POLITICAL THREAD

[ymmot31]

I meant independents that have not decided yet, which should be very few at this point.

If they are unaware of Hillary's exploits at this late date, then they are woefully disinterested in politics in general and will simply vote for the person who offers them the most of my money. They'll vote Hillary.

There are no "undecided" voters. There are voters who haven't proclaimed.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Newsweek already shipped these out...

How great would it be to see her lose

 

[ymmot31]

How great would it be to see her lose

SO great.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

RCP moves Virginia to Toss-Up

If places like Virginia and Michigan are considered close, that tells me this will definitely come down to the wire and Clinton's camp has to be nervous.

 

[Willy4UK]

SO great.

Like the best kind of great, right? We sure have the best greats, don't we folks?

 

[VilleCat]

If they are unaware of Hillary's exploits at this late date, then they are woefully disinterested in politics in general and will simply vote for the person who offers them the most of my money. They'll vote Hillary.

There are no "undecided" voters. There are voters who haven't proclaimed.

Sad, but true.

 

[BernieSadori]

If Paul Ryan is coming around on Trump, he must know The Donald has a decent chance of winning this thing.

Ryan is a politician after all.

 

[Rex Kwon Do]

Newsweek already shipped these out...

That's some bad mojo if I've ever seen it...

 

[cat_chaser]

Meh. Trump is crushing Hillary wirh the independent vote. Yet, somehow, every self-proclaimed independent in this thread is with Her.

Still not sure how Hillary is such a lock with the indy's breaking so hard for Trump.

 

[WettCat]

Pretty much sums it up for me....

 

[krazykats]

If places like Virginia and Michigan are considered close, that tells me this will definitely come down to the wire and Clinton's camp has to be nervous.

If your billionaire backers are promising you a win how nervous can you be?

 

[krazykats]

Meh. Trump is crushing Hillary wirh the independent vote. Yet, somehow, every self-proclaimed independent in this thread is with Her.

Still not sure how Hillary is such a lock with the indy's breaking so hard for Trump.

Well we are supposed to believe it's the latinos.

Mind they may represent 12% of voter pop and reports say he is projected to get 30% of that........so the story doesn't add up.

 

[JohnKBA]

Well we are supposed to believe it's the latinos.

Mind they may represent 12% of voter pop and reports say he is projected to get 30% of that........so the story doesn't add up.

I can't find a single model that predicts a Trump win - the statistical models have a pretty broad range, from around 36% Trump (538) to 1% Trump (Princeton.)

Betting markets have a tighter range - around 31% Trump (Iowa) to 17% Trump (William Hill.)

Still, it sure feels like it could go either way. Obama was pretty safe on election night in 2012 and won pretty comfortably. I don't see that at all tomorrow. There will be a lot of angst on the DEM side and I think there is a decent chance the clock will turn to Wednesday without us knowing who won.

 

[AustinTXCat]

RCP moves Virginia to Toss-Up

 

[Levibooty]

Notice how the laughable buffoons who call themselves conservatives and think they own all the integrity are always wanting to "investigate" and are fully behind any investigation of a liberal but are almost never satisfied when the investigation finds nothing. What a collection of ignorance. They are the quintessential example of the "sky is falling" crowd.

 

[DSmith21]

I can't find a single model that predicts a Trump win - the statistical models have a pretty broad range, from around 36% Trump (538) to 1% Trump (Princeton.)

Betting markets have a tighter range - around 31% Trump (Iowa) to 17% Trump (William Hill.)

Still, it sure feels like it could go either way. Obama was pretty safe on election night in 2012 and won pretty comfortably. I don't see that at all tomorrow. There will be a lot of angst on the DEM side and I think there is a decent chance the clock will turn to Wednesday without us knowing who won.

Most of the polls are assuming a turnout model similar to 2012 where Black voters and Millennials came out in droves for Obama. This is not happening according to the early vote. Partially offsetting these losses is an increase in Hispanic voters. So the real state of the race may be closer than the polls indicate.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Notice how the laughable buffoons who call themselves conservatives and think they own all the integrity are always wanting to "investigate" and are fully behind any investigation of a liberal but are almost never satisfied when the investigation finds nothing. What a collection of ignorance. They are the quintessential example of the "sky is falling" crowd.

An "investigation" doesn't need to be done. There's nothing to investigate anymore. Through Wikileaks and FOIA requests, we clearly see the illegal conduct. That's 100% not debatable, and if you think it is, you're ignorant to the facts.

What Wikileaks has also shown us is the collusion between the FBI, DOJ and Clinton Syndicate.

So no, I'm not dissatisfied with the investigation. We know illegal conduct was found. What I'm dissatisfied with is the corruption in the FBI and DOJ in allowing her to skate, and people like you who are too goddamn stupid to pull your head out of your ass and think for yourself.

 

[DSmith21]

Notice how the laughable buffoons who call themselves conservatives and think they own all the integrity are always wanting to "investigate" and are fully behind any investigation of a liberal but are almost never satisfied when the investigation finds nothing. What a collection of ignorance. They are the quintessential example of the "sky is falling" crowd.

The investigations didn't find "nothing". The FBI found that Hillary lied about her server not having classified documents (over 100 were found). They also concluded that she was extremely careless with national security secrets. Anyone else not as connected/protected as Hillary would be facing jail time. Also the FBI investigation into the corrupt Clinton Family Foundation is still active. The pay to play activities there are pretty obvious. So Hillary is not out of the woods yet even with AG Loretta Lynch doing everything in her power to protect the Clintons.

 

[krazykats]

 

[krazykats]

I can't find a single model that predicts a Trump win - the statistical models have a pretty broad range, from around 36% Trump (538) to 1% Trump (Princeton.)

Betting markets have a tighter range - around 31% Trump (Iowa) to 17% Trump (William Hill.)

Still, it sure feels like it could go either way. Obama was pretty safe on election night in 2012 and won pretty comfortably. I don't see that at all tomorrow. There will be a lot of angst on the DEM side and I think there is a decent chance the clock will turn to Wednesday without us knowing who won.

I agree that I think she wins, but I don't understand how really.

I mean white males are pouring in support into percentages we haven't seen before. Blacks are down in percent, big time, and latinos are way up.

Also add in to the fact that several typical democratic voters are switching to trump(not really republican) in this election.

Now you tell me where the math is?

Again I'm not arguing I'm just confused how it comes out.

 

[WayneDougan]

I predict reparations will be on the table within 8 years if Hillary wins. It may not get through, but it will be a major debate and be used to further divide our electorate.

 

[KopiKat]

RCP is just playing with your imaginations. Their big pay-day is about to come to and end, but please go there an help them make another nickle

 

[PhattyJ4UK]

I really dont underdtand how anyone who has any love and pride in their country can vote for hillary clinton. the only explanation is low information.

If you have done your responsibilities as an american and put in your due diligence, you have no excuse

 

[KopiKat]

Blacks are down in percent, big time . . ..

have no idea why this would be . . . all the money they have put in the market in the past 8 years, and the fear of wall street's reaction to a Trump win

 

[mdlUK.1]

I really dont underdtand how anyone who has any love and pride in their country can vote for hillary clinton. the only explanation is low information.

If you have done your responsibilities as an american and put in your due diligence, you have no excuse

I agree. They keep saying polls say 60-70% of the people think the country is headed in the wrong direction. So, you're going to vote to not only continue in that direction, but you want to speed it up? I just don't get it.

 

[KopiKat]

I really dont underdtand how anyone who has any love and pride in their country can vote for hillary clinton. the only explanation is low information.

If you have done your responsibilities as an american and put in your due diligence, you have no excuse

It really is no different that NAZI Germany, when the maniacs supported the ideologies of a party and threw aside that of the country. Even in this message board, we see intelligent posters who hold silent to clear evidence of the President of the United States committing treason while encouraging illegals to vote in the national election process, thereby themselves committing pedestrian treason, reconciling privately on basis of some perverse moral right.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Notice how the laughable buffoons who call themselves conservatives and think they own all the integrity are always wanting to "investigate" and are fully behind any investigation of a liberal but are almost never satisfied when the investigation finds nothing. What a collection of ignorance. They are the quintessential example of the "sky is falling" crowd.

Would you call Trey Gowdy a buffoon as well?

And would you also say they "found nothing?"

 

[Chuckinden]

I really dont underdtand how anyone who has any love and pride in their country can vote for hillary clinton. the only explanation is low information.

If you have done your responsibilities as an american and put in your due diligence, you have no excuse

It's truly a vote for the lesser of two evils. Not a vote for Clinton, but just a vote against Trump.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

I predict reparations will be on the table within 8 years if Hillary wins. It may not get through, but it will be a major debate and be used to further divide our electorate.

Nah. Its on to the latinos now. African Americans are old hat for the dems. They have an entirely new minority groups to pander to now. A group that isnt becoming wise to the dem scam, and that reproduces in much greater numbers.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

It's truly a vote for the lesser of two evils. Not a vote for Clinton, but just a vote against Trump.

The fact any sane reasonable person can look at Hillary and (Insert any living human), then conclude Hillary is the "lesser of two evils" is incredible

 

[Willy4UK]

The fact any sane reasonable person can look at Hillary and (Insert any living human), then conclude Hillary is the "lesser of two evils" is incredible

Yeah, if anyone thinks that Hillary is the lesser of the two evils, then hope is truly lost.

Not surprising of Chuck. He's a 100% establishment guy. He's in insurance right? Can't imagine how he doesn't benefit from a Hillary presidency. Chuck is looking to break the bank with Hilldawg.

 

[Bill Cosby]

You could write in a Dirty Sock.

Pulling the lever for Clinton is a vote for Clinton and everything she stands for. Any argument that a vote for Clinton is a vote against Trump is moronic. You voted for Clinton.

 

[Bill Cosby]

It really is concerning that an adult could fall for Clinton's bullshit, and be convinced the guy who's never held public office is more dangerous for the country than the person who's made hundreds of millions of dollars selling pieces of the country, gave classified info to hundreds of people, and who's owned by foreign dictators and billionaires.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Honestly, one of my biggest concerns about even voting is that the machine would change my vote to Clinton, then I'd have to look myself in the mirror every day knowing my vote was cast for Clinton.

 

[From-the-stands]

Mike Huckabee just predicted Trump will win.

 

[TopCatCal]

PREDICTION

If Hillary Clinton is elected president. MARK MY WORDS. Be for she leaves office bestiality will be legal in this country. Some man will want to marry his dog or some woman will want to marry her pig. And Hillary will pack the courts with Godless, liberal judges that will allow it to happen. Or Hillary will use an executive order & it will be the law of the land. You think I'm crazy ? Well did you think 8 years ago when the current P.O.S. that's in the white house was elected. Did you think then that it would be legal for a 40 year old male P. E. teacher to change his cloths & shower with little 10 year old girls. This is what happens when you put democrats in power. Any weirdo, freak that comes along, the democrats party is all for them. Wait & see. Bestiality is just around the corner.

 

[krazykats]

have no idea why this would be . . . all the money they have put in the market in the past 8 years, and the fear of wall street's reaction to a Trump win

Wait what are you even saying?

You quoted my post saying that the black vote is down by percentage.

And this is your response? I'm confused

 

[DaBossIsBack]

PREDICTION

If Hillary Clinton is elected president. MARK MY WORDS. Be for she leaves office bestiality will be legal in this country. Some man will want to marry his dog or some woman will want to marry her pig. And Hillary will pack the courts with Godless, liberal judges that will allow it to happen. Or Hillary will use an executive order & it will be the law of the land. You think I'm crazy ? Well did you think 8 years ago when the current P.O.S. that's in the white house was elected. Did you think then that it would be legal for a 40 year old male P. E. teacher to change his cloths & shower with little 10 year old girls. This is what happens when you put democrats in power. Any weirdo, freak that comes along, the democrats party is all for them. Wait & see. Bestiality is just around the corner.

 

[BlueRunner11]

It's truly a vote for the lesser of two evils. Not a vote for Clinton, but just a vote against Trump.

It is a vote for Clinton unless you stay home.

 

[DaBossIsBack]

It really is concerning that an adult could fall for Clinton's bullshit, and be convinced the guy who's never held public office is more dangerous for the country than the person who's made hundreds of millions of dollars selling pieces of the country, gave classified info to hundreds of people, and who's owned by foreign dictators and billionaires.

It's more than concerning. It's also more than concerning that an adult could fall for Trump's bullshit. But here we are. So why are the vast majority falling for it? Why are we the people letting this happen? Because, like Hume said, and I'm paraphrasing, nothing is more surprising than the ease with which the many are governed by the few. Keep fighting shadows people. Keep pointing fingers across the aisle. All of you, regardless of which letter you punch tomorrow, are being taken for a ride again.