OT: Most likely to miss the NCAA tourney: UNC-Cheats or IUse2Be

[MdWIldcat55]

Cheats: 13-9 (6-4 ACC) Next Three: Duke, Pitt, Clemson (1-7 Quad 1. Best win, UCLA.)

Hoosiers: 14-7 (5-5 B-10) Next Four: Purdue, WIsconsin, Michigan, Michigan State (2-7 Quad 1. Best win, Ohio State in OT.)

Honestly, both are in real jeopardy. But the ACC is so soft, the Cheaters have a chance to get to some magic number of wins, without having anything really on their resume besides a win over UCLA that is fading fast in significance. But...Hubert Davis.

Indiana has more chances to improve in Quad-1 performances. But...Mike Woodson.

I'll say the Hoosiers completely collapse and miss the tourney while the CHeats are a "last four in" type.

 

[WeWant9]

I think you have their conference records swapped. Neither team is deserving of getting in. Maybe if unc can beat duke twice, but they’ve looked terrible in a bad acc.

 

[will1976]

Indiana is Out. Mostly due to the ineptitude of Mike Woodson. I love it after they were ranked!

 

[Wildcat-in-STL]

UNC has to win the ACC tournament, winning out the regular season doesnt improve their metrics enough to get into the tournament and they arent beating Clemson, UL or Duke in the ACC tournament so for sure they are out, the only question is will IU also be out. IU has the ability to win enough to get in but we'll see.

 

[St.PatterSoN-54-]

1-7 Quad 1.

HOOOOOO-BOOOOOOYYYY.

That's CHARMIN Soft.

Hubert better locate his glasses bc he's about to clear out his powder blue office.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Hubert is above criticism. Just needs time.

Woodson as well. Microwave society.

 

[dckala2]

Anyone know what Caleb Wilson’s bag was to go there? Definitely didn’t commit for hubey

 

[bbncal02]

Indiana is Out. Mostly due to the ineptitude of Mike Woodson. I love it after they were ranked!

2 million dollars spent on NILand Ballo blowing at casinos. Only to miss the tourney Even if IU is not what they used to be that won’t fly there. Woodson might be done.

 

[fisherscatfan]

2 million dollars spent on NILand Ballo blowing at casinos. Only to miss the tourney Even if IU is not what they used to be that won’t fly there. Woodson might be done.

Going to be interesting. The heat is definitely turning up on Woodson despite what he and his buddy Buckner think. IU isn’t likely to be lucky enough for Woodson to step down. Maybe Johnny Cougar will step up for the buyout.

 

[fisherscatfan]

Cheats: 13-9 (6-4 ACC) Next Three: Duke, Pitt, Clemson (1-7 Quad 1. Best win, UCLA.)

Hoosiers: 14-7 (5-5 B-10) Next Four: Purdue, WIsconsin, Michigan, Michigan State (2-7 Quad 1. Best win, Ohio State in OT.)

Honestly, both are in real jeopardy. But the ACC is so soft, the Cheaters have a chance to get to some magic number of wins, without having anything really on their resume besides a win over UCLA that is fading fast in significance. But...Hubert Davis.

Indiana has more chances to improve in Quad-1 performances. But...Mike Woodson.

I'll say the Hoosiers completely collapse and miss the tourney while the CHeats are a "last four in" type.

IU has the best shot to pick up quality wins but will they? IU basketball is a hot mess right now and it may get ugly.

UNC wins the games they should which are much easier than IU’s games and their name gives them a better shot in my opinion.

 

[JFCats22]

Right now they are both out.

UNC is 42 in the Net and 39 in KenPom. That’s close to a bubble team.

IU is 68 in the Net and 62 in KenPom. They aren’t even close to being an NCAAT team right now.

 

[bbncal02]

Going to be interesting. The heat is definitely turning up on Woodson despite what he and his buddy Buckner think. IU isn’t likely to be lucky enough for Woodson to step down. Maybe Johnny Cougar will step up for the buyout.

As much as I laugh at IU and don't care for them, they deserve a bit better than what they are getting.

 

[bbncal02]

Right now they are both out.

UNC is 42 in the Net and 39 in KenPom. That’s close to a bubble team.

IU is 68 in the Net and 62 in KenPom. They aren’t even close to being an NCAAT team right now.

And being a bubble team in a very weak ACC (who is like 5-42 against T25 competition) means you shouldn't get in.

 

[JumperJack]

I know I’ll get blasted but I don’t mind- I liked it when IU was good. Those games, and I went to a few in person, were so intense that I remember the hatred- actual hate. Right now I only feel it for Duke or KU.

 

[Dontworryboutit23]

Speaking of the tourney lunardi still doesn’t have us as a lock for the tourney even with all the wins Kentucky has

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

As much as I laugh at IU and don't care for them, they deserve a bit better than what they are getting.

As bad as they’ve been I still see IU gear all the way down here in Charleston.

 

[fisherscatfan]

Right now they are both out.

UNC is 42 in the Net and 39 in KenPom. That’s close to a bubble team.

IU is 68 in the Net and 62 in KenPom. They aren’t even close to being an NCAAT team right now.

Plus IU is looking at 7 more losses if they don’t figure it out. I dont think they will figure it out because of Woodson. If IU could figure it out they could move up but I just dont see it.

 

[bbncal02]

Speaking of the tourney lunardi still doesn’t have us as a lock for the tourney even with all the wins Kentucky has

Then he's dumb as hell. WTF is he smoking?

 

[bbncal02]

As bad as they’ve been I still see IU gear all the way down here in Charleston.

I mean historically they are one of the best teams to play CBB. They have five titles. The problem is they haven't had one this century.

 

[cathead64]

i’m going with the fighting Tom Creans

 

[Montana81]

I think UNC is about finished. IU has tons of chances left to get Q1 wins.

But i’d bet on both missing. The Big12, B1G and SEC are going to eat up most of the at large bids this year.


I just looked through the NET and I counted about 34 teams just from the SEC, B1G, Big12 and Big East alone that i’d say have better metrics than UNC and IU. 4 of those teams will get the auto bid. But then add UL, Clemson, Duke and arguably Pitt now from the ACC. 1 more auto bid. You’re still at 33 not even counting mid majors. A few of which will still likely take an at large spot.

Yeah…UNC and IU maybe cooked. But we’ll see. Still a lot of games to play.

 

[Fox2monk]

Cheats: 13-9 (6-4 ACC) Next Three: Duke, Pitt, Clemson (1-7 Quad 1. Best win, UCLA.)

Hoosiers: 14-7 (5-5 B-10) Next Four: Purdue, WIsconsin, Michigan, Michigan State (2-7 Quad 1. Best win, Ohio State in OT.)

Honestly, both are in real jeopardy. But the ACC is so soft, the Cheaters have a chance to get to some magic number of wins, without having anything really on their resume besides a win over UCLA that is fading fast in significance. But...Hubert Davis.

Indiana has more chances to improve in Quad-1 performances. But...Mike Woodson.

I'll say the Hoosiers completely collapse and miss the tourney while the CHeats are a "last four in" type.

UNC prolly squeaks in, but in reality I think both should miss it. We all know if there is any sliver like they beat Duke, they could lose out and still be considered.

 

[Fox2monk]

I think UNC is about finished. IU has tons of chances left to get Q1 wins.

But i’d bet on both missing. The Big12, B1G and SEC are going to eat up most of the at large bids this year.


I just looked through the NET and I counted about 34 teams just from the SEC, B1G, Big12 and Big East alone that i’d say have better metrics than UNC and IU. 4 of those teams will get the auto bid. But then add UL, Clemson, Duke and arguably Pitt now from the ACC. 1 more auto bid. You’re still at 33 not even counting mid majors. A few of which will still likely take an at large spot.

Yeah…UNC and IU maybe cooked. But we’ll see. Still a lot of games to play.

They would both have to rely on every mid major favorite getting their auto bid.

 

[Montana81]

They would both have to rely on every mid major favorite getting their auto bid.

There are 12 SEC teams right now that are both higher in the NET AND have more Quad 1 wins than UNC’s 1. And then a 13th, Oklahoma, that is only 4 spots behind them in the NET but have 3 more Quad 1 wins.

If the field were picked today there are 13 SEC teams that would be safely in imo. Only Arkansas, LSU and South Carolina would be out.



The ACC is so so bad. They are not getting 5 teams in unless the tourney winner comes from outside that top 4. They may not get 4 in. If it’s selection sunday and you only have 1 or 2 Q1 wins this year, you’re probably screwed.

 

[Fox2monk]

There are 12 SEC teams right now that are both higher in the NET AND have more Quad 1 wins than UNC’s 1. And then a 13th, Oklahoma, that is only 4 spots behind them in the NET but have 3 more Quad 1 wins.

If the field were picked today there are 13 SEC teams that would be safely in imo. Only Arkansas, LSU and South Carolina would be out.

Just saw Pitt is ahead of UNC in NET as well and has the same amount of Q1 and Q2 wins (1/4). So that’s another team ahead of them.

The ACC is so so bad. They are not getting 5 teams in unless the tourney winner comes from outside that top 4. They may not get 4 in. If it’s selection sunday and you only have 1 or 2 Q1 wins this year, you’re probably screwed.

Man that shows how bad Calipari has been this year. 13 teams in the SEC can get an at large and he manages to not be one of them.

 

[NewHock15]

I could see UNC somehow getting an 11 seed in a play in game, even if they don't deserve the spot.

 

[hotelblue]

it goes against selection committee history, but unc is probably not making the tournament.

even if they should happen to beat duke once. they’re going to have 13-14 losses, and they’re resume is bad. a .500 big ten/sec team should get in way before them. the above poster is right, they basically have to win the acct.

they had a chance early in the year to build some confidence, but they lost every marquee game. you have to win your share of those, and at least 1-2 of them. they have no impressive wins.

 

[yoshukai]

1-7 Quad 1.

HOOOOOO-BOOOOOOYYYY.

That's CHARMIN Soft.

Hubert better locate his glasses bc he's about to clear out his powder blue office.

And going in to last nights game Lunardi had them in the tournament. Surely he doesn’t now .