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How will they rule ??!

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I can assure you your experiences cannot be applied across the entire country. Teachers certainly need to buy supplies for their own classrooms, especially in low income districts. I believe the tax write off for supplies is capped at $250, but it's not like writing that off gets you your money back. You're saving like $50 in taxes if you write off the full $250. You're still spending you own personal money. And if no teachers needed to spend their own money on supplies that tax deduction wouldn't exist. But it does, so that should tell you it's a common enough occurrence.
Thanks for making my point.

It's capped at $250 for a reason.

OMG, I spent almost a couple of hundred bucks this year on out of pocket school supplies! (Maybe).

Perhaps don't assign nonsense that requires you to go purchase out of pocket supplies.

Anyone that has ever worked in any public sector/government job knows how bullsh*t this argument is.

Paper, pens, basically every type of office supply is open season for employees to take home, and everyone knows it, and no one cares. At all.
 
Some on the far left do go too far with the anti-cop rhetoric. You're seeing anti-law enforcement sentiment across the political spectrum these days though. The right wasn't all "Thin Blue Line!" on Jan 6th. It's the damn War on Drugs. Most of the country does or has smoked weed. It shouldn't be a crime. If cops were hunting down burglars and rapists the public would be behind them. We're not burglars or rapists. But our only interactions with police are negative because a large swath of the population are considered criminals just for smoking a plant.
True...the super far right is convinced cops are only there to serve our corrupt government. The super far left wants to get rid of police and let counselors control crime.
I do think the No Knock warrants in high density apartment buildings need to go short of an immediate threat to life involved i.e. a hostage situation.
So much extremism in our society today....people have lost their minds.
 
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Nope. If you must know I'm a 34 year old self employed consultant. I just think people should be fully compensated for their work. Nobody owes their employer anything, because when the rubber meets the road they won't be looking out for you.
That is true they wont, and i probably should not have even replied. I try to give my employer more value than they give me, I kindof see that as job security, i guess. Also, i take my job very seriously. If i were in retail or something maybe id agree more w you. Cheers.
 
Some on the far left do go too far with the anti-cop rhetoric. You're seeing anti-law enforcement sentiment across the political spectrum these days though. The right wasn't all "Thin Blue Line!" on Jan 6th. It's the damn War on Drugs. Most of the country does or has smoked weed. It shouldn't be a crime. If cops were hunting down burglars and rapists the public would be behind them. We're not burglars or rapists. But our only interactions with police are negative because a large swath of the population are considered criminals just for smoking a plant.

Now the truth comes out. Now we see what has Dion so riled up against the 'man'.

Weed.

Dude, just grow your own amd mind your business, and I am willing to bet you never have any more issues.
 
That is true they wont, and i probably should not have even replied. I try to give my employer more value than they give me, I kindof see that as job security, i guess. Also, i take my job very seriously. If i were in retail or something maybe id agree more w you. Cheers.
It's all good. Not trying to convince anyone of anything. But my outlook is that the most valuable thing anyone has in their life is their time. It's limited and you can't buy more. When it's done it's done. I think if employers are expecting your time they should pay you for it. I know others disagree and think of it as a way towards career advancement or other things and that's fine.
 
It's all good. Not trying to convince anyone of anything. But my outlook is that the most valuable thing anyone has in their life is their time. It's limited and you can't buy more. When it's done it's done. I think if employers are expecting your time they should pay you for it. I know others disagree and think of it as a way towards career advancement or other things and that's fine.
You claim to be self employed consultant. (Good for you). People make their decisions, and if they don't like their employer, Find. A. New. Employer.

Or go work for yourself with the skills you acquired at your unsatisfactory employment choice.
 
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Thanks for making my point.

It's capped at $250 for a reason.

OMG, I spent almost a couple of hundred bucks this year on out of pocket school supplies! (Maybe).

Perhaps don't assign nonsense that requires you to go purchase out of pocket supplies.

Anyone that has ever worked in any public sector/government job knows how bullsh*t this argument is.

Paper, pens, basically every type of office supply is open season for employees to take home, and everyone knows it, and no one cares. At all.
You really don't have a clue what it takes to run a creative, engaging classroom. There is so much more that goes on besides paper/pencil activities.
There are projects, science experiments, building activities, STEM activities, real life math simulations, etc.
Most kids don't learn with just pencil/paper learning and need hands on activities that involve use of multiple senses.
All of those activities cost money. Most teachers spend waaaay more than 250 bucks per year on supplies. Many schools even require teachers to buy their own copy paper once supplies are exhausted.
We also buy kids shoes, coats, field trip expenses, bikes, food, and pay for classroom reward systems like gift cards or toys.
So many think they are education experts because they still view it thru the eyes of the child they were the last time they were in school.
 
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Thanks for making my point.

It's capped at $250 for a reason.

OMG, I spent almost a couple of hundred bucks this year on out of pocket school supplies! (Maybe).

Perhaps don't assign nonsense that requires you to go purchase out of pocket supplies.

Anyone that has ever worked in any public sector/government job knows how bullsh*t this argument is.

Paper, pens, basically every type of office supply is open season for employees to take home, and everyone knows it, and no one cares. At all.
When I taught, I spent over $250 a year just on snacks and drinks for my kids who couldn’t afford snack, much less supplies. And a teachers supply closet? What is that? lol. I like you and generally like all your posts, but you’re way off on this. If you’re actually being honest then you’re talking about an outlier. A well funded school full of overpaid teachers who have 2 1/2 hours off during a 7 hour work day with a supply closet full of supplies, that also preaches liberal indoctrination? Make it make sense. Maybe I’ve been spending too much time in conservative areas or around poor rural schools, because they have none of that. There are some terrible ultra liberal teachers. There are also girls basketball coaches who act like they’re devout conservatives that hit on underage girls. Kentucky isn’t just Jefferson County Schools, just like the USA isn’t San Francisco or New York.
 
Was in IT many years. Have been retired for 10.
Imagine hearing every day that IT people are lazy...overpaid....socialists....and are indoctrinating the public with racial computer programs. They are the reason for our social media programs that are brainwashing people and teaching our kids communist beliefs and sexual material at an early age.
Of course I don't believe that you do that and wouldn't claim to know what you did every day.
But that is where we are with how teachers are vilified now. It's nuts.
 
Some on the far left do go too far with the anti-cop rhetoric. You're seeing anti-law enforcement sentiment across the political spectrum these days though. The right wasn't all "Thin Blue Line!" on Jan 6th. It's the damn War on Drugs. Most of the country does or has smoked weed. It shouldn't be a crime. If cops were hunting down burglars and rapists the public would be behind them. We're not burglars or rapists. But our only interactions with police are negative because a large swath of the population are considered criminals just for smoking a plant.
Do you live in Mayberry? In the cities, the police don't spend a hell of time worrying about people who "smoking a plant".
 
When I taught, I spent over $250 a year just on snacks and drinks for my kids who couldn’t afford snack, much less supplies. And a teachers supply closet? What is that? lol. I like you and generally like all your posts, but you’re way off on this. If you’re actually being honest then you’re talking about an outlier. A well funded school full of overpaid teachers who have 2 1/2 hours off during a 7 hour work day with a supply closet full of supplies, that also preaches liberal indoctrination? Make it make sense. Maybe I’ve been spending too much time in conservative areas or around poor rural schools, because they have none of that. There are some terrible ultra liberal teachers. There are also girls basketball coaches who act like they’re devout conservatives that hit on underage girls. Kentucky isn’t just Jefferson County Schools, just like the USA isn’t San Francisco or New York.
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Good lord, Dion. You constantly harp on the 'man'. What, may I ask, is your profession? You can be vague, even though no one here is into doxxing people except lefties.

Go work for yourself, make your own money, and stop worrying about every perceived societal ill that your Marxist brain sees. You can't cure the world, no matter how much you wish it to be so. And your 'cure', is WAY worse than the disease anyway.
We've been over it before. I do lab work. Which in EKY means the coal industry. Every victory we've made over the centuries has been hard-won. You can go out right now and pick up shell casings from the Battle of Blair Mountain. It takes all of us, together, to make a better future. Giving in to despair, greed, and selfishness is the coward's way out.
 
Guess Marcon wasn't crazy after all. Article is ten years old.



Opps. Hope taking those tests were worth it.
 
When I taught, I spent over $250 a year just on snacks and drinks for my kids who couldn’t afford snack, much less supplies. And a teachers supply closet? What is that? lol. I like you and generally like all your posts, but you’re way off on this. If you’re actually being honest then you’re talking about an outlier. A well funded school full of overpaid teachers who have 2 1/2 hours off during a 7 hour work day with a supply closet full of supplies, that also preaches liberal indoctrination? Make it make sense. Maybe I’ve been spending too much time in conservative areas or around poor rural schools, because they have none of that. There are some terrible ultra liberal teachers. There are also girls basketball coaches who act like they’re devout conservatives that hit on underage girls. Kentucky isn’t just Jefferson County Schools, just like the USA isn’t San

You really don't have a clue what it takes to run a creative, engaging classroom. There is so much more that goes on besides paper/pencil activities.
There are projects, science experiments, building activities, STEM activities, real life math simulations, etc.
Most kids don't learn with just pencil/paper learning and need hands on activities that involve use of multiple senses.
All of those activities cost money. Most teachers spend waaaay more than 250 bucks per year on supplies. Many schools even require teachers to buy their own copy paper once supplies are exhausted.
We also buy kids shoes, coats, field trip expenses, bikes, food, and pay for classroom reward systems like gift cards or toys.
So many think they are education experts because they still view it thru the eyes of the child they were the last time they were in school.

Everyone remember, this guy is a Coronabro, through and through, a true Branch Covidian.

Don't let him forget it, cause you know he, in short order, will try and act like he was never pro lockdown, pro mask, pro vaccine, pro call everyone a conspiracy theorist, etc, etc,.

As sure as the sun rising in the East, this bunch and their ilk are going to try and weasel out of their wicked ways, and totalitarian 'public health' messaging.
 
Guess Marcon wasn't crazy after all. Article is ten years old.



Opps. Hope taking those tests were worth it.

Not gonna lie, I've thought they were pushing these swabs to collect DNA since the start.

Kind of like collecting DNA of anyone accused but not yet convicted in certain states.

And all those elementary school DNA and fingerprinting so we can identify if your poor kid goes missing?

Ancestry.com? Etc?

Don't like it at all. But it is what it is, at this point.
 
We've been over it before. I do lab work. Which in EKY means the coal industry. Every victory we've made over the centuries has been hard-won. You can go out right now and pick up shell casings from the Battle of Blair Mountain. It takes all of us, together, to make a better future. Giving in to despair, greed, and selfishness is the coward's way out.
Dude, I am 100% on the side of unions, and agree wholeheartedly about the old mining towns, and worker strikes, etc.

Which is why I can't understand how you are a communist?
 
Not gonna lie, I've thought they were pushing these swabs to collect DNA since the start.

Kind of like collecting DNA of anyone accused but not yet convicted in certain states.

And all those elementary school DNA and fingerprinting so we can identify if your poor kid goes missing?

Ancestry.com? Etc?

Don't like it at all. But it is what it is, at this point.

I'm thankful for ancestry and 23 and me. I found I was black enough to receive reparations.
 
Everyone remember, this guy is a Coronabro, through and through, a true Branch Covidian.

Don't let him forget it, cause you know he, in short order, will try and act like he was never pro lockdown, pro mask, pro vaccine, pro call everyone a conspiracy theorist, etc, etc,.

As sure as the sun rising in the East, this bunch and their ilk are going to try and weasel out of their wicked ways, and totalitarian 'public health' messaging.
If you’re referring to me with that quote you may want to go check my post history here and in all the Covid threads, as well as my stance on pretty much anything.

As far as Sam, I pretty much disagree with him on every single topic outside of UK basketball occasionally. However, I’m not tribalistic enough that my opinion has to be part of group think. I don’t agree with some of what he’s said here abut education but that doesn’t take away from the things I may agree in principle with. I can disagree and still fairly get along with just about anyone. Just like I disagree with your broad statement about educators but agree with you on the economy, Covid, social issues and other things. And I don’t totally disagree on all of the education stuff, especially in Liberal strongholds, but I’m not going to jump on board with an overarching theme when I’ve witnessed the contrary my entire professional career.
 
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Not comparing jobs. The point is that you don't have to listen to clowns on Fox, right wing radio stations, social media and people on this message board tell you every day that you suck....all the people that do your job suck....you don't deserve what little income you get because you don't work much....you are hurting children and indoctrinating them....you are the reason kids get sexually abused (Bevin).....
and you don't need your pension even if you don't get social security.
The hatred and vitriole towards the profession is out of control. The kids don't wanna learn anymore either and discipline is out of control as well. These kids hear all this outside and inside the home. Many have lost all respect for teachers and following the rules in school. Why should they listen to those lazy, stupid, good for nothing teachers???
Same thing is happening in our society to our cops. A good chunk thinks the same about cops so why listen to them or follow the laws?? You see it every day on Tik Tok or YouTube.
You'd see the same thing in schools if we were allowed to video our classes and post it.
The right trashes our teachers....the left trashes our cops. Good luck living in that society fools.

Try working in multiple ERs seeing covid positive patients for two years only to be told by Joe Schmo hiding in his house that you must take an experimental shot or get fired to keep him “safe.”

That being said, Sam you’re prob a solid teacher. My sister is a teacher and it’s a tough gig. Just like healthcare or anything else, some go into for the wrong reasons. Unions and higher ups always pushing agendas over those right reasons. Infusion of politics has damaged both fields severely.
 
Do you live in Mayberry? In the cities, the police don't spend a hell of time worrying about people who "smoking a plant".
Yeah, not these days. Thanks to years of grassroots activism and state legalizations. But it's still illegal both federally and in KY. The laws aren't enforced uniformly. And that's just THC, there are many other psychoactive substances that are more severe criminal offenses than that that shouldn't be. That's why I said the whole War on Drugs. It's been a war on whomever they want to enforce it on, mostly poor communities, for its entire history. Rich kids get rehab, poor kids get records.

“You want to know what this was really all about. The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying. We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.” - John Ehrlichman, Nixon’s domestic policy chief
 
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SCIENCE DUDE, I give you a lot of grief on here, (rightfully deserved) but you are probably an ok dude, just fell for the lefty propaganda.

Hope one day you open your mind and eyes, amd see what the real problems are. It ain't the religious right anymore, those nuts had their heyday in the late 80's early 90's, when everything was 'satanic' and what not.

The real problem now is woke-ism, amd the radical left. And its infiltration into ALL of our institutions. Government, corporations, education, pop culture. Everywhere. It's vile, sick, and disgusting, and pretty much racist as hell.
Comparing the religious right to what’s going on today is utter bullsh*t.
 
Everyone remember, this guy is a Coronabro, through and through, a true Branch Covidian.

Don't let him forget it, cause you know he, in short order, will try and act like he was never pro lockdown, pro mask, pro vaccine, pro call everyone a conspiracy theorist, etc, etc,.

As sure as the sun rising in the East, this bunch and their ilk are going to try and weasel out of their wicked ways, and totalitarian 'public health' messaging.
I was always opposed to government vax mandates for the private sector. That's up to them not the government. I support a hospital's right to impose it on employees as long as they are doing it...not the government.
I was for the lockdowns at the beginning of the virus before vaccines and proven therapies. Once the vax was out I was all for opening it all up. People can choose for themselves where to go. I liked the reduced capacity of restaurants before the vax but always thought the mask rule in restaurants was stupid. You gotta take it off to eat or drink anyway.
I haven't worn a mask anywhere I didn't have to in over a year. I don't whine about it if it's required.
Btw...I support the Truckers right to not get the vax but not their right to block interstate commerce and bridges.
 
I was always opposed to government vax mandates for the private sector. That's up to them not the government. I support a hospital's right to impose it on employees as long as they are doing it...not the government.
I was for the lockdowns at the beginning of the virus before vaccines and proven therapies. Once the vax was out I was all for opening it all up. People can choose for themselves where to go. I liked the reduced capacity of restaurants before the vax but always thought the mask rule in restaurants was stupid. You gotta take it off to eat or drink anyway.
I haven't worn a mask anywhere I didn't have to in over a year. I don't whine about it if it's required.
Btw...I support the Truckers right to not get the vax but not their right to block interstate commerce and bridges.

Have you got your AIDs test yet?
 
SCIENCE DUDE, I give you a lot of grief on here, (rightfully deserved) but you are probably an ok dude, just fell for the lefty propaganda.

Hope one day you open your mind and eyes, amd see what the real problems are. It ain't the religious right anymore, those nuts had their heyday in the late 80's early 90's, when everything was 'satanic' and what not.

The real problem now is woke-ism, amd the radical left. And its infiltration into ALL of our institutions. Government, corporations, education, pop culture. Everywhere. It's vile, sick, and disgusting, and pretty much racist as hell.

Satan still doing his thing, just repackages it with the culturally appropriate trendy bow on top, like every current thing you mentioned. Most of those 80s and 90s politically driven religious right were also just a bow themselves.

Nothing new under the sun.
 
Dude, I am 100% on the side of unions, and agree wholeheartedly about the old mining towns, and worker strikes, etc.

Which is why I can't understand how you are a communist?
How are you not? That's what unions are. That's why all of this is so dumb. We get way too lost in terminology. I don't want a Stalinist USSR in the USA. I want healthcare for the mine workers and their families and every damn one of us because we deserve it. Basically every developed country has it. We fight over the social issues but we should be united on the economic ones. Jeff Bezos doesn't need another super yacht that takes a bridge being dismantled to launch. We need to see doctors.
 
Obviously. The original was closer to the truth. @TKE_ won't answer cause he's out of his depth so let's have @Gassy_Knowls speak for him. Who did Hitler imprison after the Reichstag fire? The removal of which, being his political opponents, allowed him and the Nazis to come to power?

Nah, just don't know where to start with such ignorance....
 
Comparing the religious right to what’s going on today is utter bullsh*t.

Agreed, not even close, but the censorship and hypocrisy they pushed then (Simon Leis, Charles Keating, half the televangelist, etc.) Was pretty nuts.

These people acted like ozzy and motley crue were real Satanists, and other nonsense, and wanted to ban playboy, hustler, and 'dungeons and dragons' for God's sake.
 
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I was always opposed to government vax mandates for the private sector. That's up to them not the government. I support a hospital's right to impose it on employees as long as they are doing it...not the government.
I was for the lockdowns at the beginning of the virus before vaccines and proven therapies. Once the vax was out I was all for opening it all up. People can choose for themselves where to go. I liked the reduced capacity of restaurants before the vax but always thought the mask rule in restaurants was stupid. You gotta take it off to eat or drink anyway.
I haven't worn a mask anywhere I didn't have to in over a year. I don't whine about it if it's required.
Btw...I support the Truckers right to not get the vax but not their right to block interstate commerce and bridges.
A) truckers in Canada are over 90% vaxxed. About 12% more than General population. So shut up. They are protesting government overreach and tyranny.

B) did you just say you were for lockdowns until we had a vaccine? So you wanted 10 months of lockdowns? And that is way less than was expected time wise. Good God, you ARE the stupidest poster on here. Do you have any concept what a 10 month lockdown would have done? My God!! You are 'SCIENCE DUDE'!
 
How are you not? That's what unions are. That's why all of this is so dumb. We get way too lost in terminology. I don't want a Stalinist USSR in the USA. I want healthcare for the mine workers and their families and every damn one of us because we deserve it. Basically every developed country has it. We fight over the social issues but we should be united on the economic ones. Jeff Bezos doesn't need another super yacht that takes a bridge being dismantled to launch. We need to see doctors.

Buddy, you don't 'deserve' shit. Why do you deserve anything? What kind of demented mentality do you have?

Get to work, commie. Quit looking for someone to take care of your ass.
 
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Taking a break from subbing. That's why I have more time for battling with you righties. So few subs and aspiring teachers I was getting pulled to multiple different classes all day. Too chaotic for this old man's blood pressure.
False, you were caught in a lie and are now lying to cover. Everyone knows it but you are too dumb to see that we know.
 
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