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Oklahoma State attempting to strongarm Gundy out of a job (attached his record for reference).

Gundy …normally stubborn to hang on to staff ….has gutted everyone from it this offseason. See what he can do with new blood and new ideas is fair enough with his history there. That said , ‘25 is likely a ‘prove it ‘ yr for him
He was 10-4 last year. Did that prove anything?
 
So we’re either going to fire you for cause OR give you a new contract. LOL. I call BS on the “for cause” crap.
All you have to do is claim ‘for cause ‘, knowing it isn’t right . It puts the onus on the coach to lawyer up and usually leads to a settlement
 
The idea that Stoops should be approached with a reduced buyout offer isn’t unique or crazy at all.
That would normally only happen if each side doesn't want to continue, but knowing it's too costly to sever things unilaterally.
I totally ignore statements from Stoops or Barnhart, they mean absolutely zero. All coaches want to be there until they don't and all ADs give coaches on the hot seat the dreaded voice of approval. IMO even insiders would not be aware of a crack until it comes.
 
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All you have to do is claim ‘for cause ‘, knowing it isn’t right . It puts the onus on the coach to lawyer up and usually leads to a settlement
I’m not a lawyer, I’ll take your word for that. All I’m saying is that there would be no talk of a restructured contract if they had a morally legitimate reason to fire him for cause. That’s just pure BS.
 
No they didn't. Alabama and LSU were clearly the best 2 teams.

I know you have this fascination with let the cupcakes have their chance and you get it with the 12 team playoff so there's that.

ALAMABAMA AND LSU were, but I think the poster may have meant more seriously considered in the discussion. There have been a lot more years the SEC Championship was the title game, maybe more so than the BCS.
 
I’m not a lawyer, I’ll take your word for that. All I’m saying is that there would be no talk of a restructured contract if they had a morally legitimate reason to fire him for cause. That’s just pure BS.
True. He took the restructuring….which savings will ultimately be directed to NIL, which ought to improve his roster. So everyone should benefit
 
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“On3’s Pete Nakos also reported Oklahoma State planned to cut Gundy’s base salary and re-allocate those funds to going all-in on NIL, should he agree. If Gundy didn’t, the school would terminate his contract”. 🤔
 
I’m sure many of you have seen that Oklahoma State is trying to get Gundy to agree to a “restructured contract” after their bad season and they’re either still at a standoff, or depending on source, some smoke he’s been let go tonight. This is an interesting case because we hear from Stoops supporters that “it’s one bad season”. Even Vince himself said the same on KSR. However, stumbled on a tweet with Gundy’s full tenure detailed. Check out those 10 win seasons, the recent success, etc. They’re still trying to chop his head in spite of those things. The idea that Stoops should be approached with a reduced buyout offer isn’t unique or crazy at all.


OSU and UK are not comparable.

"Oklahoma State claims one national championship in 1945 (awarded by the AFCA) in addition to eleven conference championships, and the team has also appeared in 34 bowl games, amassing a 22-12 bowl game record, which include 5 victories in New Year's Six bowl games."

UK has won 10 games 3 times total. No conference titles. One claimed title not given by anyone in the media that I know of...
Oklahoma is a football state surrounded by football states. They have history and tradition in football. They have Heisman trophy winner and tons of All-Americans.

"The Cowboys have produced 66 All-Americans with 50 being first-team (20 consensus, 8 unanimous) selections. Running back Barry Sanders won the Heisman Trophy in 1988, and the school has had 8 former players and coaches inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame."
 
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OSU and UK are not comparable.

"Oklahoma State claims one national championship in 1945 (awarded by the AFCA) in addition to eleven conference championships, and the team has also appeared in 34 bowl games, amassing a 22-12 bowl game record, which include 5 victories in New Year's Six bowl games."
UK has won 10 games 3 times total. No conference titles. One claimed title not given by anyone in the media that I know of...
Oklahoma is a football state surrounded by football states. They have history and tradition in football. They have Heisman trophy winners.

"The Cowboys have produced 66 All-Americans with 50 being first-team (20 consensus, 8 unanimous) selections. Running back Barry Sanders won the Heisman Trophy in 1988, and the school has had 8 former players and coaches inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame."
Recruiting now @ OSU against the much wealthier SEC teams Texas & Oklahoma ( previously big 12) has changed the landscape at OK State a lot and in a hurry. Recruits in talent rich OK and TX simply have better opportunities and deals In the SEC..throw in SEC’s Texas A&M also
 
Recruiting now @ OSU against the much wealthier SEC teams Texas & Oklahoma ( previously big 12) has changed the landscape at OK State a lot and in a hurry. Recruits in talent rich OK and TX simply have better opportunities and deals In the SEC..throw in SEC’s Texas A&M also

They've always had those issues, though. It's more about money now and OSU has an easier path to the playoff than any SEC school.
 
They've always had those issues, though. It's more about money now and OSU has an easier path to the playoff than any SEC school.
I read where T Boone Pickens endowed the OSU athletic dept about $300 milion in his will . That’s where the money stays in Pickens heirs name , but OSU Athletics gets to keep the monthly interest. That much, invested conservatively, should give them >$1 million per month income for NIL or whatever
 
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Its a whole new major college football world especially in the sec. Imo fans need to understand there will be wild swings. If you have a coach that showed an ability to navigate modern football, better keep him even if there is a down year.
 
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They’ll never get away with ‘with cause ‘ , but it puts on the onus on the coach to lawyer up …that usually leads to a settlement, instead of a 1-2 yr process. Why not try every firing ‘with cause ‘
Good agent would include attorney fee provision in favor of coach... i.e. fire me "for cause" I challenge and prevail, you pay my legal bills on top of contract. I'd be surprised if many don't.
 
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