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Coen seems to be the next OC at UK. He was the OC at Maine for 2 seasons before Sean McVay picked him up to be on his staff but he didn't have a good run at Maine; in his first season, they went 6-5 and averaged 22.2 points per game and in his second season, they went 4-6 and averaged 24.6 points per game and after he left Maine to be the assistant QB coach for the Rams, Maine went 10-4 but this could mean he's a good developer/recruiter but I just thought I'd play Devil's Advocate.

I hope he's improved under McVay for the past 3 seasons but I think its a fresh new start and I'm excited to see if he's announced as the next OC tomorrow.

2016 @ Maine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Maine_Black_Bears_football_team

2017 @ Maine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Maine_Black_Bears_football_team
 
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I think it's important to remember, he didn't have the talent at Maine, he'll have at UK and especially if UK gets some of the offensive weapon transfers they're rumored to get.
 
megablue said:
Surely, it’s not him. Is this guy ready for the job? Take an honest look at his history. QB coach, maybe, but not OC. This one is hard to figure, quite frankly.

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I agree that looking at his resume would make you scratch your head. I believe when Stoops started talking to contacts about NFL possibilities, his name probably came up a decent amount for him to pursue Cohen as a legit possibility.
 
Seems like a risky move for Stoops.....not sure why he’s not really considering proven OCs at lesser power 5 schools.

I know he’s looked at BB but he’s riding his brothers coat tails. Wouldn’t want UK to be his first job out from under Jeff’s shadow.
 
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Cefiro said:
Seems like a risky move for Stoops.....not sure why he’s not really considering proven OCs at lesser power 5 schools.

I know he’s looked at BB but he’s riding his brothers coat tails. Wouldn’t want UK to be his first job out from under Jeff’s shadow.
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I have a feeling he has considered a lot of things, most of which we will never know.
 
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Yesterday things were sounding positive about Joe Moorhead. Is he no longer a possibility?
 
TuckyFB said:
I think it's important to remember, he didn't have the talent at Maine, he'll have at UK and especially if UK gets some of the offensive weapon transfers they're rumored to get.
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He'll still be at a pretty significant talent disparity. Not a good sign he couldn't get it done before in that position.

Move is high risk high reward, more in the side of risk imo

bigbluedon said:
I hope not Cohen. Wonder if he even talked to the Riley guy at SMU
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Agree. Riley the much better candidate imo
 
A couple of concerns here. First is recruiting. He has basically zero experience or contacts. Also his name is not a name that you can sell to recruits. The second concern is does he have the gravitas needed to coach offense for Mark Stoops. Yeah I get it that Stoops doesn't literally call the plays but when you see him explode after an incomplete pass on 1st down, then you see that he effectively does call the plays. We need someone that can call the right plays and move the ball and not care about the heat he gets from his boss.
 
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bigblueinsanity said:
He'll still be at a pretty significant talent disparity. Not a good sign he couldn't get it done before in that position.

Move is high risk high reward, more in the side of risk imo



Agree. Riley the much better candidate imo
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Athletics in Maine is trash at every level, and this is coming from a friend who grew up and played in college at a Maine state school and another who was a head coach for several years at a state school. If anyone accomplishes anything there against competition outside of the state then it’s a pretty monumental achievement.
 
I like this hire if it comes through. This is exactly what I think we need at UK. New, young fresh blood.

Is it a risk, yes of course, but why not swing for the fences. We had the most boring offense in the SEC with Gram. Seldom could his offense play catch up and put points on the board in a hurry. He had no clue how to run a passing attack.

It might just be that we have discovered a talent that is flying under the radar and he will bring exciting football with a balanced attack. If he can develop a quarterback and find someone to throw a pass over 5 yards I say sign him up.
 
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Well, I would like it if it happened, but I think it also means we struck out on our top picks....but I have no clue. Just seems like Moorhead would be #1, and a guy like Brohm ahead of Coen.

But if we’re being honest, no way UK could get Moorhead, and highly doubt Brohm would come here.

Nobody is talking about QB coaches...we need a damn good one, and he needs to be dialed in with OC. Hell, should probably hire a Passing Coordinator, that’s the trendy thing to do.
 
Maine averaged 14.91 points a game in 2015, and that was with a 39-point outing really skewing the average. They scored 10 or less in 6 of their 11 games. In 2014, they averaged 16.36 a game with five games of ten or fewer points and another game of only 12 points.

In 2016, his first year as OC, they bumped up the average to 22.27 and only scored less than 20 two times, against Toledo and Villanova, two generally pretty good programs at that level.

In 2017, the average improved to 24.60 despite playing a much harder schedule that included three ranked teams and a normally strong Delaware program.

It’s Maine. They don’t get talent there. Despite the poor situation and what had to be a relative lack of offensive talent he was walking intO, the fence improved considerably with him as OC, and unless they just played all freshmen and transfers on offense, he was largely working with the relatively barren roster that he inherited.
 
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mrschwump said:
I wouldn't fret over it. If he's successful he'll be gone back to the NFL after 2 years, if he's unsuccessful he'll be fired after 2 years. This isn't a long term solution.
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If the call is Coen, which it is trending to be, then it is what it is....but if he flames out, Stoops likely goes down with him IMO. Stoops can't have a 5th OC to put bad offense upon. Which is why I am not sure this is a great idea given this dude has literally zilch OC experience.
 
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K_TIME said:
If the call is Coen, which it is trending to be, then it is what it is....but if he flames out, Stoops likely goes down with him IMO. Stoops can't have a 5th OC to put bad offense upon. Which is why I am not sure this is a great idea given this dude has literally zilch OC experience.
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Stoops' contract gives him an auto-extension every time he reaches 7 wins. I don't know what your definition of "flames out" is to be fair, but if UK keeps winning 6-7 games per year then Stoops will be fine. Coen won't be though.
 
YaketySax said:
Stoops' contract gives him an auto-extension every time he reaches 7 wins. I don't know what your definition of "flames out" is to be fair, but if UK keeps winning 6-7 games per year then Stoops will be fine. Coen won't be though.
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What is difficult to understand is why 6-7 wins is okay for a head coach, but not coordinators? Where does the buck stop?

If what you say is true, then it would seem the coaching community would realize it and interested candidates would be limited to lesser-known coaches seeking an opportunity and increased salary, without haven proven and established themselves.
 
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If true, then Fk
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It would be interesting to know how many SEC states Coen has ever set foot in. Hopefully, many and he is somewhat familiar with the territory to help with recruiting and talent evaluation.
 
The main reason I'm not enthused is that he has to lead a group of coaches with a lot more experience than him. How do we attract great coaches under him much less great recruits when no one has heard of him?

Not sure that's going to go great, but it's not my job to hire him. Will support the team no matter who is hired, but I'd like to see more success on a MAC or higher level from an OC
 
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Girthang said:
The main reason I'm not enthused is that he has to lead a group of coaches with a lot more experience than him. How do we attract great coaches under him much less great recruits when no one has heard of him?

Not sure that's going to go great, but it's not my job to hire him. Will support the team no matter who is hired, but I'd like to see more success on a MAC or higher level from an OC
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If no one has heard of him, then why is he considered one of the best up and coming coaches in the sport?
 
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Girthang said:
The main reason I'm not enthused is that he has to lead a group of coaches with a lot more experience than him. How do we attract great coaches under him much less great recruits when no one has heard of him?

Not sure that's going to go great, but it's not my job to hire him. Will support the team no matter who is hired, but I'd like to see more success on a MAC or higher level from an OC
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I think this is fair.
 
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megablue said:
What is difficult to understand is why 6-7 wins is okay for a head coach, but not coordinators? Where does the buck stop?

If what you say is true, then it would seem the coaching community would realize it and interested candidates would be limited to lesser-known coaches seeking an opportunity and increased salary, without haven proven and established themselves.
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Because assistants are the fall guys for underperforming seasons, and that's pretty much the case everywhere for the last 25 years.

What I say is true. UK decided after the 2016 season that a 7-win season is an auto-extension of one year. When he gets to 10 wins it gets an auto-extension of an additional year. This contract was signed in March 2017 to much fanfare, because it gave Stoops arguably the best contract in CFB and made it a high hurdle for him to ever leave. This was Barnhardt at the time:

"I think (the contract) helps everybody," UK athletics director Mitch Barnhart recently said when asked about other schools possibly pursuing Stoops. "It gives him peace. I can’t speak for Mark, but I think if I’m in those situations, it certainly gives you peace. Knowing they believe in me and if I do what I’m supposed to do, I’m going to be fine."

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YaketySax said:
Because assistants are the fall guys for underperforming seasons, and that's pretty much the case everywhere for the last 25 years.

What I say is true. UK decided after the 2016 season that a 7-win season is an auto-extension of one year. When he gets to 10 wins it gets an auto-extension of an additional year. This contract was signed in March 2017 to much fanfare, because it gave Stoops arguably the best contract in CFB and made it a high hurdle for him to ever leave. This was Barnhardt at the time:

"I think (the contract) helps everybody," UK athletics director Mitch Barnhart recently said when asked about other schools possibly pursuing Stoops. "It gives him peace. I can’t speak for Mark, but I think if I’m in those situations, it certainly gives you peace. Knowing they believe in me and if I do what I’m supposed to do, I’m going to be fine."

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I understand your point, but if 7 wins is an auto-extension, how can it also be an under-performing season? It seems that Stoops has been unduly insulated.
 
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Hope the guy coaches really well and we found a diamond in the rough.

question will be can he recruit at a high level. If not, SEC success will look very similar afraid.
 
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