These 3 and we're set. Not the marquee names of say a Malik Newman or a Jaylen Brown but 3 excellent high energy players nonetheless.
Murray, Diallo, and Mulder
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Diallo is possible, Mulder is likely, Murray could come, but I doubt he reclassifies for 2015. I'd take them though.
I would be fine with that.
Starters
G Ulis- 5-star.
G Murray- 5-star.
F Poythress- 5-star.
F Diallo- 5-star.
F Labissiere- 5-star.
Key Reserves
G Briscoe- 5-star.
F Lee- 5-star.
G Mulder- #1 JUCO.
Name a team with more talent?
Starters
G Ulis- 5-star.
G Murray- 5-star.
F Poythress- 5-star.
F Diallo- 5-star.
F Labissiere- 5-star.
Key Reserves
G Briscoe- 5-star.
F Lee- 5-star.
G Mulder- #1 JUCO.
Name a team with more talent?
I would really love to have Ulis, Murray and Mulder on the floor together.
Those 3 and have Skal and whoever else may it be Lee or Poy and we have a very nice combo of scoring rebounding and defense.
You always need at least 3 guys who can be threats and the D has to play them to keep from sagging like Wis did to Kat down low. Mulder is perfectly capable of playing the 3 you don't average as many boards as he did this past season without having a knack for the ball.
In the 80's I remember James Blackman playing the 4 for good stretches of game time and he was 6'2 or so. I'm sure a 6'4-6'5 guy can be a 3. If we need someone to play D I'm sure Poy or Lee could cause some havoc on someone depending on the matchup.
Those 3 and have Skal and whoever else may it be Lee or Poy and we have a very nice combo of scoring rebounding and defense.
You always need at least 3 guys who can be threats and the D has to play them to keep from sagging like Wis did to Kat down low. Mulder is perfectly capable of playing the 3 you don't average as many boards as he did this past season without having a knack for the ball.
In the 80's I remember James Blackman playing the 4 for good stretches of game time and he was 6'2 or so. I'm sure a 6'4-6'5 guy can be a 3. If we need someone to play D I'm sure Poy or Lee could cause some havoc on someone depending on the matchup.
IF we get Diallo then I will be beyond thrilled. In my view he is the key, we have a decent back court.
If this happened I think it may be our best roster yet excluding 2012. I'll get bashed for saying it. Now it isn't the most talented roster from an individual level but from a college basketball complimentary pieces level it's very realistic. A backcourt of Ulis, Briscoe, Mulder, and Murray is our best shooting backcourt we've had. It's like having Knight and Lamb and then a third big time shooter/scorer as well. Hawk being the defensive specialist. That's a hell of a backcourt that compliment Poy/Diallo/Lee at the 4, and Skal/Diallo/Lee at the 5.
That's the most explosive, quick lineup we could put on the floor that's suited for a college game. Not an NBA roster with teaditional lineups.
Ulis stiring the drink, with shooters and scorers on both wings and any combo of 2 athletic bigs crashing the lane for lobs and rebounds.
3 guard lineup is the way to go with that roster. However, we may see it occasionally but I think Cal will play 2 Guards, Poy/Willis and occasionally Murray at the 3, and 2 bigs.
That's the most explosive, quick lineup we could put on the floor that's suited for a college game. Not an NBA roster with teaditional lineups.
Ulis stiring the drink, with shooters and scorers on both wings and any combo of 2 athletic bigs crashing the lane for lobs and rebounds.
3 guard lineup is the way to go with that roster. However, we may see it occasionally but I think Cal will play 2 Guards, Poy/Willis and occasionally Murray at the 3, and 2 bigs.
And Murray is the most well rounded, dynamic guard we would have had here in Cals tenure. Very good shooter, mid range pullup, and can slash and finish at the rim. He may not have the explosiveness or potential of Wall but he's a more complete offensive player at this stage. Knight was fairly well rounded as well but IMO Murray has a better slashing game and finishes at the rim better.
Would be a HUGE get.
Would be a HUGE get.
Just watched his highlights from the Nike game and was thoroughly impressed. Mind you, that's all I've seen of him but you could see how quick he is. He blew by people numerous times and finished at the rim VERY well. Count me as hoping he comes here whether it's this year or next.
Diallo must have been playing over HIS head at the JBC. He looked much more effective than Newman. Even the announcers mentioned that Diallo's top 100 rank should be within the top 5. 6'9" non stop worker, great defense and offense and lightening hand eye coordination for thrilling touches and steals. What's not to love?
LOL decent? Ulis could easily be the best pg in the country and Briscoe is awesome . Mulder at worst is a Qualls type ( the Arky player) and Hawkins is a dammmn good back up. That back court is top 5.
sounding more and more likely we finish with Diallo and then Mulder and Murray after they visit this weekend . Cue kermit jerking it ... lol
Murray is visiting this weekend?I hadn't heard that but it would seem to be good news.
Murray is playing in Lex this weekend and i have heard his dad is coming with him and they will be on an unoffical .Seems good to me .
If Slice doesn't leave Diallo is already ours. Mullins really knows how to recruit.
I watched some video. He can get to the rim and he can hey up. I would love to have him and Maker.
Murray is the key. With him we are very, very good. He is the shooter we need to complete this team. Everything else is icing on the cake, IMHO.
Starters
G Ulis
G Briscoe
G Murray
F Poythress
F Labissiere
Key Reserves
F Lee- top frontcourt reserve.
G Matthews- top backcourt reserve.
That's a solid 7-man rotation. Six 5-stars and a 4-star. That's more talent than most every other team in the country.
Starters
G Ulis
G Briscoe
G Murray
F Poythress
F Labissiere
Key Reserves
F Lee- top frontcourt reserve.
G Matthews- top backcourt reserve.
That's a solid 7-man rotation. Six 5-stars and a 4-star. That's more talent than most every other team in the country.
Murray is 6'5, 204 lbs. He has a 6'7 wingspan.
Briscoe is 6'4, 218 lbs. He has a 6'8 wingspan.
Both are plenty big enough to play SF in college.
And I would rather have a guard that can handle and shoot at the 3 than a forward at the 3 that can't handle and shoot. Especially with Ulis at the PG spot.
That's the reason I like Ingram of all the open elite players. He's special. Doesn't sound like he will leave NC but hoping he does.
can you imagine a line up of
Ulis
Briscoe
Murray
Skal
Diallo
with a second 5 of
Hawkins
matthews
Poy
Lee
Mulder
that is an insane amount of talent with 7-9 NBAers and that is not including Willis who i still believe in .
Ulis
Briscoe
Murray
Skal
Diallo
with a second 5 of
Hawkins
matthews
Poy
Lee
Mulder
that is an insane amount of talent with 7-9 NBAers and that is not including Willis who i still believe in .
Murray plays at 8 on friday night with CIA Bounce at KBA. I'll definitely be in attendance for that one.
That's the point that I'm at right now. If we're not going to be able to add a true 3, then go get another big guard that can shoot, drive, create, and handle the ball and go 3 guards instead of forcing an undersized power forward with limited ball skills into the 3 spot.
Over at KSR, they cite Jerry Meyer as saying it is "highly likely" that Murray reclassifies. Also said an offer from UK is "understood", whatever that means. And that right now Oregon leads for him, but that "if" UK makes a big push, that is likely to change. I know before the AS games, Oregon was listed as leading for him in the 2016 class, with Syracuse a distant second. But if he reclassifies, I don't see how he would do so to go to Oregon. Haven't heard anything to indicate that. No, if he does reclassify, he's a Cat, IMO.
A scholly offer is understood.....hmmm prob means that if he reclassifies then he has an offer to come.
If I was him I'd be reclassifying in a heartbeat, if he is not really wanting to go pro for another 2 years min then I'd be wantin to get the best coaching I could possibly get as well as exposure. Can you get that as a senior in HS or playing at UK?? He could stay another year at UK and be a sophmore if he wanted too, nothing wrong with that.
I'd venture to say he would be a very nice player after 2 years in college vs 1 yr in HS and 1 yr at say Oregon.
If you guys noticed this past season on how well we played having Ulis run the point and having the twins in the game at the same time. We were much better. Having Ulis and another 2 ball handlers that can light it up would be tremendous.
You just do not know how a kids skill set translates to the college level but I watched the twins in HS several times and Murray and Murray was much better than either. But will he struggle adjusting? Will Briscoe? What about the Mulder kid? I think Mulder would be more ready than either but Murray's ceiling is higher than Briscoe or Mulder. All three are good players and will contribute to the team. I would rather have Ulis, Murray and Mulder on the floor together first and have Briscoe come in for any of those 3 first. 4 guys can get 30 min a game in the backcourt.
I'd say though that Ulis will be getting 30 Briscoe 20, Murray 22-25 min and Mulder about 25. You will have games where we need Poy or even Lee to guard a big 3 of another team in some situations or we have foul trouble and we have 2 of our guards sitting down with 2 fouls in the first half. Hawkins would be getting some clock or Willis.
If I was him I'd be reclassifying in a heartbeat, if he is not really wanting to go pro for another 2 years min then I'd be wantin to get the best coaching I could possibly get as well as exposure. Can you get that as a senior in HS or playing at UK?? He could stay another year at UK and be a sophmore if he wanted too, nothing wrong with that.
I'd venture to say he would be a very nice player after 2 years in college vs 1 yr in HS and 1 yr at say Oregon.
If you guys noticed this past season on how well we played having Ulis run the point and having the twins in the game at the same time. We were much better. Having Ulis and another 2 ball handlers that can light it up would be tremendous.
You just do not know how a kids skill set translates to the college level but I watched the twins in HS several times and Murray and Murray was much better than either. But will he struggle adjusting? Will Briscoe? What about the Mulder kid? I think Mulder would be more ready than either but Murray's ceiling is higher than Briscoe or Mulder. All three are good players and will contribute to the team. I would rather have Ulis, Murray and Mulder on the floor together first and have Briscoe come in for any of those 3 first. 4 guys can get 30 min a game in the backcourt.
I'd say though that Ulis will be getting 30 Briscoe 20, Murray 22-25 min and Mulder about 25. You will have games where we need Poy or even Lee to guard a big 3 of another team in some situations or we have foul trouble and we have 2 of our guards sitting down with 2 fouls in the first half. Hawkins would be getting some clock or Willis.
Murray would certainly be a great addition and an exciting one at that. However, with Briscoe, Ulis, Hawkins and Probably Mulder, he would also just be a luxury in my opinion. I feel that Diallo is the make or break recruit for us; we need him really bad next year. If we do not add him, foul trouble is going to scare me to death next year.
I wouldn't describe Murray as a luxury. He's probably the best scorer of any of our current or incoming guards.
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Murray is a guy who could potentially lead the team in scoring.
That's a little bit more than just a "luxury".
And beyond that, anything that pushes Cal away from using Alex Poythress as a 3 is a good thing in my eyes.
Very good post. Alex has no business playing the 3.
Also, Murray is 6-5 and 200 (not sure why everyone keeps listing him as 6-4 since he was measured at the NHS at 6-5 w/ shoes on). He can shoot and he can handle the rock. Not sure why everyone automatically assumes that he couldn't play the 3?? Why does a small forward HAVE to be 6-6, 6-7, or 6-8? Hell, Chuck Hayes played the 4 for us and he was barely over 6-5.
My guess is that Cal lands Murray, Diallo, and Mulder to round out the class - #1 recruiting class again.
The starting lineup should then be -
PG - Ulis
CG - Briscoe
SF - Murray
PF - Diallo
C - Labiessiere
Key Reserves - Poythress, Lee, Mulder, Matthews (Poythress plays best as the 6th man off the bench in my opinion - much like Darius Miller in 2012)
That starting lineup has size, rebounding, athleticism, energy, and most importantly of all - shooters.
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