National writer finally calls out UNC/Huckleberry
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Damn, she's swinging haymakers ...
Williams can spin just about anything with his folksy charm and golly-gee-whiz self-deprecation. But not this. Not when the independent investigator appointed by North Carolina found that, for 18 years, more than 3,000 students, almost half of whom were athletes, got bogus grades for classes that didn’t exist.
Williams can spin just about anything with his folksy charm and golly-gee-whiz self-deprecation. But not this. Not when the independent investigator appointed by North Carolina found that, for 18 years, more than 3,000 students, almost half of whom were athletes, got bogus grades for classes that didn’t exist.
Definitely!
AND how in the hell can old Roy still claim that 'we didn't do anything wrong' with the new NOA: "To its credit, the NCAA didn’t take kindly to that and responded by slapping North Carolina with a third NOA in December. This one restored the references to football and men’s basketball, and still includes the dreaded “lack of institutional control.”
Because he didn't do anything wrong. The NCAA has not once stated that Roy Williams did anything wrong. In fact, the NCAA cleared Roy Williams of any wrongdoing.
Again, knowing the facts is always helpful when you want to talk about something.
USA Today is fake, liberal trash. Hucklberry is an honorable man. Drinks cole colers and praises jeebus on Sundays. Builds mens character, just happens to coach ball on the side.
Victim of slanderous innuendo jus like Jimmy Nantz said
Victim of slanderous innuendo jus like Jimmy Nantz said
Well, right here is one: "Some of those grades allowed athletes to stay eligible." There is no proof of this. This is an opinion. And it usually comes from someone who wants to believe this is what happened.
One could claim that a class that only gives one exam at UK keeps UK one-and-doners eligible. Etc. Just saying it doesn't make it true though.
Really just scratches the surface. But I guess we should be grateful for any attention being paid to this today.
I hope Gonzaga breaks their hearts with a buzzer beater tonight just like Villanova did last year. Would be poetic justice if not real justice.
I hope Gonzaga breaks their hearts with a buzzer beater tonight just like Villanova did last year. Would be poetic justice if not real justice.
Except Rashad McCants' transcript makes that a factual statement.
A copy of McCants' university transcript, labeled "unofficial" and obtained by "Outside the Lines," shows that in his non-African-American Studies classes, McCants received six C's, one D and three F's. In his African-American Studies classes, 10 of his grades were A's, six B's, one a C and one a D.
Anything else in that article that you feel is opinionated?
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Huckleberry said "WE". Working on your reading comprehension is also important if you want to discuss such matters. Dipshit.
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In the 2009 post-title win speech at their banquet, ole Roy heaped mountains of praise on Wayne Walden for being his most valuable asset, and that he kept on top of every aspect of his players academics. But he did nothing wrong. Ok. How's that Kool-Aid?
He gone ... was fun while it lasted though. Considering how underprepared he was to have this discussion, I hope the mods don't ban him.GL's reply...
Just like Coach Cal. NCAA cleared him personally of any wrongdoings. Still vacated wins including FF. Do you think the UNC case will end the same way?
Of course this situation is a little different because it spanned decades and an entire curriculum and thousands of athletes and students. Just semantics I suppose.
Ole Roy is dirty and UNC should be punished for letting the Players use free cars under his watch alone. Keep sticking your head in the sand every coach at UNC starting with Dean Smith was dirty.
No it doesn't. If those classes were not there, McCants would have taken other classes. How do you know he would have failed those classes and thus been ineligible? In order to believe that, one has to make an assumption. You can't argue backwards. Not to mention that most of what McCants says is suspect because (1) he refuses to make his claims under oath with the threat of perjury hanging over his head, (2) most of his claims are completely rejected as untrue by every one of his teammates.
And btw, keep in mind, not all of the AFAM department classes were suspect.
Also Roy Williams personal guy Wayne Walden who was with him for 15+ years and came with him to UNC from Kansas was the "academic support advisor" for the men's basketball team. there is no way one of your best friends is in charge of your team's academic performance and you don't have any idea of what he is doing to keep your players eligible.
This is an opinion. If that is your opinion, fine. But there are no facts to back up your opinion and the NCAA has cleared 'ole Roy of any wrong doing.
If you disagree, fine. But at least admit it is your opinion, and not a fact. Just as the above article is an opinion piece.
McCants said he neither went to class nor wrote any papers. I guess that would have served him well at getting great grades in other UNC "classes".
It was Wayne Walden, and you're right, unless he told him do whatever you gotta do, but I don't wanna know about it, and even then he is still accountable for it.
I'll concede that Roy knew nothing if you'll concede that a full generation worth of fake classes is a stupid thing for UNC fans to try to hem and haw about when it comes to punishment, and that all of your little nitpicks are equivalent to rearranging the shrapnel in a pretty pattern after the nuke has gone off.
If you concede that if you found out about this at any other school, given the evidence, you'd be saying that the banners should come down.
If you concede that Roy is really secondary to this, and that the main point is whether or not you were playing actual eligible student athletes.
When you concede that 50% of the students being athletes makes it look worse, not better, for Carolina, because that's a disproportionately high number relative to the student population.
When you concede that 50% of anything on campuses being athletes basically screams "designed for athletes" (for instance, 50/50 athlete/non athlete is exactly how they do athlete housing at most major universities as a workaround to appease the NCAA).
When you concede that, even given the above points, the proportion argument is just icing on the cake, because regardless of whom the classes were intended for, it is still necessary to look into the eligibility of even a single athlete who got a grade for a class that only existed on the transcript, allowed plagiarism, or had administrators changing grades based on emailed recommendations from other administrative staff.
Yea it is my opinion your boy was found in a fake car owned by a fake Booster with a fake gun outside on the fake ground by the car.
But he didn't take other classes ... he took the "Irregular" classes. The Independent Investigation UNC commissioned confirms this.
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Rashad McCants had NO grades other than the four As that put him on the Dean's List in 2005 -- all fake Af-Am classes, as he has admitted. Are you saying he'd have been eligible with ZERO grades?
What are you talking about??? It is LITERALLY A FACT that "but for" the AFAM classes MCCants would have been ineligible to play. That's the definition of a fact. It doesn't matter what classes he "hypothetically" could have taken to stay eligible. He did take AFAM classes and they kept him eligible according to his official transcript. I'm starting to question if you understand what a "fact" is.
Ol' Roy wears his sweaters and cries about his players but he's dirty. He left KU with issues. UNC has cheated for decades and ESPN and their minions choose to play dumb because they are culpable. They report a UK player crossing the street wrong but an entire institution gave out fake grades and classes and nary a word. Don't tell me there's no agenda here.
Actually, Roy was included in the "Individuals Who May Be Mentioned in The Factual Information Chart" in the most recent ANOA. You may want to pump the brakes.
Plus, Roy was responsible for Wayne Walden who is neck deep. Strict Liability is a beyotch.
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Considering the situation, shining the spotlight on themselves by winning the championship is the worst thing that could happen to the North Carolina basketball program.
