That court, along with every other Emirates Cup/In-season Tournament courts are an abomination. Additionally, no court should EVER EVER be fully red.
Refs help Houston win this one, and Curry is still playing injured.
Official Steph Curry is GOAT thread
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Refs help Houston win this one, and Curry is still playing injured.
Lol, sure seems to me that GSW was able to get away with their usual BS, and then it didn't work down the stretch. This IS a home game for Houston, FYI.. Golden State isn't supposed to be given calls on the road.
And Curry missed a pretty wide-open 3 to ice the game, but he couldn't hit. I know you won't believe this, but for the greatest 3pt shooter ever, he is wildly un-clutch in the final seconds.
Warriors get a lot better by sending Melton + 3 SRPs to the Nets for Schoeder and a SRP. Steph is finally getting the help he deserves. I expect Steph's percentages to jump.
He had tons of help in the 2015-19 years, but he hasn't had much since. Kuminga has been a real disappointment. Green is still ok, but is aging, Klay had two major injuries, and they have no capable backup PG. Until now.
One of the few things we will agree on. GSW fleeced the Nets, who are clearly not trying to win meaningless games.
It does seem that Golden State has had some tough time drafting though.. Kuminga and Wiseman just haven't panned out. Klay is gone, and Draymond is getting old. Poole was shipped out. GSW isn't going to win anything the way they are built now.
All that said, Steph Curry has STILL had more help than almost any other top10 player, outside of a guy like Lebron (who has been hand picking his teams). Hard for me to feel bad that for the last few years, Steph had to carry the load on his own. Plenty of stars have to do that for large chunks of their careers. This is the first time in Stephs entire NBA career that he doesn't have the absolute best team around him.
No, that doesn't happen to GOATs in their prime. Guys like Lebron and Jordan didn't get thrown off by a new player so badly that they literally couldn't have an impact on the game.
This really just goes to show you that Steph is just a little too one-dimensional than what the real GOATS are. I'm not saying he can't have great assist games or score some long rebounds, but far too much of his game is predicated on shooting 2/3rds of his FGs as 3's.
Heck I think one year LeBron traded 5 players on the cavs and got 5 new ones and it didn’t cause him to have this kind of game.
So each time Steph has a bad game, he RESPONDS. How about that 11-0 run in 90 seconds in the clutch? Poor guy has to bail his team out again. BTW - the T-Wolves are so much worse without KAT.
Just curious where you stand now in this whole GOAT debate now that it's been a few years.
I didn't realize this was from 2015. So you'd be excused for *maybe* thinking he's the GOAT after their 1st title (but that's still such a knee jerk reaction). But I don't think anyone will take someone seriously who thinks Steph is anywhere near the same level that Jordan and LeBron are, titles or not. Steph was supposed to surpass LeBron because of their age, but that literally never happened at any time. LeBron has been at least on the same level, won a title a few years ago, keeping the poorly run/coached Lakers fairly competitive. Which is basically what Steph is doing.. keeping Golden State somewhat competitive.. although they can win without him and they are much better coached and managed.
I think we need to understand the IMPACT and INFLUENCE that Steph has had in this league. Look at what he did last night; dropping 38 on Christmas with clutch make after clutch make. Along with the stats, along with the championships, I think it's fair that Steph is up there for the GOAT debate when you weigh everything out. And he's 6'3" 190.
The impact and influence as to the record low ratings citing the excessive 3 point shooting around the league?
The problem is, teams were already moving to this style of play before Steph even got there. Orlando Magic were playing a lot of this style with Hedo and company, where like 6 guys were shooting 35% or greater from the 3pt line.
Obviously Curry blew this style up, cant deny that. But it's a weak style to watch. And it's not very taxing on the body when 2/3rds of the time you running around the 3pt line (that's a fact, btw).
The 4 titles means he's always going to be in the top10. But I'm not at all convinced he's truly a top25 player of all time. Like I don't believe Curry is a better overall basketball player than someone like Tim Duncan, or Dirk or Kobe, or Kevin Durant, not at all. He was a great PG, but also had a gimmick factor to his play, which exploited the way the NBA was played, and he always had a heck of a team around him to help.
He's certainly not on the level of Jordan or Lebron. That conversation has been put to bed now that Lebron is on year 20 or whatever and still putting out double doubles.
HGH is a real thing, and Lebron is playing well still. But Steph was PERFECT from the three tonight in a win over Philly. He made ALL EIGHT of his threes, including three 30-footers. He's still has that magic, but he's been banged up. The three-point shot is the most efficient shot in the game, so why not? He shoots a lot of threes, and converts at a 43% rate, which is a 65% eFG. Why not shoot? His intangibles and his leadership has to count for something, and he's doing this at only 6'2"! I started this thread more than nine years ago, and he's still cooking. Tonight:
1) Was his best start from three without a miss (8)
2) His most threes in a game without a miss (8), and is tied for second overall (three players hit nine - plenty of others have STARTED 8-8, but eventually missed; two players started 10-10, but missed their next shot)
3) His second perfect three-point shooting game with six or more makes (April 9, 2023), and his third 6-6 or better start in less than one year.
4) Steph needs to hit his next three to have a career high for consecutive three point makes (10 in 2016); he would need to hit his next six to break the all-time consecutive three point makes in NBA history (2 have hit 13).
He is nearing 4,000 career threes. Amazing.
LeBron had 7/10 3s last night - what you act like is some impossible feat is not really as abnormal as you think in a league everyone is shooting 3 pointers.
I think even Jalyen Bronson had a 8/8 3 pointers in a game last year.
Wenyen Gabriel went 7 for 7 from the 3 as a sophomore. When does he get his GOAT status?
Also multiple people have gone 9/9 from 3.
The NBA record for most 3-pointers made in a game without a miss is 9, shared by three players (Jalen Brunson, Ben Gordon and Latrell Sprewell).
The NBA record for most 3-pointers made in a game without a miss is 9, shared by three players (Jalen Brunson, Ben Gordon and Latrell Sprewell).
That's what I said in item #2. Ben Gordon did it twice. I believe the last player to start 8-8 or better was KAT last January. He ended up like 10-15. Jalen Brunson went 9-9 in Phoenix last season.
