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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
plastic in landfills doesn't magically disappear. as it breaks down the particles leach into the ground and make their way into water sources. we ship about a third of our garbage to Asia. they burn some, recycle some, and dump the rest. we have replacements for most common throw away plastics. it's a easy small fix that hurts nobody.
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plastic in landfills doesn't magically disappear. as it breaks down the particles leach into the ground and make their way into water sources. we ship about a third of our garbage to Asia. they burn some, recycle some, and dump the rest. we have replacements for most common throw away plastics. it's a easy small fix that hurts nobody.
landfills are built above water sources? Pretty sure that's not allowed. Nice try though.
 
That is pro move, you devious son of a gun...but I'm just as evil as you...do you think I would actually have a month full of posts that start with 'The Reds are the greatest'?

I pay all my debts, but guess what? If the Reds win the series...I just won't post for one month so I don't have to write that. And then, you gotta go one month without the legendary TheFrontRunner posting...sounds you like lose either way.

But I respect your game on the avatar plan, I respect that idea.

(Also, I have noticed @ukalum1988 likes a lot of pro Reds posts...are you serious? You are a Morganfield boy and you pick the Reds over the Cards? What is wrong with you?)
You can't go a month without posting. You know it, I know it, everybody here knows it.
 
landfills are built above water sources? Pretty sure that's not allowed. Nice try though.

ground water with unlined landfills

Plus you can find all kinds of sinkholes filled with garbage that goes into the water table.

Your house could be on top of an old landfill, that's not unheard. "Love Canal, NY"
 

Rick Dennison out as Minnesota Vikings assistant after refusing COVID-19 vaccine, sources say​



“The vaccine is required for all Tier 1 staff, including coaches, front-office executives, equipment managers and scouts. Players are not required to receive the COVID-19 vaccine but will face strict protocols during training camp and throughout the season that vaccinated players will be able to forgo.”

Hmm. Odd that a player doesn’t have to do it but coaches are fired.
 
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I'd just like you to answer these simple questions. Do you think the Government knows what's better for the citizens more than the citizens do themselves? Do you think the Democrats truly have the peoples best interest at heart or do they want power? Do you think Government controlling every aspect of our lives is better than people being free to choose their own way?
1) Sometimes. Depends on the issue and circumstances. Drunk driving and seat belt laws would be an example here. People are stupid and do stupid things. The entire idea of society is that collectively we can pool our knowledge and experience to benefit those who are lacking in them. Environmental regulations, for example, protect us all from the actions of a few who would be acting in their own best interest but not in the interest of everyone. So often yes, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and government can have the perspective to see that which an individual cannot.

2) Almost all politicians want personal power, wealth, aggrandizement. But the same is true of the private sector. Bezos didn't make Amazon to help people. Ambition is a fundamental human trait. Which is why everyone should pay more attention to policies than the messenger. Yes I realize this is what everyone says about Trump, but I hated his policies, the personification of evil he happened to be was just the icing on the cake. So ultimately yes, I believe the policies championed by Democrats will be more beneficial to our people and country than ones put forth by Republicans. Everyone wants power, but the Ds definitely have the people's best interest as a priority more than the Rs. Just look at wealth inequality. The great American middle class is dead thanks to bootlicking conservatives.

3) It's not an either or. In any society you're free to do some things and restricted from doing others for the benefit of all. Pure government control would be an oppressive hellscape just like pure individual autonomy is survival-of-the-fittest anarchy where warlords and their strength reign. You may not like it but we as humans need both and must constantly grind on the balancing act called politics to adjust that boundary to fit the needs of the day.
 
1) Sometimes. Depends on the issue and circumstances. Drunk driving and seat belt laws would be an example here. People are stupid and do stupid things. The entire idea of society is that collectively we can pool our knowledge and experience to benefit those who are lacking in them. Environmental regulations, for example, protect us all from the actions of a few who would be acting in their own best interest but not in the interest of everyone. So often yes, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and government can have the perspective to see that which an individual cannot.

2) Almost all politicians want personal power, wealth, aggrandizement. But the same is true of the private sector. Bezos didn't make Amazon to help people. Ambition is a fundamental human trait. Which is why everyone should pay more attention to policies than the messenger. Yes I realize this is what everyone says about Trump, but I hated his policies, the personification of evil he happened to be was just the icing on the cake. So ultimately yes, I believe the policies championed by Democrats will be more beneficial to our people and country than ones put forth by Republicans. Everyone wants power, but the Ds definitely have the people's best interest as a priority more than the Rs. Just look at wealth inequality. The great American middle class is dead thanks to bootlicking conservatives.

3) It's not an either or. In any society you're free to do some things and restricted from doing others for the benefit of all. Pure government control would be an oppressive hellscape just like pure individual autonomy is survival-of-the-fittest anarchy where warlords and their strength reign. You may not like it but we as humans need both and must constantly grind on the balancing act called politics to adjust that boundary to fit the needs of the day.
What Trump policies did you hate? Which Biden Policies do you like? Tell us something Biden has done since elected that has benefitted the country?

What is wrong with policies that put your country first?
 
1) . The entire idea of society is that collectively we can pool our knowledge and experience to benefit those who are lacking in them.

No, society exists for the mutual benefit of its constituents. The fundamental purpose of society is not for the competent to serve the incompetent - helping those who cannot help themselves is a natural consequence, not the primary goal.

Just look at wealth inequality. The great American middle class is dead thanks to bootlicking conservatives.

A more convincing argument could be made that the blame there lies entirely at the feet of Democrats. But that's not really here nor there, politics is not the cause nor is it capitalism.

3) It's not an either or. In any society you're free to do some things and restricted from doing others for the benefit of all.

That is not what our society is about, rather it's very clearly and very explicitly about protecting the individual so that he can thrive. More thriving indviduals in turn makes a more thriving society, which can then more readily help those who are incapable of helping themselves.
 
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Uh oh...my local news started out with nothing but Delta Variant covid news...and suggested mask mandates should return.

They blamed new spikes all on the unvaccinated...that is me and you @Gassy_Knowls. How many grandmothers have you killed?

I was told I killed 12 grannies. But ha! Turns out the vaxxed actually killed the grannies. Fully exonerated.
 
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Uh oh...my local news started out with nothing but Delta Variant covid news...and suggested mask mandates should return.

They blamed new spikes all on the unvaccinated...that is me and you @Gassy_Knowls. How many grandmothers have you killed?

It’s really happening.

MISSOURI of all daggum places just reinstated mask mandates. Cant believe Andy hasn’t done this yet.

Unless there is some resistance, any resistance, why would govt NOT take away more freedoms and restrict private business. P
 
Uh oh...my local news started out with nothing but Delta Variant covid news...and suggested mask mandates should return.

They blamed new spikes all on the unvaccinated...that is me and you @Gassy_Knowls. How many grandmothers have you killed?
It's neither you or Gassys fault. According to the LA Times it is entirely Trump and Tucker Carlsons fault that mask mandates are coming back.
 
You can maybe get me to play along with another mask mandate in December...but not summer. Don't even try it.

It's 90 some degrees outside....'feels like' 1000. whatever that weird feels like stat they use that sounds really unofficial. 1000 degrees is no time for masks.

Masks don't work. That's been proven. Only thing that prevents virus spread is a GD Hazmat suit. Not a paper mask in a box outside the doors of a grocery store

Now they are doing this for spite.
 
No, society exists for the mutual benefit of its constituents. The fundamental purpose of society is not for the competent to serve the incompetent - helping those who cannot help themselves is a natural consequence, not the primary goal.
You simply restated what I said. The mutual benefit of its constituents. Some people are strong in area A and weak in area B. Others are strong in B but weak in A. So we work together to combine our strengths and mitigate our weaknesses for the benefit of all.
That is not what our society is about, rather it's very clearly and very explicitly about protecting the individual so that he can thrive. More thriving indviduals in turn makes a more thriving society, which can then more readily help those who are incapable of helping themselves.
That's a simple position that's very simply incorrect. Here's an equally simple clip illustrating why:
 
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No, I didn't simply restate what you said. It's not a distinction without a difference. It's totally distinct, totally different.

What's better? That more people have more abundant better quality goods/services, or that everyone has lesser quality goods/services, but they are equally accessible, sharing the same limited access.

For you, the latter is better, which is not a logically defensible position even if John Nash himself would try defend it (he wouldn't).
 
No, I didn't simply restate what you said. It's not a distinction without a difference. It's totally distinct, totally different.

What's better? That more people have more abundant better quality goods/services, or that everyone has lesser quality goods/services, but they are equally accessible, sharing the same limited access.

For you, the latter is better, which is not a logically defensible position even if John Nash himself would try defend it (he wouldn't).
That isn't the choice. It's about the distribution of resources. There is no way you can argue that making an entire yacht out of gold just because you can advances the quality of goods and services.

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It's a gaudy, gauche abomination that is nothing but a pure waste of resources in a display of conspicuous consumption.
 
. There is no way you can argue that making an entire yacht out of gold just because you can advances the quality of goods and services.

That’s literally exactly what’s goin on with that boat. Don’t be mad because you can’t afford it.

Masks don't work. That's been proven. Only thing that prevents virus spread is a GD Hazmat suit. Not a paper mask in a box outside the doors of a grocery store

Now they are doing this for spite.

YEA BUT THAT SCIENCE DOESNT MATTER
 
That isn't the choice. It's about the distribution of resources. There is no way you can argue that making an entire yacht out of gold just because you can advances the quality of goods and services.

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It's a gaudy, gauche abomination that is nothing but a pure waste of resources in a display of conspicuous consumption.
We got it. People shouldn’t have nice things.
 
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That’s literally exactly what’s goin on with that boat. Don’t be mad because you can’t afford it.
It's gold. It isn't some newly developed space-age polymer that'll revolutionize boat building. It wasn't chosen for its suitability for the task. It was used purely because of its value. It's opulence for opulence's sake and doesn't advance the quality of goods/services one iota.
 
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That isn't the choice. It's about the distribution of resources. There is no way you can argue that making an entire yacht out of gold just because you can advances the quality of goods and services.

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It's a gaudy, gauche abomination that is nothing but a pure waste of resources in a display of conspicuous consumption.
It's also none of your ****ing business. That's how the real world works. It's not up to you or your business what other people do with the wealth they acquired. You should aspire to be that person, not rely on a govt to steal it from them and give it to you because your jealous.
 
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