Kyle Tucker: scout on UK players testing the draft
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Come on guys, be smart! The NBA is not going anywhere...
The big problem is that even a patient kid may have a lot of people telling him you can’t waste time.
And the scout interviewed feels PJ is gone for sure. Shame if true.
Last season was kind of ridiculous with so many freakish players like Ayton, Bagley, Bamba, and Trae Young. PJ Washington and Jarred Vanderbilt would be standouts as recruits in the next class, let alone as seasoned veterans.
All three should come back. I hope to keep at least two of them,
Just about all of us here could be an NBA scout on these comments. Seems so obvious to everyone except the players. Really, PJ is gone?
The only thing I can conclude is that it must be a real hard grind to play at Kentucky under Cal and the thoughts of having to go through that again for these guys must be challenging. But, if you want to really improve and be in the NBA, that's what it takes. This is why most recruits come to Kentucky and that willingness to fight through challenges of this type needs to be in their DNA. The only other explanation on what is so obvious is these kids have surrounded themselves with bad advisors.
The only thing I can conclude is that it must be a real hard grind to play at Kentucky under Cal and the thoughts of having to go through that again for these guys must be challenging. But, if you want to really improve and be in the NBA, that's what it takes. This is why most recruits come to Kentucky and that willingness to fight through challenges of this type needs to be in their DNA. The only other explanation on what is so obvious is these kids have surrounded themselves with bad advisors.
Getting 3 of 3 back would be ideal, but getting 2 of the 3 back would be huge for next year. At this point, I would take 1 of them coming back.
Basically this scout is saying that it's the G-League if they come out this year. However, if they wait a year, the incoming Freshmen are so unimpressive, all 3 would be assured of going higher.
Who's advising these 3? It should be a no brainer to return.
Who's advising these 3? It should be a no brainer to return.
I wouldn't begrudge any kid who is going in the first round, as a matter of fact I think it's dumb not to take the money but the second round and a ticket to the G league is not smart.
I will be shocked if 2 of them don';t come back. JV is a given as he can't work out even but I think PJ will come back as well. I think Gabriel is fine making money in Europe or Asia.
As I’ve said before, some of these guys/ their circles are potentially making terrible business decisions.
All you can do is tell a 19 year old the truth. You can't make them believe you or listen.
Could possibly pass up on millions to leave this year. Hopefully they have a good influence in their ear to talk sense into the ones who would benefit by coming back!
“I could see all three leaving. I think PJ is out — I’m pretty sure he’s going — and it’s a shame, because you just look at next year’s draft and there’s a lot more opportunity,” the scout said Monday.
If true..absolutely effing ridiculous.
If true..absolutely effing ridiculous.
If true, he's passing up millions. Can't be thinking straight !
As long as vando and green (so we have one experienced guard) return I'm fine. I think Washington returns, he needs to and would be great if so. If he leaves then he's gonna leave a sour taste in the bbn's mouth. He would benefit greatly from returning due to a weak draft next season. I think vando returns and if he can have a full healthy season works his way as a top 5-10 pick. Think Washington can be top 25 if he returns. If not then goodluck in the g league and no guaranteed contract to fall back on while in the g league. I'll still be rooting for ya.
If PJ does go he needs to know that his motor has to run at 110 mph or he won't make it, limited offense and taking plays off got him bench time here. In the NBA he will be small and ineffective until he gets something more than a back down move, that will be much harder going against a 6' 9 or bigger player without more offense. He has potential but it's going to take a while.
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You don't just "turn on" a motor like that, that's an every day all thing or you're going to have to put a lot of work into building new habits. I'm not trying to mean because I like PJ as a college player, but I just don't see him leaving this year and turning into an NBA roster guy. He'll see some G league time a little NBA and then bounce overseas, IMO.
So many scouts think next year's class isn't going to be stellar yet people on here keep acting like we don't need Green. I guess it's just other teams freshmen that won't live up to expectations but ours will flourish, right.
I have a feeling pj will be casted into the Archie Goodwin Daniel Orton fan club in a short time
Dude please log off. We need green he has experience and played his role well and will get better. It's posts like this as to why we can't get guys to stay more than a year
He played his role well? Please explain. He clucked up a shot with 12 seconds left instead of passing to an open man like a pg is suppose to do. Sounds to me like a sg at 5'11 and a low IQ. Experience is good as long as their able to contribute. And I'm pretty sure they don't come on here and read what you and I have to say.
I don't care either way, its not taking food off my table but it seems like every year these scouts say the same thing except maybe to the top 5 sure fire draft picks. If they leave I will pull for them to do well where ever they end up. I cheer for and always have for the University of Kentucky. Players come and go and nothings going to change.
Way to go you pick out one play out of the whole year just to shit all over him. Are you going to include pj and his 12 missed fts, or do we not need him next year either? Point is the whole team played bad against kstate. You can't pick out one play. He averaged nearly 10 pts a game in 25 mins. Shot 80% fts, and 38% from 3 you're right his experience and chance to lead another freshman dominate team are useless. Let's hope john wall can return. Let's cut out his game winner earlier in the year as well.
jeez that was one play. get over it. green is a nice player. had a nice freshman year. averaged 9pp, shot 45% from the floor, 37% from three. he is good at what he is but also limited at the same time.
The fact that we are even having conversations about PJ Washington or Diallo going to the NBA is really just unbelievable.
PJ is valuable to next years team. We are loaded at guard. Quade is viewed as a need. I wouldn't care to have him on my bench but I don't think he would want that.
not really. college is irrelevant to these guys. they would rather grind in the g-league then be in college. i dont know why people cant accept that
How can you possibly know we are loaded at guard when the only thing for sure is IQ and Herro will be here?
PJ Washington leaving after one year is gonna put him in that category of “oh yea he did play at UK” with Archie Goodwin, James Young, Hamidou Diablo, and Daniel Orton when fans talk about em 20 years from now.
Remember though that three of the guards who could join UK are from the 2019 class.
I think you were trying to say isn't viewed as a need hence the reason we have so many guards and hagans possibly reclassifying. I haven't seen any of those guys at the college level I've seen quade. I'll take my chances knowing what he has done and knowing it will only get better
I've saw Quade and he isn't special. Hagans and Quickly are special. Quade is 5'11, unathlectic, can't create his own shot or pass the ball. He's a 5'11 spot up shooter...
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