This is a great start and it shouldn't have been unexpected. It's a great start because we need to move out most of what was Cal and bring in what will be Pope. Flush the system out. I am not against anyone staying who wants to, but IMO starting fresh in Pope's vision of a roster is better for us in the long run. In fact, I was already on board and still am if it means we have a subpar year one. I know most won't accept that, but if they make the tourney next year after starting completely over then I will be pleased. Nothing that has happened so far was unexpected for me.
Not a great start for roster building
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Pitino improved the program his first year. We went from a losing program to a 14-14 record. Cal got the team to the first round of the NCAA tournament. I'm not even saying that Pope should do better. My point is that we should not regress. Cal made it to the tournament we should hold Pope to at least the same standard. I cannot believe I am on a Kentucky basketball forum having to argue that we should make the tournament. How are we here arguing about whether making the NCAA tournament is a level we should all hold Kentucky basketball to?
DJ’s shot was broken. He had a couple of decent games but he was not a high priority for me at all.
Stop with the we. You're just another one of the many new accounts that have spawned in the last week or so. Your first post was reasonable in the thread then you posted again and showed your true troll colors next. Guess who also didn't make the tourney in 20-21? You guessed it and getting bounced in the first round multiple times is essentially not making it as well. At best that's a participation trophy. So stop spewing garbage and stop fear mongering
Again, that bar of low expectations just departed for Fayetteville. We can expect to win the lottery for all the good it will do any of us. We expect the program will be rebuilt the right way by a coach that can coach. That's the bare minimum expectation.
At this point, as it always is with a new coach, it's all faith based.
You think I am fear-mongering in stating that the standard we should hold as a community is making the tournament? By the way, I felt we should have gotten rid of Cal too I just was hoping for someone better than Pope.
I think we got the right guy. He can coach circles around Cal and is one of our own. His IQ is off the charts. It’s day one. He gave us a championship we can at least give him a chance. I don’t think we will be disappointed.
Too many people right now.......
Act like you've been through a coaching change before.
We are not arguing about that. We are arguing about you saying under any circumstances. Pitino missed the tournament his first year so he should have been fired because we don’t miss the tournament under any circumstances. It’s just preposterous. There can be extenuating circumstances.
Some guys will see the 22k at the presser and say not for me. Some like to be in college, play and not be bothered. Others will look at it and say I want to be there and do not fit Pope's style. It will take a few (10 or so guys) maybe not all portal guys, to go along with Perry and maybe / probably not / Reed to make up the roster. Mark probably has specific things he wants in place, staff (key staff not all), then players and finally finish filling the staff. I would say CMP will get little rest over the next 30 to 45 days. After that he will be trying to build the schedule and implementing (strength and conditioning) his needs on the guys he signed.
Mediocrity was what Cal was delivering. You sure were quiet the last 4 years. Hmmm...
Mods,
He's saying he wants to be banned. We simply can't accept his repetitious, mediocre posts anymore. Please set a higher standard for his sake AND ours...
I've thought about this for a while, too. He's in a much better NIL negotiating position if he reopens his recruitment, but then if he delays at this point the staff might just move on from him. He clearly wants to be a Cat. He still has to be recruited like he's wanted.
This IS a different era, in that kids need to be fawned over and both consistently and constantly recruited, over and over again. If they're not being told how wanted and needed they are, many start to mope and drag. They'd rather be lied to than told the truth most of the time.
Are you serious? You have nothing better to do here than personally attack me? I stated a position that a minimum expectation at Kentucky should be making the NCAA tournament and this is your reaction? You edit my post and you lie on a forum to discuss basketball. You seriously need to reexamine your life choices. I hope you get the help you so clearly need.
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In the past this would happen 100%. Now with the portal, you can get 4-6 really good players.
Look at TN,AU ECT. They pretty much have to rebuild this year as well! All due to the portal and NIL! Pope should be able to get some solid players in here if he is good at selling his system!
Every kid that plays for pope won't shoot 35+% . His offense takes a lot of threes , therefore they make a lot.
I remember when Loyola Chicago were making runs in the tournament and wondering if that style could bring in top level talent. I was unsure then and still unsure. Well coached fundamentals go farther than under coached talent.
Kansas State literally built a team from scratch over the summer two years ago and almost made the final 4, its doable for sure, just give Pope time, the roster will
Come together.
Come together.
Is this the 1st time players left after 1 season? They were gone regardless.
