Tell me more, wise one. I want to know all the intricacies that make it sooooo difficult to keep it up and running. I am all ears.
OT: Twitter in Absolute Shambles
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Twitter Developer Platform overview
Learn more about what is available on the Twitter Developer Platform, and what tools and resources are available to help you get started, set up, and optimize your integration.
developer.twitter.com
- Dozens (if not hundreds) of APIs and libraries that essentially control every aspect of Twitter - both on Twitter.com and throughout external sources
- Numerous algorithms (home feed, trending topics, suggested follows, and many more)
- Advertising
- Video and audio encoding
- Maintaining ADA accessibility standards, which is not exactly easy to do
- Content moderation
- Privacy
- Safety and security
- Maintaining servers
- Coding - it uses 11 different coding languages
- Analytics
- Direct messaging
- Super Follows (which is subscriptions for paywalled content)
- Twitter Spaces (live audio conversations)
- Supporting 34 languages
- Maintaining a developer platform
- Maintaining cloud infrastructure
- Legal stuff like staying in compliance with laws in hundreds of countries
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It was tongue in cheek when I said just type something and hit submit. I know it's more complex than that with many components, but certainly not to the point that it would require 8K employees.That is a good website for getting a quick overview of a lot of the shit that goes into just working with Twitter as a non-Twitter developer - as in someone who is merely wanting to create a Twitter app or integrate Twitter into what they do (like advertising, for example), not someone who works to maintain Twitter.com on a daily basis (which would be even more complex)Twitter Developer Platform overview
Learn more about what is available on the Twitter Developer Platform, and what tools and resources are available to help you get started, set up, and optimize your integration.
It's vastly more complex than just type a sentence, press submit, and boom it just magically appears. That would be like saying all that it takes to run a college basketball program is to get a handful of players who can run and shoot.
- Dozens (if not hundreds) of APIs and libraries that essentially control every aspect of Twitter - both on Twitter.com and throughout external sources
- Numerous algorithms (home feed, trending topics, suggested follows, and many more)
- Advertising
- Video and audio encoding
- Maintaining ADA accessibility standards, which is not exactly easy to do
- Content moderation
- Privacy
- Safety and security
- Maintaining servers
- Coding
- Analytics
- Direct messaging
- Super Follows (which is subscriptions for paywalled content)
- Twitter Spaces (live audio conversations)
- Supporting 34 languages
- Maintaining a developer platform
- Legal stuff like staying in compliance with laws in hundreds of countries
So you barely know anything about the platform, but yet you know how many people it takes to run the company? 🤣
What's next, you going to explain what the female orgasm feels like?
Well, since most seem to admit they barely work, I'd say he's correct, it doesn't take 7-8K workers to keep Twitter going. Musk is doing the right thing. He is purging the lazy, radical leftists. Then he'll hire as he needs to in order for Twitter to function fully and grow.
He has to get rid of the dead wood and there is plenty of it.
So you do a search and pull up bullet points to take a position. Got it. Do you know what it actually means and how their tiers are set up and managed?
In other words, if you’re not currently or were a Twitter software engineer, you’re just quoting info, not providing any insight on what is needed to support or develop.
I know how to Google too, bro. I could be running Twitter in 15 minutes and firing people faster than Elon.
Yes, I have a working understanding of how APIs, libraries, and programming works. Not Twitter's APIs and libraries since I've never worked with theirs, but I have with APIs and libraries that were specific to where I was working. And their coding languages are obviously industry standards, though I can't say I have written code in all of them.
I can swing by your gals house this weekend so you can at least see what it looks like for the first time…
I know the difference between your and you're without using Google.
How dare you assume it's a gal!
Most if not all industries do not expect their developers to do so in multiple languages. Guessing that Twitter developers are specialists and not generalists. Too big to be generalists.
It’s going to be a multi-tiered system with the back/end being a data and communication base in a cloud architecture. Pretty sure they would use a provider to manage that as n AWS, IBM, etc. More efficient and economical for the company which means Twitter doesn’t manage the infrastructure but needs a working knowledge of his ts set up.
Middle layer is the business layer which has API’s connecting to the backend and front end. Should contain the business rules and manages the interaction from front and back ends. Guessing the API’s are written in the same language as it doesn’t make any sense to cross-pollinate languages in that component.
Front end, which is what the end user sees is a bit more involved because you have different desktop OS’s but more importantly, the mobile OS’s such as Android, Apple, etc and all the configurations of OS versions for each.
And Security is paramount in any application - not unique to Twitter at all. Every company has to deal with that. How many it takes to support all that is an internal discussion and decision.
It’s going to be a multi-tiered system with the back/end being a data and communication base in a cloud architecture. Pretty sure they would use a provider to manage that as n AWS, IBM, etc. More efficient and economical for the company which means Twitter doesn’t manage the infrastructure but needs a working knowledge of his ts set up.
Middle layer is the business layer which has API’s connecting to the backend and front end. Should contain the business rules and manages the interaction from front and back ends. Guessing the API’s are written in the same language as it doesn’t make any sense to cross-pollinate languages in that component.
Front end, which is what the end user sees is a bit more involved because you have different desktop OS’s but more importantly, the mobile OS’s such as Android, Apple, etc and all the configurations of OS versions for each.
And Security is paramount in any application - not unique to Twitter at all. Every company has to deal with that. How many it takes to support all that is an internal discussion and decision.
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- Have most current and/or former employees admitted they barely work?
- Do you know the appropriate number of employees needed to keep Twitter going? I admit, 7-8k seems like a high number, but none of us really know. It is a worldwide company after all.
- I'm not sure if there's a right wing machine that poops you guys out, but a liberal does not automatically equal "radical leftist" and saying he's "purging the lazy, radical leftists" is asinine. You've taken it upon yourself to creative a false narrative that Musk is simply getting rid of "the lazy, radical leftists" even though you have no idea if that description fits the situation or the employees themselves.
- How to you know there's plenty of dead wood at the company? Do you work there as well?
Come on do better. That’s a phone thing and you’re still not “owning” someone with grammatical errors.
Definitely not a phone thing. My phone has never changed the correct usage of your to the incorrect usage of you're.
Well mine has. Well, we’ll, we’re, were stuff happens every day for me. It honestly feels like it does the opposite every time and it’s 50/50.
^ Damnit. Educating you guys in IT and you’re arguing over word replacement. Do better. 😊
Hey man, I lived in the Keys for over a decade, NO ONE uses computers. There’s no need. Hell, I came into my new job here in Lex and my computer was off and I asked the front desk where the “tower” was so I could turn it on. He said the screen IS the computer. I was like no not the screen, the computer. He said okay boomer, let me turn it on for you. Turns it on and boom a computer. I had ZERO idea that was a thing. I’m 40. Touch your tech advances, I don’t want them lol.
Did you ask him if you could have a rotary phone for your desk too?
I’m definitely a boomer but the ‘screen’ is not the computer (CPU). It was probably ‘asleep’. Must have been a laptop connected to backend servers.
Hey, we all need to evolve but we choose our individual change path.
Hey, we all need to evolve but we choose our individual change path.
My guess is a vast majority of people have no idea that the alphabet is divided among the numbers on the phone. Gives us old guys an advantage.
Yup! I tell people all the time about a password of mine when they need it and I’m like, it spells chunker or whatever on the phone and they’re like how?
Question of the day:
A popular talking point is that Twitter is a plague on society. Is Twitter the culprit or is it the people that use it? Everyone used to have opinions, some of which they kept to themselves. Now those opinions are considered fact because the user saw a meme they liked or a tweet or post they agreed with. People can complain about social media all they like, but it's us that created the content.
The youngest generation will always get shit on the most, but ask yourselves why they ran like hell off of platforms like Facebook and Twitter. Social media should be fun but a large portion of society (ie other generations) wants it to be chaos and arguing instead. I don't recall Myspace being that, so it's the user of these platforms that's changed for the worse, not social media itself. So Musk can try to help or destroy what he purchased, but nothing changes until we change (no, I didn't just watch Rocky IV).
A popular talking point is that Twitter is a plague on society. Is Twitter the culprit or is it the people that use it? Everyone used to have opinions, some of which they kept to themselves. Now those opinions are considered fact because the user saw a meme they liked or a tweet or post they agreed with. People can complain about social media all they like, but it's us that created the content.
The youngest generation will always get shit on the most, but ask yourselves why they ran like hell off of platforms like Facebook and Twitter. Social media should be fun but a large portion of society (ie other generations) wants it to be chaos and arguing instead. I don't recall Myspace being that, so it's the user of these platforms that's changed for the worse, not social media itself. So Musk can try to help or destroy what he purchased, but nothing changes until we change (no, I didn't just watch Rocky IV).
The early era of text messaging was wild. Press 7 four times for "s". Took 20 minutes to send a two sentence text. 🤣
This is 100% true. Giving everyone a global voice was never a good idea. Now, super Christian grandma and cousin Ronny and brother randy can get out there and really tell the world how it should be! I mean, it SHOULD be a good idea but the fact that the USAs collective IQ is below 100 (the designed average hence were below average) tells you enough. The “average” person likely has an IQ of 100 or less. You’re giving dullards a platform to voice dumb. And they took to it like a bulldog in a hubcap factory. Now people are like, “don’t take my platform away! Well randy, you proved to be too stupid to use it so bye.
Dead wood? Both Elon and Jack have said so. As for the rest, I suggest you don't count on working at Twitter. You too smart
I think this is fair and accurate.
I think of social media like a huge whiteboard where anyone can walk up and write their thoughts. Sometimes you get poets, graffiti artists,perverse authors. It’s just a whiteboard. People make the stains on it or the shine.
Elon walked into a viper den. He may be the the owner, but he has been considered an enemy of a particular political faction that held power over the platform. The platform just so happened to be one of the primary vehicles to disseminate information in accordance to that classes views. Taking it over is a direct assault to them.
Firing hostile employees is a necessity to wrest control the company. Otherwise the indignant labor would obstruct his vision. The cases of employees expressing open animosity on the very platform he now controls is an example of that.
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Musk is avoiding the mistake that Trump made: you gotta clean house.
It hurt Trump badly... maybe Musk learned something?
It hurt Trump badly... maybe Musk learned something?
As someone whose entire life revolves around software development and who has worked in some capacity in most roles in the world of enterprise development… I find the civilian takes on software engineering to be entertaining.
Its best when they start projecting their politics on developers. You know what most developers care about? Money and tech. It’s not much deeper
Its best when they start projecting their politics on developers. You know what most developers care about? Money and tech. It’s not much deeper
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