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More potentially bad news about Diallo
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College trainers associated with the athletic department are free. I'm assuming UK has some of the best in the hoops business at the collegiate level.
This is a classic Rupp Rafters thread, abetted by a classic piece of half-reported misinformation from Matt Jones.
How do you tell a classic? Its one where by the end of the second page any honest reader is more confused and less informed than when the thread started.
Common sense suggests one thing to me: This kid last played in a real game what, as a junior in high school? As much as we want to believe NBA scouts recommend that teams draft guys in the first round based on their vertical jump, their wingspan and their sneaker size, he's NOT going to rise on draft boards without showing something against real competition. If, in fact, he has opted out of any game-like competition, it's more likely to mean he's going through the process as a learning experience and he's planning to return to Kentucky.
How do you tell a classic? Its one where by the end of the second page any honest reader is more confused and less informed than when the thread started.
Common sense suggests one thing to me: This kid last played in a real game what, as a junior in high school? As much as we want to believe NBA scouts recommend that teams draft guys in the first round based on their vertical jump, their wingspan and their sneaker size, he's NOT going to rise on draft boards without showing something against real competition. If, in fact, he has opted out of any game-like competition, it's more likely to mean he's going through the process as a learning experience and he's planning to return to Kentucky.
Maybe the NBA will eventually turn into a virtual game. That would make it better than it is.
How do you know he aint coming back?
So far all we know for sure is that he wants to get evaluated and see where he stands in order to make a decision. Has something changed on Diallo's part?
Hope you are right MdWildcat, and sorry for adding yet another HD thread, but it was new information, albeit not exactly meaningful, and I thought the other threads were dying out and most people wouldn't see it.
Good God. Some of you are condemning the guy before he actually does something, saying he's hiding/scared etc.. He has not hired an agent, to our knowledge. That is telling, to me. How about we withhold judgement until we actually know something? Even if he goes, that's his right. IMO, Cal did absolutely the right thing in taking him; no harm at all.
Let's let this play out. I think he'll come back; an NBA scout told me he's not ready.
Chill.
Let's let this play out. I think he'll come back; an NBA scout told me he's not ready.
Chill.
If the NBA would let them, I'd bet large $$ that a lot of the top 20 or 30 HS seniors every year would go straight to the D League instead of college. They could get paid to practice, play and improve under the tutelage of pros and not have to pretend to be a student. Most of these kids could not care less about college. I'm frankly amazed that Cal seems to be able to get most of them that come to UK to actually try to be a student, albeit for one year.
I think Cal knew all of this was gonna happen(Declaring with a possibility of staying in). Come to Ky, don't play to protect your stock, declare for the draft and get a shot at a really good player coming back to play next season. Cal is always ahead of the game so I think he knew it was a risk but one he was willing to take. I think that's what sold Diallo on coming here. I think he told coaches what he wanted to do. Uconn wanted him to play right away. Cal said come in, declare and if you come back you have some practice under your belt and we're good to go.
Cal probably figured there was a high probability he wouldn't go first round though and wasn't expecting Diallo to wanna stay in even if 2nd round(If that's the case)
You already can play in the D League straight out of high school, as long as you are 18 years old.
I guess I missed the part where Diallo blew out both his ACL's and was still in recovery mode.
This place is a wealth of information. I wonder if Cal knows HD has had these knee surgeries.
If he comes back, he should be welcomed with open arms. The "screw him I hope he doesn't come back" people are the whiny folks who just love complaining, same types who say they don't want a recruit who is taking too long to make up his mind. They didn't want to date that hot chick anyway, she probably was too stuck up and dumb for them.
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1) The OP is summarizing information coming from, at best, a second hand source. The track record for that type of thing on a public message board isn't exactly stellar for being 100% correct.
2) None of us know if Diallo is dead-set on going to the NBA this year or truly just wants feedback. We do know that he hasn't announced the hiring of an agent, which he would have done if he were 100% gone.
I know we live in the "I need information now" age, but why don't we maybe hold off on grabbing the torches and pitchforks until we get an official announcement on what Diallo decides to do.
Man stop making sense. It confuses the panic stricken. Good post.
This is a reach at best. You can't compare Giles and HD.
I compare HD more to Eric Bledsoe, Super athletes with suspect shooting. Look what EB is doing now.
I don't look at this as HD is hiding, I honestly think he's in it just for the feedback, so he's not really interested in the combine. Well, maybe it's wishful thinking.
Especially the way SEC refs calm games. It will be really easy for refs to take UK right out of every game.
Fair enough, but I don't want to be lumped in with the pitchfork crowd. I have never bashed Diallo during this whole affair. It's not my fault if people go further than reading the info to extrapolation and overreaction.
This. I don't understand how anyone could think that HD would even think that NBA GM's are going to be fooled by a guy that is trying to hide.
I read this as he just wants to get feedback and isn't wanting to dip his whole leg into the water.
To me, trying to hide at this stage of the game would be a really stupid move and when you're as good as HD apparently is, you don't hide, you show out.
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He could have helped the team, instead of just practicing. What is there to be ok with?
Yeah, I don't see how this is a good thing for HD if he truly wanted to go pro.
Either show your hand or fold and go home. If I'm an NBA GM, I ain't taking a guy that hasn't shown me what he can or can't do. That would be foolish.
Well, then Cal and HD better tighten whatever it is that's loose.
Love it, hate it, ignore it. But the list http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2017-nba-draft-combine-unofficial-invitee-breakdown-5909/
... has about 25 players that will not play 5 on 5. 20 of those look like first round picks at this moment.
... has about 25 players that will not play 5 on 5. 20 of those look like first round picks at this moment.
Hamidou Diallo > Old Indian phrase translated into " will not play til check clears"
I think some folks need to calm down because people going at Diallo on Twitter, Facebook, etc could hurt recruiting and especially a big guy that we're going after right now and Diallo is pretty good friends with him.
Or become more exposed. He may not want to play because right now he has perceived weaknesses. He plays he may get a bad mark that is hard to shake in one season if college hoops. He takes a chance by not playing it sure doesn't answer any questions the GMS might have. Just think it could mean good or bad news. Where are the examples that anyone could have seen to justify moving him up. Not as strong as this draft is. Your gonna have to prove something to move up in this class. I was more afraid of him playing in the games and going off than of anything so I actually feel better. Basically he is limiting his advantage to measurement that can be measured at a workout
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Take what Jones says with a huge grain of salt. His "information" is usually a "guess" and more than often he admits as much.
High school players can go directly to the D-league. There is no waiting period.
Do you know he would have helped? Is it not possible that he never fully grasped the defensive/offensive schemes and would have messed with our chemistry more than he would have helped?
The players are not deciding to come here or go elsewhere because of the fans. Quickest route to the NBA is the reason. Not sure why anyone is truly upset over it other than wanting to see him play for Kentucky.
Not sure why you think I'm down on Diallo in any way. I think he returns and this indicates he will.
That's ok at UK, remember, we're "player first" here. It'll help with recruiting.
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I may have misinterpreted your quote (as many have noted his turning down the chance to play at combine was a sign he wasn't returning). For that I apologize. Doesn't matter too much as it appears he will be participating in 5-on-5 drills.
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