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Let the SEC hear your voice regarding Sirmons

Sirmons ejected a hall of fame coach, who wanted a fair game. Pure and simple. Instead, the ref made it even more lop-sided by calling 2 technicals within like a minute and ejecting cal...its utterly stupid on the refs part.

We played wonderful today and I hope we can keep this energy going through the rest of the season.
 
Sirmons ejected a hall of fame coach, who wanted a fair game. Pure and simple. Instead, the ref made it even more lop-sided by calling 2 technicals within like a minute and ejecting cal...its utterly stupid on the refs part.

We played wonderful today and I hope we can keep this energy going through the rest of the season.
It takes a thinned skinned unprofessional to pull a stunt like that, when a coach is simply defending his player getting trucked
 
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If you are just complaining, fine, whine away. You'll just waste your money on the call. They'll ignore the calls or listen and laugh at you. Rednecks from Kentucky, bitching about the refs after a huge win. LOLOLOLOL go the officials. This is pretty much a stupid course of action.

However, If you actually want to make a difference. Extract a video clip of the bogus call, include video clips of where the call was made differently in a similar situation and include the rule which should be applied in that situation. Send them a few thousand of those. THAT will have an impact if done over time in sufficient volume.

To be honest, I saw some stuff today that was unprofessional. In some cases, I wondered if it was retaliatory.

I'm not gonna call but don't you think it looks better to voice your displeasure after a win rather than a loss. If you complain about bad officiating after a loss it definitely comes across as sour grapes.
 
It's not just about yesterday's game. It's the quality of officiating conference wide. It's about how much harder to win on the road in the SEC than it is any other conference in America.
And for some reason the SEC is willing to contract with officials that have been tossed out of other conferences.
I agree that video evidence is best but, not everyone has the ability or time to capture video of every game being played in the conference. So, an email or call is a perfectly acceptable substitute. The key is to be respectful, level-headed and offer a well thought out point of view.
Heck, I don't know if you even need to mention which team you are a fan of. Honestly, it shouldn't matter!
 
The problem with the SEC is the Head of SEC Officiating is a biased Anti-UK POS too,Jake Bell from the Atlantic Sun Conference has publicly stated his dislike for Blue Bloods like UK
Can you provide any links to his public statements? Not doubting you at all. Just want to read what he's said for myself.
We have to expose these people for what they are. No better way to do that than with their own words!
 
Wow! So, Sirmons has been doing this crap for atleast 6 years and yet the SEC Head of Officials doesn't have a problem with continuing to pay him every chance they get?
Sec only the best. They even hire has been like ACC hated blind Karl Hess I bet if football was having problems
With refs there would be a bigger outcry.
 
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I dont defend what Sirmons did at all but after going back and watching it i now understand it. I was not aware Sirmons hsd just given Cal a tech...i thought when Cal went to midcourt that was the first confrontation...so now i think Sirmons is thinking...i just Td you up and now you are chasing me at midcourt?? I think that is why Cal got tossed...i think Sirmons thought Cal was daring him to do it
 
I'm not gonna call but don't you think it looks better to voice your displeasure after a win rather than a loss. If you complain about bad officiating after a loss it definitely comes across as sour grapes.

I think a fan calling in to bitch about officiating is going to sound like a fan calling in to bitch about officiating. I think an email containing solid evidence of the missed call, a proper example of the call and the specific language of the rule is a lot harder to ignore. A few 1000 of them would be compelling and likely without precedent.

This would be a lot of work. However if folks are really that upset, that has a better chance of results.
 
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Jake Bell was a principal at Henry Clay. He does not hate UK, quite the opposite.
Some of you are embarrassing the fan base, you sound like UL fans.
 
John Higgins was far worse than Sirmons against Wisconsin. Whitehead screwing Oklahoma like he did us against KU.
They can all go to hell for reviewing and STILL not calling a shot clock violation on Hayes with about 2 minutes and change left. I understand screwing up judgement calls but still can't understand something as cut and dry as that one.
 
SEC offices phone number (205)-458-3000. I for one will be calling and voicing my opinion on a piss poor performance of official Doug Sirmons. It's not just the first technical on Cal. It's the technical on the USC player for slapping the ball (which happens numerous times a game & is never called). It's the fact he didn't T up Briscoe for the ball spike but instead for pushing Murray (Go back and watch it he didn't call a T until the shove, well after the ball spike).

The guy has numerous phantom calls throughout the game , which was physical yet he insist on phantom touch fouls. He's been complained about by coaches for a long time. He's thinned skinned, is way too quick to call technicals, and inconsistent in his job. His over all performance today was awful. I think his actions today warrants a suspension & a reprimand. The league office should get flooded with calls until they get this loose cannon under control!!!

We've used the power of our fan base to make change in the past. Let's do the same for this team. They shouldn't have to fight a team and rogue officials at the same time.
If you could voice my opinion(which is the same as yours) I would appreciate it
 
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Actually today he whistled up his 15th, 16th and 17th Technical foul calls today against a UK player /coach since he started officiating in '97.
Seems like an excessive amount per games officiated to me.

Four so far this year.

Doug Sirmons - UK games
He has been messing us over for a LOT of years. One of about 3 or 4 refs that have stats to prove their bias.
 
SEC offices phone number (205)-458-3000. I for one will be calling and voicing my opinion on a piss poor performance of official Doug Sirmons. It's not just the first technical on Cal. It's the technical on the USC player for slapping the ball (which happens numerous times a game & is never called). It's the fact he didn't T up Briscoe for the ball spike but instead for pushing Murray (Go back and watch it he didn't call a T until the shove, well after the ball spike).

The guy has numerous phantom calls throughout the game , which was physical yet he insist on phantom touch fouls. He's been complained about by coaches for a long time. He's thinned skinned, is way too quick to call technicals, and inconsistent in his job. His over all performance today was awful. I think his actions today warrants a suspension & a reprimand. The league office should get flooded with calls until they get this loose cannon under control!!!

We've used the power of our fan base to make change in the past. Let's do the same for this team. They shouldn't have to fight a team and rogue officials at the same time.
I let them know.
 
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I say if some how he ends up calling another game in Rupp the crowd should immediately start with the "Doug Sirmons Sucks" chants. If he's gonna hate us we should just as well make it worth our while.
 
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Jake Bell was a principal at Henry Clay. He does not hate UK, quite the opposite.
Some of you are embarrassing the fan base, you sound like UL fans.
Well,if he loves UK so much ,he has never once tried to change POS Officials like Doug Sirmons,Pat Adams,or the rest of the suspicious clowns that have actual stats that show they are either biased,on the take,or just plain awful.In fact UK keeps getting the same rotation of poor refs more so than other SEC Teams,and while I may not be able to link his comments,he showed his disdain for blue bloods getting preferential treatment over mid-majors before.
People that think Governments and People with Power are all honest and out for your best good are the embarrassment.You probably believe everything politicians and talking heads tell you.
 
Well we've already began to make waves people!!! I just made my call, the lady who was extremely nice told me that they've been flooded with calls.

Said they review every game in regards to officiating, especially in regards to referee misconduct. They also look at the officiating history of any official that had possibly acted unprofessional to look for possible patterns such as issues with certain coaches, teams or team venues. She also said with the amount of complaints logged that it will bring that much more attention to a particular game. She said if a suspension is warranted it won't be put out for public knowledge. Said that if misconduct is found it hurts that officials overall grade for the season. The over all grade also effects that officials ability to work higher priority NCAA tournament If the misconduct is unprofessional enough that official will be pulled from games they were scheduled to officiate (costing them pay).
Point being is for those saying the fact our voice doesn't matter are dead wrong. They're taking notice. It may not lead directly to Sirmons being pulled from games but it shows a pattern of behavior of said official, and contributes to keeping that official fresh in their minds as being a problem. Keep it up guys
 
Btw if youre debating whether or not to call. Sirmons was the moron that screwed up the shot clock violation in the freaking Wisconsin game last year!!!!!!!!!! Let that sink in...........

He officiate the Kansas game this year. Let that sink in............

He had the quick trigger Saturday. He called all 4 technical fouls on Saturday. He called bogus calls all day on Saturday. Let that sink in...........

Now tell me this fool doesn't deserve a suspension from all future UK games, he obviously has an issue with our university his track record proves so. Why not call and put pressure on the league?!?!
 
Well we've already began to make waves people!!! I just made my call, the lady who was extremely nice told me that they've been flooded with calls.

Said they review every game in regards to officiating, especially in regards to referee misconduct. They also look at the officiating history of any official that had possibly acted unprofessional to look for possible patterns such as issues with certain coaches, teams or team venues. She also said with the amount of complaints logged that it will bring that much more attention to a particular game. She said if a suspension is warranted it won't be put out for public knowledge. Said that if misconduct is found it hurts that officials overall grade for the season. The over all grade also effects that officials ability to work higher priority NCAA tournament If the misconduct is unprofessional enough that official will be pulled from games they were scheduled to officiate (costing them pay).
Point being is for those saying the fact our voice doesn't matter are dead wrong. They're taking notice. It may not lead directly to Sirmons being pulled from games but it shows a pattern of behavior of said official, and contributes to keeping that official fresh in their minds as being a problem. Keep it up guys

I'm glad you posted this. I've being saying all along that the conference graded the officials. It also points out that this is not something new. They have done this for years.

It not only shows the pattern of behavior of the officials, but also the pattern of fans from certain schools who do most of the complaining. What this means is they have been on top of the problems and have ways of correcting them.
In other words there may have been some suspensions that we don't know about.
 
Well we've already began to make waves people!!! I just made my call, the lady who was extremely nice told me that they've been flooded with calls.

Said they review every game in regards to officiating, especially in regards to referee misconduct. They also look at the officiating history of any official that had possibly acted unprofessional to look for possible patterns such as issues with certain coaches, teams or team venues. She also said with the amount of complaints logged that it will bring that much more attention to a particular game. She said if a suspension is warranted it won't be put out for public knowledge. Said that if misconduct is found it hurts that officials overall grade for the season. The over all grade also effects that officials ability to work higher priority NCAA tournament If the misconduct is unprofessional enough that official will be pulled from games they were scheduled to officiate (costing them pay).
Point being is for those saying the fact our voice doesn't matter are dead wrong. They're taking notice. It may not lead directly to Sirmons being pulled from games but it shows a pattern of behavior of said official, and contributes to keeping that official fresh in their minds as being a problem. Keep it up guys

LOL! Well, we're not going to tell you if we suspend anybody. But your call matters.

Fly on a bull's ass.
 
Well,if he loves UK so much ,he has never once tried to change POS Officials like Doug Sirmons,Pat Adams,or the rest of the suspicious clowns that have actual stats that show they are either biased,on the take,or just plain awful.In fact UK keeps getting the same rotation of poor refs more so than other SEC Teams,and while I may not be able to link his comments,he showed his disdain for blue bloods getting preferential treatment over mid-majors before.
People that think Governments and People with Power are all honest and out for your best good are the embarrassment.You probably believe everything politicians and talking heads tell you.


Yes, I am not as worldly as you. I am a simpleton who doesn't believe in a grand referee conspiracy against UK.
I bet you buy a lot of gold.....
 
LOL! Well, we're not going to tell you if we suspend anybody. But your call matters.

Fly on a bull's ass.
Lol there's always a Jack ass in the bunch, looks like you showed to be such. Again if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem!!! If there's an obvious pattern of biased officiating, and the fans recognize that to the point they call; the SEC will quickly get tired of hearing fans discontent. That speaks volumes if its to the point your office is flooded with calls over and over in regards to the same official. It's not like we call about ever official.
Geniuses like you sit there and do nothing then complain when the same official screwed their team again. That's the definition of insanity to not voice your concern when you have a platform to do so! You're a so called UK "fan" yet you do nothing to put pressure on the conference to remove an official that is costing your team games.

They aren't required or cannot tell us of a suspension. Where you see the results of your opinion is when you don't see that official in your team's games any longer. Your piss poor attempt to be a keyboard badass kept you from being able to see that. Like I said there's always some genius that wants to knock an idea to bring about change while sitting on their butt and doing nothing themselves to promote change.

A narrow mind is a sad curse to live with!!!!
 
Yes, I am not as worldly as you. I am a simpleton who doesn't believe in a grand referee conspiracy against UK.
I bet you buy a lot of gold.....
Nobody is claiming a grand referee conspiracy. But you're blind to think guys like Sirmons aren't capable of biased grudges against a coach or team. Try bring something good to the discussion instead of talking out of your back side
 
Lol there's always a Jack ass in the bunch, looks like you showed to be such. Again if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem!!! If there's an obvious pattern of biased officiating, and the fans recognize that to the point they call; the SEC will quickly get tired of hearing fans discontent. That speaks volumes if its to the point your office is flooded with calls over and over in regards to the same official. It's not like we call about ever official.
Geniuses like you sit there and do nothing then complain when the same official screwed their team again. That's the definition of insanity to not voice your concern when you have a platform to do so! You're a so called UK "fan" yet you do nothing to put pressure on the conference to remove an official that is costing your team games.

They aren't required or cannot tell us of a suspension. Where you see the results of your opinion is when you don't see that official in your team's games any longer. Your piss poor attempt to be a keyboard badass kept you from being able to see that. Like I said there's always some genius that wants to knock an idea to bring about change while sitting on their butt and doing nothing themselves to promote change.

A narrow mind is a sad curse to live with!!!!

Go back and read what she said, if she actually said that which is questionable in my mind. First, she told you she's not going to tell you crap. She coddled you. She led you on. etc etc.

I'm not going to get into the fact that a receptionist is not going to have time to have a long talk with every whiner that calls because he didn't like the way the game was officiated. That stands in basic contradiction to "flooded with calls". I'll also avoid the observation that they aren't going to say anything of substance as that would encourage more silliness. I'll not go into depth on supposition that even if you had this experience that every fan base of every single school is going to start calling because they think they are the ones getting screwed. Suffice to say, your story has substantial gaps. I'd think such fabrications through a little better if I were you.
 
Cal was asked about the technicals at the press conference today and he said he wasn't allowed to talk about it. It's no wonder the officiating is so bad. They can t up a coach and the coach isn't even allowed to explain what happened, Why not allow both the coach and the official give their explanations of what happened to cause the technicals to be called? The coach is subject to public scrutiny. Why shouldn't the referee be subject to the same scrutiny?
 
People should not discount the possibility/probability that much of the poor officiating is due to officials betting on the games. This may not have been the case at USC since the game was so lopsided but, then again, maybe the bad calls at the beginning were an effort to control the score early and it may have just gotten away from the officials before they could gain full control and make the score come out where they wanted it to be.
 
Go back and read what she said, if she actually said that which is questionable in my mind. First, she told you she's not going to tell you crap. She coddled you. She led you on. etc etc.

I'm not going to get into the fact that a receptionist is not going to have time to have a long talk with every whiner that calls because he didn't like the way the game was officiated. That stands in basic contradiction to "flooded with calls". I'll also avoid the observation that they aren't going to say anything of substance as that would encourage more silliness. I'll not go into depth on supposition that even if you had this experience that every fan base of every single school is going to start calling because they think they are the ones getting screwed. Suffice to say, your story has substantial gaps. I'd think such fabrications through a little better if I were you.
She never coddled me she stayed they weren't able to release publicly and suspension. She also noted that that complaints were taken in seriousness.

Called complaints don't directly lead to an officials suspension or removal from certain team's games. But it speaks loudly to the review committee when they continue to hear complaints. That tells them it's gotten so bad that a fan base feels the need to call and voice their displeasure on a large scale. That doesn't happen every day, can you comprehend that?!?! It's not a usual thing so when it gets this bad they listen and it brings much more attention to the situation and pushes momentum towards them making a change. She didn't have to say that to me.....She didn't coddle the woman was very serious in her statements to me. I am easily able to tell when I'm being patronized, and that wasn't even close to what happened!

She respectfully explained the process they go through and stated that called complaints carries weight because it's a rarity on a large scale. It moved the needle of their awareness of the situation in the SEC offices eyes. Nobody said that she is going to have a long call with every caller. Some can simply call to urge them to look at Sirmons track record that's all it takes. She wasn't encouraging what you call silliness, she was encouraging the fact that fans voices matter on a issue of a biased official with a track record. This wasn't a single game issue as you tried to state, it's a number of games.

The difference between other schools calling is the fact that there's a history with Sirmons and poor performance in games involving UK. There's been conflict in nearly every contest. That's a far cry from every other fan base calling to complain. We can show the negative effect Sirmons has had in our games that came to a head on Saturday. You're blind if you can't see that, they can see that there's evidence in the game tapes to establish evidence of bias!!!!!! So your argument holds no weight there.

Again my story doesn't have gaps, parts of which were confirmed what another poster I this thread has been told in regards to officiating grades and how that works. She stated that mine was one of many calls from people urging that the game film be looked at!
You entered this thread for the sole purpose of being an internet bad ass . You'll complain yet do nothing but criticize anyone trying to change the situation. Now you've added calling me a liar while acting tough behind that screen. You don't like what the thread states then keep scrolling!!!!! You've brought nothing to the table as a solution, you'd rather sit on your couch and b1tch the next time Sirmons sticks it to UK. Again you're too narrow minded to take 2 minutes and put pressure in a polite way on the conference to make changes. It's far easier to be an ass, and call people liars.
 
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She never coddled me she stayed they weren't able to release publicly and suspension. She also noted that that complaints were taken in seriousness.

Called complaints don't directly lead to an officials suspension or removal from certain team's games. But it speaks loudly to the review committee when they continue to hear complaints. That tells them it's gotten so bad that a fan base feels the need to call and voice their displeasure on a large scale. That doesn't happen every day, can you comprehend that?!?! It's not a usual thing so when it gets this bad they listen and it brings much more attention to the situation and pushes momentum towards them making a change. She didn't have to say that to me.....She didn't coddle the woman was very serious in her statements to me. I am easily able to tell when I'm being patronized, and that wasn't even close to what happened!

She respectfully explained the process they go through and stated that called complaints carries weight because it's a rarity on a large scale. It moved the needle of their awareness of the situation in the SEC offices eyes. Nobody said that she is going to have a long call with every caller. Some can simply call to urge them to look at Sirmons track record that's all it takes. She wasn't encouraging what you call silliness, she was encouraging the fact that fans voices matter on a issue of a biased official with a track record. This wasn't a single game issue as you tried to state, it's a number of games.

The difference between other schools calling is the fact that there's a history with Sirmons and poor performance in games involving UK. There's been conflict in nearly every contest. That's a far cry from every other fan base calling to complain. We can show the negative effect Sirmons has had in our games that came to a head on Saturday. You're blind if you can't see that, they can see that there's evidence in the game tapes to establish evidence of bias!!!!!! So your argument holds no weight there.

Again my story doesn't have gaps, parts of which were confirmed what another poster I this thread has been told in regards to officiating grades and how that works. She stated that mine was one of many calls from people urging that the game film be looked at!
You entered this thread for the sole purpose of being an internet bad ass . You'll complain yet do nothing but criticize anyone trying to change the situation. Now you've added calling me a liar while acting tough behind that screen. You don't like what the thread states then keep scrolling!!!!! You've brought nothing to the table as a solution, you'd rather sit on your couch and b1tch the next time Sirmons sticks it to UK. Again you're too narrow minded to take 2 minutes and put pressure in a polite way on the conference to make changes. It's far easier to be an ass, and call people liars.

Sure sure.

I believe everything you say.

And you are the only one to ever have this idea. And the league takes all this seriously.

Or is it,

This only happens to Kentucky and we've only ever heard from Kentucky fans.

Just want to get my story straight. Yes, no doubt, I believe it all.

:rolleyes:
 
Sure sure.

I believe everything you say.

And you are the only one to ever have this idea. And the league takes all this seriously.

Or is it,

This only happens to Kentucky and we've only ever heard from Kentucky fans.

Just want to get my story straight. Yes, no doubt, I believe it all.

:rolleyes:
Again never said it only happens to UK, use your brain! There's an obvious rift between Sirmons and UK/Cal look at the history, facts speak for themselves,a blind man could see it. Nobody said UK fans should call and complain about ever official they feel have slighted the team, read the post. Sirmons poor officiating against UK has become to a ridiculous point, more so than any other official the fan base may have issue with. Sirmons own actions have national media members calling him out on it, it has announcers saying UK is getting a ridiculous whistle while that announcer is casing that game. Mike Pratt Damn near went ape sh1+ on the radio call. Is apparent you're the only one not capable of seeing there's a major issue with Sirmons & UK!!!!

Never said I was the first to have this idea I just presented it as a needed measure to avoid our team having to deal with a biased official again. It's the fact of voicing your opinion to try and make a change instead of sitting there and doing nothing !

The league does take it seriously when a large number of fans call. If one or two people call it's no big deal they bite it off. If a large number calls it gets their attention because it's not the norm to receive so many calls. It's the difference between one bad game being called ;and a history of bad unprofessional officiating by Sirmons against the same team multiple times.

Are you able to follow me yet? You think they like dealing with hundreds of calls regarding the same issue? Hell no they don't, it gets their attention. Our fan base has the numbers to do so.

I never asked you to believe me or not, but I'll be damned if you're going to sit there and call me a liar!! I don't have to try and convince anyone, everybody sees that Sirmons needs to be kept from officiating UK games. Again if you don't like the idea keep scrolling, nobody begged you to come on here and bring absolutely nothing to the thread ;other than showing everybody your only motivation was to spew negativity!!!
 
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Sure sure.

I believe everything you say.

And you are the only one to ever have this idea. And the league takes all this seriously.

Or is it,

This only happens to Kentucky and we've only ever heard from Kentucky fans.

Just want to get my story straight. Yes, no doubt, I believe it all.

:rolleyes:

It doesn't only happen at Kentucky and for what it's worth,the SEC has been getting heavy complaints from fans of all teams about the downward trend in officiating and blatantly terrible calls that affect game outcomes in both Basketball and Football,in fact it has lead to the removal of two SEC Football Officials
http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...ennessee-sec-officiating-replay-review-102514

http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/be...of-unnecessary-officiating-for-call/18781541/

http://razorbackers.com/2016/01/29/sec-basketball-is-being-strangled-by-poor-officiating/
 
It doesn't only happen at Kentucky and for what it's worth,the SEC has been getting heavy complaints from fans of all teams about the downward trend in officiating and blatantly terrible calls that affect game outcomes in both Basketball and Football,in fact it has lead to the removal of two SEC Football Officials
http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...ennessee-sec-officiating-replay-review-102514

http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/be...of-unnecessary-officiating-for-call/18781541/

http://razorbackers.com/2016/01/29/sec-basketball-is-being-strangled-by-poor-officiating/

Removed due to fans or removed due to video evidence submitted and reviewed objectively.
 
Again never said it only happens to UK, use your brain! There's an obvious rift between Sirmons and UK/Cal look at the history, facts speak for themselves,a blind man could see it. Nobody said UK fans should call and complain about ever official they feel have slighted the team, read the post. Sirmons poor officiating against UK has become to a ridiculous point, more so than any other official the fan base may have issue with. Sirmons own actions have national media members calling him out on it, it has announcers saying UK is getting a ridiculous whistle while that announcer is casing that game. Mike Pratt Damn near went ape sh1+ on the radio call. Is apparent you're the only one not capable of seeing there's a major issue with Sirmons & UK!!!!

Never said I was the first to have this idea I just presented it as a needed measure to avoid our team having to deal with a biased official again. It's the fact of voicing your opinion to try and make a change instead of sitting there and doing nothing !

The league does take it seriously when a large number of fans call. If one or two people call it's no big deal they bite it off. If a large number calls it gets their attention because it's not the norm to receive so many calls. It's the difference between one bad game being called ;and a history of bad unprofessional officiating by Sirmons against the same team multiple times.

Are you able to follow me yet? You think they like dealing with hundreds of calls regarding the same issue? Hell no they don't, it gets their attention. Our fan base has the numbers to do so.

I never asked you to believe me or not, but I'll be damned if you're going to sit there and call me a liar!! I don't have to try and convince anyone, everybody sees that Sirmons needs to be kept from officiating UK games. Again if you don't like the idea keep scrolling, nobody begged you to come on here and bring absolutely nothing to the thread ;other than showing everybody your only motivation was to spew negativity!!!

Just to illustrate your propensity for distorting the truth. I've not taken a position either way on Sirmons. You won't be able to produce a quote to the contrary. I've merely stated that video evidence would be far more effective than a whining caller. Again there is ample evidence of my position in this thread alone.

Now, we've established what you are. You've screwed your own pitch.
 
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