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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
My friend had a nonbeliever tell him there was no heaven or hell and that he was wasting his time worshipping God. He simply told the guy what if I’m right and you’re wrong. I’ll pray for you Plat, I don’t think you won’t to be wrong.
This is known as Pascal’s Wager, put forth in the 17th century. There are several counter arguments, the simplest being that it’s culturally dictated. Who does the man on his deathbed look to for his everlasting salvation? Zeus, Odin, Allah, Vishnu? They all have different, often conflicting, messages and routes to eternal reward. You can't simply cover your ass by accepting Jesus since it flouts the other religions and we have no idea who's correct.
 
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FYI don't let people fool you - 99% of people have a religion. It might not have it's books or churches, or be so clearly recognizable; but they absolutely have one.

Much of science is nothing more than high brow religion. Modern day liberal politics is absolutely a religion. They absolutely check all the same boxes as other religions.

So congratulations, we're all believers of something
 
Jesus said Thou art Peter, and upon THIS rock I will build my church. If he was referring to Peter he wouldn't have said 'this rock.' Also there is a difference in the Greek word Peter which means little stone. The context of the fact that Peter never is given any authority over the other apostles is significant. In fact, the apostle Paul mentions that he actually REBUKED Peter to his face in Galatians 2. Nobody talks to the pope like that. If anyone was the head of the 12, it was Paul, not Peter.

And his reason for rebuking him was his hypocrisy regarding the treatment of Jewish Christians.
 
FYI don't let people fool you - 99% of people have a religion. It might not have it's books or churches, or be so clearly recognizable; but they absolutely have one.

Much of science is nothing more than high brow religion. Modern day liberal politics is absolutely a religion. They absolutely check all the same boxes as other religions.

So congratulations, we're all believers of something
Dumb take that completely ignores the inherent difference between a faith-based system and an evidence-based one. Most non-followers don't just "believe" things and hold onto those beliefs despite conflicting evidence, they change their opinions based on the evidence. "Believers" are taught that holding onto their convictions in the face of conflicting evidence is virtuous. They're diametrically opposed. And one makes suicide bomb martyrs.
 
Dumb take that completely ignores the inherent difference between a faith-based system and an evidence-based one. Most non-followers don't just "believe" things and hold onto those beliefs despite conflicting evidence, they change their opinions based on the evidence. "Believers" are taught that holding onto their convictions in the face of conflicting evidence is virtuous. They're diametrically opposed.

Ironic
 
Dumb take that completely ignores the inherent difference between a faith-based system and an evidence-based one. Most non-followers don't just "believe" things and hold onto those beliefs despite conflicting evidence, they change their opinions based on the evidence. "Believers" are taught that holding onto their convictions in the face of conflicting evidence is virtuous. They're diametrically opposed.

Nope. It's spot on. We see it on here daily and in the msm.
 
No, that it micro evolution (variation within a species). The evolution you worship would be, in essence, a cow mating w a cow and producing a duck. That has never been observed. Why? Because that doesnt happen.

Someone let me know if Plat responds to me. Ive got him on ignore.
You can watch evolution in real time within ant colonies that have never been exposed to pesticides before. Within a handful of generations they will gene mutate to become immune to the pesticide.
It can also be observed in cavefish populations where newer generations no longer have eyes or any pigmentation.
once again you can watch bacteria mutate in real time to become immune to different pharmaceuticals.

Micro and macro evolution are the same process just different time scale.
variation within a species is natural selection which is evolution.
a cow making a duck has to be the dumbest argument you could come up with.
 
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And his reason for rebuking him was his hypocrisy regarding the treatment of Jewish Christians.
Just to sum up a key point, in the text “Thou art Peter …..” the words for Peter and rock are different.

The “rock” upon which the church was to be built was not Peter (petros - a piece of rock) but rather the confession that Peter made that Jesus was the Christ the son of the living God. ( “ upon this rock (petra - a gigantic rock)).
 
The ADL is an American organization and that definition is from an American perspective. You can easily broaden it to a global one with, "The marginalization and/or oppression of people of color based on a socially constructed racial hierarchy that privileges the societal in-group." Which in American is white people, as ADL states. In China it's Han Chinese.
 
Just to sum up a key point, in the text “Thou art Peter …..” the words for Peter and rock are different.

The “rock” upon which the church was to be built was not Peter (petros - a piece of rock) but rather the confession that Peter made that Jesus was the Christ the son of the living God. ( “ upon this rock (petra - a gigantic rock)).

Right. I believe that was Low Country’s point. He just didn’t flesh all of that out as you just did.
 
This is known as Pascal’s Wager, put forth in the 17th century. There are several counter arguments, the simplest being that it’s culturally dictated. Who does the man on his deathbed look to for his everlasting salvation? Zeus, Odin, Allah, Vishnu? They all have different, often conflicting, messages and routes to eternal reward. You can't simply cover your ass by accepting Jesus since it flouts the other religions and we have no idea who's correct.
I put my trust in Jesus.
 
My friend had a nonbeliever tell him there was no heaven or hell and that he was wasting his time worshipping God. He simply told the guy what if I’m right and you’re wrong. I’ll pray for you Plat, I don’t think you want to be wrong.
I believe there is a God.

What I don't understand is why anyone thinks we should worship him. It was his choice to put us here, not ours. Verus just living my life that he created, why take time & effort to worship? Makes no sense to me.
 
I put my trust in Jesus.
Really love his teachings and consider myself a Christian because I try to live by his words...but have my doubts about the son of God aspect.
I'm much more of a Jesus than Bible fan because of the hypocrisy, contradictions and weird ass Bible verses like this.....
Ezekiel 23:20 — "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."
 
The most dangerous person in the world.

That should be illegal for one person or company to put that kind of money into elections. You're just asking for suspicious things to happen. No outside source should be able to try and influence election outcomes like that. Hopefully the scumbag loses all that money and gets nothing to show for it.
 
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