yeah, I don't remember that either.
Btw.. The Russians love what Trump and Tucker Carlson have to say on their state tv.

I hate Bush. He's the same group as Obama, Clinton, and Biden.
 
Where scripturally or anywhere other than your personal opinion does it say that aborted babies' souls have already proven their worth? They weren't "given free will to do what we chose to do and the time to figure it out." That's such a logical inconsistency that you yourself had to bring it up.
Do you understand "My opinion"? Not inconsistent given also that God said I knew you before you were born. Perhaps you should read the Bible and understand it more.
 
We've answered these questions. No one has ever said two whales can mate and produce a cat. What did they teach you about evolution and natural selection in school? This is really basic biology. Look at the entire fossil record. We know much of the history of life. You can look at these things yourself, they're real.
That IS the modern theory of evolution. In short, nothing exploded 18-20 billion years ago, 6ish billion years ago, the earth cooled. Storms created water and the first life was evolved from a rock.

If that is the theory, and we ALL came from the same initial cell, then the plants, the animals and yes, the humans are all descendants from that initial cell. I.E. roses, giraffes, whales, insects all have one ancestor.

That is the theory of evolution.

Now, fossils are real. Agree. How they are interpreted amd dated. Wrong. There are too many gaps. Also, just because we find a dino fossil, we do not know if it mated. I could give more examples for hours, but the point is the modern theory of evolution is a religion. Pure and simple.

My belief is a religion too. But im honest and courageous enough to admit it. And taxpayers are NOT indoctrinating kids w my religion. But they are for "evolution".
 
What about all those masses who lived and died never hearing the gospel of Christ? Are they doomed as I am?
No, they will have the opportunity in the millennium (1000 years) during that time to accept Jesus or Satan. Look up Biblical millennium where Jesus reigns for a thousand years and who will be there.

You are doomed of your own choosing if that is your choice.
 
That IS the modern theory of evolution. In short, nothing exploded 18-20 billion years ago, 6ish billion years ago, the earth cooled. Storms created water and the first life was evolved from a rock.

If that is the theory, and we ALL came from the same initial cell, then the plants, the animals and yes, the humans are all descendants from that initial cell. I.E. roses, giraffes, whales, insects all have one ancestor.

That is the theory of evolution.

Now, fossils are real. Agree. How they are interpreted amd dated. Wrong. There are too many gaps. Also, just because we find a dino fossil, we do not know if it mated. I could give more examples for hours, but the point is the modern theory of evolution is a religion. Pure and simple.

My belief is a religion too. But im honest and courageous enough to admit it. And taxpayers are NOT indoctrinating kids w my religion. But they are for "evolution".
The fact that you are utterly and completely incapable of understanding something does not bear on the subject you utterly and completely do not understand. You did manage to name yourself well, though.
 
Lmao. That has to be some of the dumbest attempt at examples ever posted on this thread. Over time species drift enough to become what we consider new species. Mammals do this in time periods beyond the comprehension of most humans, we think to small. Bugs, fish, some birds do this in relatively observable time periods. 100s of thousands of species have come and gone over earth's history. You may want to visit a few natural history museums.
Neanderthals figured out how to harness the power of sticks and rocks and go beyond simple sounds. Thousands of years later cavemen learned to harness fire, grow crops and write down some of those complex sounds. Eventually they dominated the earth with this power. What was the catalyst that created hominids? We don't know, all we can do is abstract guesses based on fossil records. But we do know that we come from Africa, not the middle east.
Will humans ever become a new species? Outside of unimaginable climate change or natural catastrophe i dont imagine it would happen on earth before we went extinct. With space travel and many generations it's certainly possible. Spending a few hundred years in vastly different radiation and gravities will definitely change us. In 5000 years earth will be covered in completely different species than it has now. And Christianity will be long forgotten.
BS . Name ONE time ANYONE has observed two animals mating and it produced a new species? Even Dion admits that is basic biology. They will always produce an offspring of the same kind with a variation, but never a new species.

This destroys your religion of macro-evolution.
 
Not a fan of Nationalism
Nationalism/tribalism is the default human setting. It matters not whether you are a fan or not.
Point 5 is laughable because the "market" as Trump likes to use does better under Democrat leadership at least since Reagan.
The Dem President have definitely benefitted from market bubbles.
 
Kind of funny you should mention that. My daughter (who lives in Florida) and her husband were talking to me the other day about getting into the fertilizer business through the "chicken farms" in their area. They have a good friend in the business. I suggested they volunteer to help him on a few runs to get the "smell" of the business.
 
That IS the modern theory of evolution. In short, nothing exploded 18-20 billion years ago, 6ish billion years ago, the earth cooled. Storms created water and the first life was evolved from a rock.

If that is the theory, and we ALL came from the same initial cell, then the plants, the animals and yes, the humans are all descendants from that initial cell. I.E. roses, giraffes, whales, insects all have one ancestor.

That is the theory of evolution.

Now, fossils are real. Agree. How they are interpreted amd dated. Wrong. There are too many gaps.

When you say that last part how can you say the way fossils are interpreted and dated are wrong? Are you a geologist? Paleontologist?

It would be like me being arrogant enough to challenge @warrior-cat on anything in the Bible just because I've read it a few times.

It would be hubristic on my end to do that because he's knowledgeable about it and I'm not.

Just like it would be the same for you to say how fossils are interpreted or dated are wrong. Assuming you're not either of those professions mentioned above.
 
“to be thrown into the lake of fire and to be turned to ashes from within instantaneously forever. That is where the forever comes from.”

Not sure what this means so I’ll just throw this out there. The rich man in Hell in the gospels is not a parable. Torment in Hell is not a one time thing but eternal.

Anyone telling you some scriptures haven’t been interpreted correctly should be looked at with a bit of questioning. Scripture interprets scripture.
In Ezekiel 28:16-19, Satan is promised that he will be destroyed from within and turned to ashes. Once a soul is turned to ashes, it is finished. Satan can cause harm to your body but only God can destroy your soul.

There are theologians that are and have been looking into translations for a long time now trying to understand the bible more. I happen to believe as we delve more into the actual Hebrew, Chaldean, or Greek we will have a better understanding of the word.

Example: When translated correctly, "Thou shalt not kill" Is "Thou shalt not murder" there is a difference.
 
There is lots of discussion over the last century with respect to various candidates for our great-great- . . . -grandpa. Ramapithecus, Australopithecus (“A”), A. africanus, A. robustus, Homo habilus, Java man, Peking man, Neandertals, Cro magnons – there is a huge and controversial list, and alternative proposed evolutionary trees.

But here’s the problem: Fossils that are indistinguishble from modern humans have been dated as far as 4.5 million years old. (These are evolutionary dates – there are big problems with dating methods, but that’s a whole subject unto itself. Here we’re just going to play within the evolutionary sandbox and use their own evidence against them.) These ancient dates go well beyond the dates corresponding to our ancestors! Oops! Furthermore, there are lots of cases of fossils that “belong” in different parts of the “tree” that have been found in the same geographic and geological layers. This is conclusive evidence against the “theory.”

Here’s an extremely short list of embarrassing discoveries made by evolutionists regarding their supposed origin of man:

— Modern apes have simply “sprung out of nowhere.” There are no evolutionary precursors.
— Ancient fossil apes show fascinating variety and uniqueness that have no counterparts among living apes.
Most alleged ancestors to man consist of just a few fossil teeth or bits of skull. The pictures you see in textbooks are imaginary.
— The alleged missing link Ramapithecus was judged to be manlike due to dental characteristics, but a study indicates that the teeth are well within the natural range of measurements of living chimpanzees.
— Australopithecus is considered by some scientists to be uniquely different from both man and ape and was probably alive when man was alive.
— Sinanthropus (Peking Man) is now considered by many to be an ape (perhaps a baboon) and there is suspicion that fraud was involved in the “discovery.” Most of the physical material disappeared during World War II.
— Java Man, from early in the 20th Century, also involved fraud. The discoverer admitted late in life that it was probably a giant gibbon.
— Neanderthals are not essentially different from anyone you might see walking down the street. An early specimen’s oddities were likely due to disease. Modern DNA analysis show that they are just part of the human race.
— Homo erectus is indistinguishable from modern man, especially considering the variability anyone can observe among men and women across the planet.
— Several of the above “creatures” turn up in the same fossil time period, including an apparent 1 million year overlap between Australopithecus and Homo Erectus.
— Modern man — Homo sapiens — arrives in the fossil record in quantity and “suddenly.”

Niles Eldridge must have concerns about how the gaps affect the very foundations of evolutionary paleontology. In Reinventing Darwin he says, “When we do see the introduction of evolutionary novelty, it usually shows up with a bang, and often with no firm evidence that the fossils did not evolve elsewhere! Evolution cannot forever be going on somewhere else. Yet that’s how the fossil record has struck many a forlorn paleontologist looking to learn something about evolution.”
 
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In Ezekiel 28:16-19, Satan is promised that he will be destroyed from within and turned to ashes. Once a soul is turned to ashes, it is finished. Satan can cause harm to your body but only God can destroy your soul.

There are theologians that are and have been looking into translations for a long time now trying to understand the bible more. I happen to believe as we delve more into the actual Hebrew, Chaldean, or Greek we will have a better understanding of the word.

Example: When translated correctly, "Thou shalt not kill" Is "Thou shalt not murder" there is a difference.
Angels don't have souls.
 
The GOP talk about helping the economy but lowering taxes only hurt it. Less revenue only increases the debt of this nation. Cutting government, a potential outcome of lowering taxes, can only pay for so much.

Think about someone wanting to get out of debt. Sure, cutting spending may help them get out of it but what if it doesn't, then what? Finding another job that pays more might be the only solution.

I.E. increasing revenue through raising taxes.
You dont think much on tax policy and their impacts. What happens when taxes are lowered? Every single time revenue goes up. When revenue goes up (got a 2nd job), but expenditures outpace that gain and the deficit increases, then it is not a tax problem ... it is 100% a spending problem.
 
When you say that last part how can you say the way fossils are interpreted and dated are wrong? Are you a geologist? Paleontologist?

It would be like me being arrogant enough to challenge @warrior-cat on anything in the Bible just because I've read it a few times.

It would be hubristic on my end to do that because he's knowledgeable about it and I'm not.

Just like it would be the same for you to say how fossils are interpreted or dated are wrong. Assuming you're not either of those professions mentioned above.
Appeal to authority!! Muh overlords must be obeyed!!

Why? Because i can think. Besides you have no idea what i do, on the job or my free time.

If your doctor said the best way to remove your headache was to cut off your head, would you do it? Of course not, silly example to illustrate the point.

I guess youre in that religion too...
 
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BS . Name ONE time ANYONE has observed two animals mating and it produced a new species? Even Dion admits that is basic biology. They will always produce an offspring of the same kind with a variation, but never a new species.

This destroys your religion of macro-evolution.
That's not how evolution works. It's tiny genetic mutations and adaptations over billions of years. You don't go from one species to another in a single mating event.
The evolution took billions of years.
Some changes do happen quicker than others though....
 
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The fact that you are utterly and completely incapable of understanding something does not bear on the subject you utterly and completely do not understand. You did manage to name yourself well, though.
Typical monkey flinging feces without taking a position or addressing the facts. Just insults. You're paper-thin and an inch wide.

And speaking of names, what iteration of your former account is this? #4,813? LOL
 
That's not how evolution works. It's tiny genetic mutations and adaptations over billions of years. You don't go from one species to another in a single mating event.
The evolution took billions of years.
Some changes do happen quicker than others though....
They're still elephants. And NOTICE! that mutations ALWAYS involve the LOSS of genetic information, not the GAIN of information. Thanks for proving my point that 'evolution' is consistent on this.
 
Typical monkey flinging feces without taking a position or addressing the facts. Just insults. You're paper-thin and an inch wide.
What could I address? That you don't even conceptually understand what the theory of evolution even is? If you have a flat tire and get out of your car and start working on a telephone poll then were would I even begin?
 
When you say that last part how can you say the way fossils are interpreted and dated are wrong? Are you a geologist? Paleontologist?

It would be like me being arrogant enough to challenge @warrior-cat on anything in the Bible just because I've read it a few times.

It would be hubristic on my end to do that because he's knowledgeable about it and I'm not.

Just like it would be the same for you to say how fossils are interpreted or dated are wrong. Assuming you're not either of those professions mentioned above.
One doesn't have to be a paleontologist or geologist to see that evolution is a fantasy. In fact, being either of those things actually makes you dumber when it comes to evolutionary 'theory.' Because you have to ignore SO MUCH evidence in order to cling to a desperate idea.
 
What could I address? That you don't even conceptually understand what the theory of evolution even is? If you have a flat tire and get out of your car and start working on a telephone poll then were would I even begin?
Sure, go ahead. Explain it, big boy. I'll take you apart.

And it's "pole," not "poll," Einstein. You used the word 'even' twice in the same sentence, Captain Redundant. You want some water? Don't mess this up!

You're off to a rip-roaring start. 😂
 
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