they don't need to hear my voice - just see my hands.
I use the universal sign language
I use the universal sign language
Let the SEC hear your voice regarding Sirmons
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Have it you way sir, you laugh out loud.
While you are doing that you may want to read the definition of condescending.
No offense intended, but when I read this post, I thought we had someone imitating Yogi Berra {rip} His comment went something like this-----When Yogi was questioned about a certain restaurant, he answered "people don't go there anymore its always full." lol
To an extent that's good..but a punishment in ref world is a slap on the wrist. They operate as a good ole boy network and have no real measures for conduct. Roger Ayers cost WKU a game a few yrs back bc he let 6 players on the floor..a few months later there he was in the final four.
So, why do you even care what anyone else chooses to do? Your idea of sending in "1000 video clip" isn't even realistic. Are there that many games that Sirmons has worked? Why don't you come up with your own Sirmons Mixtape and send it in? Or are you just going to keep posting condescendingly to everyone else in a thread about something you've openly said is a waste of time? I've come to the realization that you're either a troll, mentally lacking or a douche. Possibly all three.
After reading most of the post on this thread I have yet to see any comments on how this problem is going to be corrected. Most of the posts were about who to call and what to say.
It appears to me that everyone is wanting to see a game called that satisfies everyone. I have seen a lot of basketball games in my lifetime and I have never seen one that did that and most likely will not ever see it.
I see a lot of comments from fans and announcers about missed calls or no-calls. That is just an opinion and I know there are exceptions to this line of thought. Plays that involve the clock and whether or not a players feet was on the line etc. can be corrected by replays are those exceptions.
The league office have people grading the officials every game and has been for years. This is not something new. The two officials that called the SC game has been criticized severely by fans. These same officials called games in the final four last year, If these officials were incompetent they would not be calling final four games.
The technical fouls issues are going to have to be looked at closely in my opinion to see what is triggering them. There have been comments about missed calls dating back maybe 3-4 years, that will always occur because it was a controversial call.
There has been lots of discussion about the coaches foul language. The officials are to blame for letting that continue. A technical would stop that easily. That should not be tolerated.
To make a long story not any longer, I would like to hear suggestions as to what the league officials would do to correct these problems. My closing thoughts are this==as long as humans officiate the games, it will never change. jmho
It appears to me that everyone is wanting to see a game called that satisfies everyone. I have seen a lot of basketball games in my lifetime and I have never seen one that did that and most likely will not ever see it.
I see a lot of comments from fans and announcers about missed calls or no-calls. That is just an opinion and I know there are exceptions to this line of thought. Plays that involve the clock and whether or not a players feet was on the line etc. can be corrected by replays are those exceptions.
The league office have people grading the officials every game and has been for years. This is not something new. The two officials that called the SC game has been criticized severely by fans. These same officials called games in the final four last year, If these officials were incompetent they would not be calling final four games.
The technical fouls issues are going to have to be looked at closely in my opinion to see what is triggering them. There have been comments about missed calls dating back maybe 3-4 years, that will always occur because it was a controversial call.
There has been lots of discussion about the coaches foul language. The officials are to blame for letting that continue. A technical would stop that easily. That should not be tolerated.
To make a long story not any longer, I would like to hear suggestions as to what the league officials would do to correct these problems. My closing thoughts are this==as long as humans officiate the games, it will never change. jmho
Its comments like this that I don't understand. Was Roger Ayers the only official there? How was he singled out to have missed the call. If he only missed that 1 call during the game I can see why he refereed the final four game.
Nope, but shouldn't that make it all the worse...3 missed such a basic fundamental. And yes, he was in fact the senior lead official in the game. Sorry, try again.
Let me blow your mind real quick...on referee stats..Roger Ayres calls more fouls on UK than their yearly average per game in all gamer overy the years. You could say well ayres has a tighter whistle, wrong. Ayers calls less fouls in non UK games. The averages are still skewed based on opponent..whether it's a mid major, conference, home/away..doesn't matter UK fouls less when he doesn't officiate and he calls less outside of UK games. Then theres the ole technical across the floor on Cal even though another ref is standing next to him in the UT ga me a cpipe yrs ago...mentally tough ole roger must be. Theres a reason this asshat doesn't call many of our games anymore. He's also the most overworked official in the league...aka I'm here to collect a check and the good ole boy network rewards it's buddies on quantity over quality. "Oh you've worked 11 games in 12 days..sure I bet your fresh and focused"
Get outta here with this nonsense...Ayers is absolutely horrid yet nothing is ever done exceot saying hey little buddy try better next time okay
There is no real cure as is and has been evident other than retirement of the given refs. You just have to beat the "biased" refs to get the W. Improvise, adapt & overcome. Maybe worse now I agree but been this way in last 50 years plus I've been watching. Eventually Cal and Sirmans will cross paths again of which will be interesting to say the least.
Wow fellow, you need to slow down a tad- You are absolutely eat up with these stats. You can prove just about anything with stats when you have an agenda.
The number of fouls called doesn't mean too much, its whether you get them right. Every basketball game is different. There is no set number of fouls that have to be called in any game.
The amount of fouls called on each team doesn't have to be even. Some teams foul more than others.
Working 2, 1/2 hours a day isn't all that hard for officials. They are standing much more than they run, There are some things you can't average out.
If Ayers is so terrible why is he getting to work 11 games in 12 days. That sounds like he's well liked.
High level and just a beginning.
1. Officials should be employed by a third party and scheduled by that party.
2. Officials should be reviewed by a different third party not aligned with the party who employs them.
3. All of the conferences should pool their resources and fund both organizations.
1. Officials should be employed by a third party and scheduled by that party.
2. Officials should be reviewed by a different third party not aligned with the party who employs them.
3. All of the conferences should pool their resources and fund both organizations.
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? I said the officiating problem doesn't start and stop with Sirmons but, was actually systemic across the SEC. So, showing nothing but one video of one ref wouldn't actually address the bigger problem.
You're constantly on a thread you claim is going nowhere, bashing everyone who dares post or oppose your point of view and I am the one "babbling"? LOL!
Nice try playing with those who can intelligently put together coherent sentences but, it seems you're a failure with that as well. Off you go to 'ignore' land little boy.
Kybassfan spent a whole 40-0 thread trying to bait and argue with the good gentlemen of the D League. And when he couldnt handle a little of what he was dishing out , he tried to get mods to ban people. He's basically a contrarian.
Yes, it will be interesting. If they are allowing the same physical play without calling it, Cal should jump on the refs immediately. Either Sirmons will let it slide (he's been spoken to by the league) or I think he'll T Cal up again, which would force a reaction from the league. I'm finally looking forward to a Sirmons refer game.
Matt Jones is stating now that Doug Sirmons will not call any more UK games this season in the SEC.
Please don't tell KYbassfan.
Please don't tell KYbassfan.
What??? No flipping way.....!!! Kybassfan promised us that wouldnt work...
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I guess this also proves that the SEC agrees with us that Sirmons officiating was absolutely awful against UK the last 3 games he did. That must really drive a wedge into the group that thinks officials are always right and do a good job.
Heard that as well.
It may have been something UK arranged or it may also have been because of complaints. No one will probably ever know and really, who cares? Although, I'd hate to see that goober ref one of our NCAA Tourney games.
Now, hopefully the SEC administration will have a "come to Jesus' meeting with the rest of their contracted refs in the off-season and tell them they have to step it up or face a similar ban.
I've googled various officiating assignments for 2016. I can't find anywhere that shows them for past games or even the games tonight. Trying to find out where Shows has been hiding lol
Sirmons handed out a double-technical in the KU/KSU game on Sat. night. That dude is relentless.
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