Oweh with Zero FT Attempts last night

[Aike]

Must have been frustrating, considering how many fouls he was getting hit with.

He averages a little over 5 attempts per game. Only other game where he shot none was vs. Brown in December. He also only shot 1 in the loss to Arkansas.

 

[jwphelps]

Must have been frustrating, considering how many fouls he was getting hit with.

He averages a little over 5 attempts per game. Only other game where he shot none was vs. Brown in December. He also only shot 1 in the loss to Arkansas.

Go figure since Bama made more FT's than UK took.

 

[rick64]

Silly rabbit only UK fouls.

 

[JonathanW]

It’s not like he wasn’t fouled on his drives. They just weren’t being called. Had we fouled Sears like they did Oweh, Sears would have been flopping all over the floor like a fish out of water.

 

[Aike]

It’s not like he wasn’t fouled on his drives. They just weren’t being called. Had we fouled Sears like they did Oweh, Sears would have been fo lopping all over the floor like a fish out of water.

Correct

 

[crestcat]

It’s not like he wasn’t fouled on his drives. They just weren’t being called. Had we fouled Sears like they did Oweh, Sears would have been fo lopping all over the floor like a fish out of water.

That’s how we know he wasn’t fouled on the three, he didn’t do double back flip.

 

[ukwazoo]

I haven't watched a UK game on the road in a minute. It's like WWE.

 

[kywildcats8]

Almost every time Sears got the ball, he was falling or acting like he was getting killed and the refs were calling fouls on us all the time- Oweh was getting hammered with no calls on Bama- getting hard to watch and KY's game was not the only one i watched over the wkdn where the refs had to be betting on the games

 

[nptb]

Oweh was bad last night. He was solid on defense but had two foul calls that were trash. He was not in rhythm on offense and was forcing it.

 

[YardCat]

It’s not like he wasn’t fouled on his drives. They just weren’t being called. Had we fouled Sears like they did Oweh, Sears would have been flopping all over the floor like a fish out of water.

He did flop after making contact with our guys, and he initiated the contact.

 

[CNJ1966]

We drove to the basket 15 times yesterday in the half court offense. We drew one foul (Brea, and he made both FTs)

 

[Tprinceuk]

What is getting more and more infuriating is that the refs don't even try and hide it, there is no repercussions from them being completely biased against us, it was bad early on and has only gotten worse as the season progresses.

 

[BGCATFAN2012]

Somebody get that boy some pop tarts... gotta toughin him up.

 

[shaudyshaud]

I haven't watched a UK game on the road in a minute. It's like WWE.

Honestly our home games aren’t that far off .

 

[CNJ1966]

That stat is another reason I advocate for less driving to the basket and more pull-ups from 10-12-14 ft

 

[Agent Redbone]

I love CMP and I actually feel like he’s done a phenomenal job overall, but he’s going to have to get tougher on the zebras. The no calls time and time again when we have rim runs is really bad. I understand a little more on the bigs banging around for position, but Oweh was hit hard on 3 different drives during critical moments and 2 of them got Bama out in transition for an easy bucket. I came unglued when Perry was obviously fouled on a layup in the first half with yet another no call. With the amount of money flowing through college basketball these days, the refs need some kind of accountability system on missed calls and bad calls, like a point system that affects pay. Bonuses from the conferences for a low number of dings on the season or something of that nature. Some type of reward system for an excellent job.

 

[yoshukai]

I love CMP and I actually feel like he’s done a phenomenal job overall, but he’s going to have to get tougher on the zebras. The no calls time and time again when we have rim runs is really bad. I understand a little more on the bigs banging around for position, but Oweh was hit hard on 3 different drives during critical moments and 2 of them got Bama out in transition for an easy bucket. I came unglued when Perry was obviously fouled on a layup in the first half with yet another no call. With the amount of money flowing through college basketball these days, the refs need some kind of accountability system on missed calls and bad calls, like a point system that affects pay. Bonuses from the conferences for a low number of dings on the season or something of that nature. Some type of reward system for an excellent job.

I don’t think “getting tougher on the zebras” would make any difference anyway but, he was on the verge of getting a technical yesterday. What more can he do ? I guess actually getting a technical?

 

[Agent Redbone]

I don’t think “getting tougher on the zebras” would make any difference anyway but, he was on the verge of getting a technical yesterday. What more can he do ? I guess actually getting a technical?

Again, love Pope. Hopefully he is getting tired of this poor officiating and becoming tougher with them. I don’t want him to become Hurley, but the refs do need to have it in their mind that he will fight for his guys on these trash calls or no calls.

 

[Lempface]

Oweh was bad last night. He was solid on defense but had two foul calls that were trash. He was not in rhythm on offense and was forcing it.

Just goes to show you how a ref can take a player out of the game.

This is why it's so easy to influence a game as a ref and have zero accountability and 100% deniability.

Step 1: Don't call anything that isn't out right murder, but real fouls, a foul. This happens a few times and it gets in the player's head.
Step 2: Call fouls on said player that are the same ore even less contact than the fouls he himself is being called for. This is going to test that player's mental resolve even more, unfair or not, it has a mental effect.
Step 3: Foul him out, mission accomplished.

 

[yoshukai]

Again, love Pope. Hopefully he is getting tired of this poor officiating and becoming tougher with them. I don’t want him to become Hurley, but the refs do need to have it in their mind that he will fight for his guys on these trash calls or no calls.

He talks to officials pretty much the whole game . He was on the verge of getting a T last night. What more can he do ?

 

[chattanoogawildcat]

He talks to officials pretty much the whole game . He was on the verge of getting a T last night. What more can he do ?

Terry Oglesby should have been T'd up for stopping play to stare down Pope.

 

[yoshukai]

Terry Oglesby should have been T'd up for stopping play to stare down Pope.

I would love to see Oglesby call a UConn game . He and Hurley might come to blows , lol .

 

[HReardon]

I love CMP and I actually feel like he’s done a phenomenal job overall, but he’s going to have to get tougher on the zebras. The no calls time and time again when we have rim runs is really bad. I understand a little more on the bigs banging around for position, but Oweh was hit hard on 3 different drives during critical moments and 2 of them got Bama out in transition for an easy bucket. I came unglued when Perry was obviously fouled on a layup in the first half with yet another no call. With the amount of money flowing through college basketball these days, the refs need some kind of accountability system on missed calls and bad calls, like a point system that affects pay. Bonuses from the conferences for a low number of dings on the season or something of that nature. Some type of reward system for an excellent job.

With the push for everyone to gamble, you can bet that college athletes and the zebras will fall under the sway of professional gamblers. All sports have gone crazy with this madness, and I can only think about the Kentucky gambling controversy and loss of key players so long ago, but when there was not any gambling allowed or promoted.

 

[catlogic15]

Sometimes I think Oweh is more concerned about the contact than he is making the layup.

 

[megablue]

It is interesting and odd, if not telling in some way, that Oweh has fouled out only twice this season ... both times against Bama.

 

[sk73]

Go figure since Bama made more FT's than UK took.

UK 16 of 22
Bama 21 of 25
Oweh had his worst game. I watched him foul although the one on the 3 point attempt was a play on in my opinion. He is our most reliable guy and he was missed. He just didn't have it.

 

[TheDude73]

I haven't watched a UK game on the road in a minute. It's like WWE.

The new "I know...riiiiiight?!?!? valley girl talk / overused phrase in the English language is now I haven't done something "in a minute".

If I hear "in a minute" being used as a "it's been a while" replacement again, my head might explode. 🤣

 

[TheDude73]

Almost every time Sears got the ball, he was falling or acting like he was getting killed and the refs were calling fouls on us all the time- Oweh was getting hammered with no calls on Bama- getting hard to watch and KY's game was not the only one i watched over the wkdn where the refs had to be betting on the games

Refs need to go back and watch film of the games they've reffed and calls they've made, then try to calibrate themselves to the tricks players use to appear fouled - and stop falling for it. It's as obvious as anything, even at full speed. There just isn't any way a defender can have his arms straight up, jump straight up, and create the kind of contact that results in the player's head snapping backwards and body falling across the court.

There are so many players now that drive the ball, create the contact 100% themselves, then flop the head and flail around like they had zero expectation to be hit. Thiero did it (and still does it) at UK and I freaking hated it, even if he did get the call. Sears does it, Broome (sp?) at Auburn does it, and a few others. It's everywhere in the game, but I don't see refs falling for it as much in conferences not named the SEC.

It's chicken sh*t basketball, but at the same time, if the refs are going to keep rewarding these actors and not doing their homework or trying to improve their call consistency by watching their own performances after the fact, why wouldn't kids keep trying? The only reason this is getting more and more common in the game is because it works - refs are dumb enough to keep falling for it.

This all started in world cup soccer. Watch any soccer match from the EU - even matches from 30 years ago - and you'll see flopping and flailing all over the place. It's 1000 times worse today, and it's bleeding into almost every sport that has physical contact (offense/defense) - even the NFL.

 

[TheDude73]

Terry Oglesby should have been T'd up for stopping play to stare down Pope.

Remember the game 2 years ago when Pat Adams got all up in Cal's face, so close that their noses were touching? That was so freaking bizarre. And there just isn't any world where a referee should keep their job, much less be vaulted to a chief and one of the NCAA's go-to guys for big games and the NCAAT, after behaving like that.

A ref that visually stares down, gets in the face or otherwise antagonizes a coach should be fired.

 

[JonathanW]

He did flop after making contact with our guys, and he initiated the contact.

That last part is what really annoys me, not just with Sears, but with a LOT of players. They initiate the contact, yet the guy being bullied into is called for the foul. That is just BS. This isn't, or shouldn't be, football. But you see it EVERY game, not just UK games.

Now with the Alabama game, it was only called in one direction. That is bigger BS.

 

[JonathanW]

Sometimes I think Oweh is more concerned about the contact than he is making the layup.

He is actually a pretty good finisher.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Ran some numbers with some free time I had. Haven't decided if I want to make a dedicated post and break it down more.

Kentucky's total fouls in SEC to date: 257
Opponents total fouls in the SEC today: 245

UK Free throw attempts: 280
Opponents Free throw attempts: 316.

So through 14 games, half home and half on the road. Our opponents are averaging basically 1 less foul per game and just shy of 2 more free throws per game. However, these numbers are still a little skewed in our favor because there's three games that come to mind where the opponent tried to extend the game at the end, which means their fouls and our free throws went up (but these really shouldn't count as they were intended fouls): Florida, TexasAM, and @Tenn..

Those numbers above don't look egregious.. but there are some real bad examples in the numbers such as Florida shooting 35 free throws and georgia shooting 38. I still find it hard to believe that such an experienced team from all over the nation, all the sudden has fouling problems when they get to Kentucky. On top of all of this, why do I get the sense that other premier programs are getting the opposite of this type of treatment? I dont have time to go through Duke or Kansas numbers, but I'd bet they have less fouls than their opponents and more free throws.

 

[ala_kat2]

Sometimes I think Oweh is more concerned about the contact than he is making the layup.

I think he wants to dunk everything but struggles to bank in a layup with a defender contesting. Hes missed a bunch of those this season, but I love Oweh’s grit.

 

[Aike]

Ran some numbers with some free time I had. Haven't decided if I want to make a dedicated post and break it down more.

Kentucky's total fouls in SEC to date: 257
Opponents total fouls in the SEC today: 245

UK Free throw attempts: 280
Opponents Free throw attempts: 316.

So through 14 games, half home and half on the road. Our opponents are averaging basically 1 less foul per game and just shy of 2 more free throws per game. However, these numbers are still a little skewed in our favor because there's three games that come to mind where the opponent tried to extend the game at the end, which means their fouls and our free throws went up (but these really shouldn't count as they were intended fouls): Florida, TexasAM, and @Tenn..

Those numbers above don't look egregious.. but there are some real bad examples in the numbers such as Florida shooting 35 free throws and georgia shooting 38. I still find it hard to believe that such an experienced team from all over the nation, all the sudden has fouling problems when they get to Kentucky. On top of all of this, why do I get the sense that other premier programs are getting the opposite of this type of treatment? I dont have time to go through Duke or Kansas numbers, but I'd bet they have less fouls than their opponents and more free throws.

We were 53rd in the country in foul rate on 1/1 and now we’re at 129.

This isn’t just an us problem. True of a lot of SEC teams.

But Creighton was 1st on 1/1 and they still are today. So apparently there is consistency from preseason to conference play in some leagues.

Kansas has gone from 17 to 7.

 

[jwphelps]

UK 16 of 22
Bama 21 of 25
Oweh had his worst game. I watched him foul although the one on the 3 point attempt was a play on in my opinion. He is our most reliable guy and he was missed. He just didn't have it.

Agree the foul on the 3 pt shot was bull crap, especially since Perry was fouled before that and they didn't call a thing, but one other foul on O was bull, now two of his fouls where stupid on him.

 

[nptb]

UK 16 of 22
Bama 21 of 25
Oweh had his worst game. I watched him foul although the one on the 3 point attempt was a play on in my opinion. He is our most reliable guy and he was missed. He just didn't have it.

He was actually hurting the squad when he was out there which is the first time I would say that for him this season.