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Kentucky's The 15 Club NIL

1. Nobody said a peep about strippers and squirting stuff on ceiling. Take a step back
2. The rules have100%’changed so why make up a reality that no longer exists? According to your logic…why should Levi’s Wandale etc get any money. Just go back to 1990 rules and prohibit all players of getting $$$$
3. The golden days of UK getting fat Tv money to build state of the art buildings, facilities for female athletes, etc. And companies like JMI, Whitaker Bank , Nike, etc being attached to UK to make their bottom line fat is not the path forward. The players are going to get a cut of the pie going forward. Asking middle class fans to kick in 500 a year to funnel that to kids while Uk keeps upwards of $55 Million and billion dollar companies keep theirs is silly and secondly not going to work regardless

UK needs to cut deals with business that will in turn push $$$ to Uk NIL collective and be done with it. It’s what is going to happen at many other Sec teams we compete with
So no no strippers, just money laundering felonies. Yeah, we need an AD in here not only willing to break NCAA rules but federal laws also.
 
So no no strippers, just money laundering felonies. Yeah, we need an AD in here not only willing to break NCAA rules but federal laws also.
Go look at the NIL deals with other schools.....it is always a ton of big booster business affiliated with the program.

1. Do you not think Garorade is getting a nice fat deal to provide all refreshments to Florida....and is it a coincidence AR15 gets a NIL?
2. DO you think At&T is getting a nice communications deal with Tennesseee....and it is a coincidence that UT players are NIL iwht them.

I mean you guys can play this "its not fair" baby crap all you want. But this is technically money laundering right out in the open. You figure a way around the rule and get the players/business to make the sports program excel. Our competition is doing it and you'll see UK falling further back and if you want to whine about and make excuses....all be it. But these things are no illegal and they won't be punished. Asking fans to o $25 a month to fund this and assuming UK and business we do deals with keep all their money and UK will get the players needed to compete....it's just so nuts to imagine that world can exist. I don't know where to begin on how far in left field you truly are.



“We are excited to create a new partnership with AT&T and University of Tennessee student-athletes,” said James Clawson, CEO of Volunteer Club. “This a perfect opportunity to highlight AT&T’s ultra-fast fiber services through student-athletes at Tennessee.”

“There is a benefit obviously for hard sales when something good happens with the athlete, we get people coming in and purchasing cookies,” President of Moonshine Mountain Cookies Mike Maddux said. “Really the long term is the soft sales. The fact that we are a locally based company, even though we ship across the country, but that we affiliate with the University of Tennessee is huge.”

Anthony Richardson has signed an NIL deal with Gatorade, the company that makes the sports drink that was developed by a team of scientists at Florida’s College of Medicine for the Gators football in 1965, On3 Sports reported. The initial purpose for the drink was to act as a replacement for body fluids lost when playing football.
 
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Go look at the NIL deals with other schools.....it is always a ton of big booster business affiliated with the program.

1. Do you not think Garorade is getting a nice fat deal to provide all refreshments to Florida....and is it a coincidence AR15 gets a NIL?
2. DO you think At&T is getting a nice communications deal with Tennesseee....and it is a coincidence that UT players are NIL iwht them.

I mean you guys can play this "its not fair" baby crap all you want. But this is technically money laundering right out in the open. You figure a way around the rule and get the players/business to make the sports program excel. Our competition is doing it and you'll see UK falling further back and if you want to whine about and make excuses....all be it. But these things are no illegal and they won't be punished. Asking fans to o $25 a month to fund this and assuming UK and business we do deals with keep all their money and UK will get the players needed to compete....it's just so nuts to imagine that world can exist. I don't know where to begin on how far in left field you truly are.



“We are excited to create a new partnership with AT&T and University of Tennessee student-athletes,” said James Clawson, CEO of Volunteer Club. “This a perfect opportunity to highlight AT&T’s ultra-fast fiber services through student-athletes at Tennessee.”

“There is a benefit obviously for hard sales when something good happens with the athlete, we get people coming in and purchasing cookies,” President of Moonshine Mountain Cookies Mike Maddux said. “Really the long term is the soft sales. The fact that we are a locally based company, even though we ship across the country, but that we affiliate with the University of Tennessee is huge.”

Anthony Richardson has signed an NIL deal with Gatorade, the company that makes the sports drink that was developed by a team of scientists at Florida’s College of Medicine for the Gators football in 1965, On3 Sports reported. The initial purpose for the drink was to act as a replacement for body fluids lost when playing football.
There is no reason why Mitch couldn’t go to UPS, YUM, the Bourbon Trail Distilleries and Lexmark to set up something similar for UK.

Why hasn’t he???!!!
 
There is no reason why Mitch couldn’t go to UPS, YUM, the Bourbon Trail Distilleries and Lexmark to set up something similar for UK.

Why hasn’t he???!!!
Right, and why hadn't he set up our offense to be like Tennessee's too. 🤡

Also JMI isn't allowing our linemen to block.


Where do you people come from?
 
Right, and why hadn't he set up our offense to be like Tennessee's too. 🤡

Also JMI isn't allowing our linemen to block.


Where do you people come from?
Read the direct quotes from FLorida and Tennessee of kids getting NIL and the companies associated with the school and players. Notice you have nothing left to comment that these obvious deals at SEC schools are going perfectly fine and not punished in any way....so why again is it crazy to suggest top button Mitch get with the times?
 
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Read the direct quotes from FLorida and Tennessee of kids getting NIL and the companies associated with the school and players. Notice you have nothing left to comment that these obvious deals at SEC schools are going perfectly fine and not punished in any way....so why again is it crazy to suggest top button Mitch get with the times?
You're utterly clueless. Read the direct quotes from Tennessee players about their offense and tell me why top button Mitch can't do the same here.
 
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You're utterly clueless. Read the direct quotes from Tennessee players about their offense and tell me why top button Mitch can't do the same here.
Clueless to the point of quoting direct NIL deals with players and companies associated with college teams....but keep on spouting off like you know something besides what is in black and white print.
 
Clueless to the point of quoting direct NIL deals with players and companies associated with college teams....but keep on spouting off like you know something besides what is in black and white print.
OK Mr Launder money through businesses.
 
Jmi can't stop mark stoops football coach from making an appearance. However it can stop mark stoops Kentucky football coach from doing so.

Now one potential exception is if one of the sponsors who funds stoops salary objects. Certain advertisers committed to fund a certain portion of stoops' salary. I'm sure included in that is veto power for any other endorsement. That would be reasonable language to add to their contract.

Jmi is really inconsequential. All these issues exist whether or not it's jmi, someone else, or the school directly. The complaints about them are nothing more than self serving politics from jones
Well, you can think whatever you want, but it's not just coming from MJ. Sometimes you have to read between the lines. Of course, no coach or anyone working with the UK AD is gonna go on record in public to air how JMI has been an obstacle rather than a constructive partner.
 
Well, you can think whatever you want, but it's not just coming from MJ. Sometimes you have to read between the lines. Of course, no coach or anyone working with the UK AD is gonna go on record in public to air how JMI has been an obstacle rather than a constructive partner.

The nil stuff is certainly coming from the football team. Jmi I doubt. Vast majority of Stoops contract is funded by specific endorsement deals and obligations. No way he expects one or more of those parties to just forgive that obligation when they're paying dearly for the very thing
 
Well, you can think whatever you want, but it's not just coming from MJ. Sometimes you have to read between the lines. Of course, no coach or anyone working with the UK AD is gonna go on record in public to air how JMI has been an obstacle rather than a constructive partner.
Not only are they not gonna, you aren't either without making up some obvious lie like JMI controls what appearances Mark Stoops can make. Oh but read between the lines.
 
Not only are they not gonna, you aren't either without making up some obvious lie like JMI controls what appearances Mark Stoops can make. Oh but read between the lines.
I love you too, sweet cheeks! 🤣🤣🤣

Look, Magilla Gorilla/Bill Bixby II, if you wanna pretend that JMI doesn't feel threatened by the NIL situation vis-a-vis their media rights deal with UK, then that's your business. Hope you have a delightful afternoon.
 
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I love you too, sweet cheeks! 🤣🤣🤣

Look, Magilla Gorilla/Bill Bixby II, if you wanna pretend that JMI doesn't feel threatened by the NIL situation vis-a-vis their media rights deal with UK, then that's your business. Hope you have a delightful afternoon.
Explain how NIL has anything to do with JMI. LOL at how clueless you goofs are. Matt Jones can make yall believe anything. He had yall thinking 71 is some magical number in basketball. That's the level of sheep you are.

So you think a collective would give money to JMI under any circumstance? Make this ignorant nonsense make sense. What specifically is the threat? Maybe call in tomorrow and ask daddy Matt. He won't have an answer either but it's worth a try.


These frauds can never explain their BS conspiracy theories.
 
Go back to choir practice with Quaker Mitch.....Oh by the way heavy rumors Barion Brown is heading out of UK to another SEC school. But go ahead and act like they're all dirty and we're the only right program.
You're wasting your time and energy on that idiot. He's either directly associated with the UK athletic dept or a JMI employee. He never comments in any thread but those discussing NIL.
He's a MB nuthugger and thinks we're still living the world of college athletics that existed in the 1980's.
You're better off putting him on ignore.
 
You're wasting your time and energy on that idiot. He's either directly associated with the UK athletic dept or a JMI employee. He never comments in any thread but those discussing NIL.
He's a MB nuthugger and thinks we're still living the world of college athletics that existed in the 1980's.
You're better off putting him on ignore.
Notice these frauds don't even try to defend their pathetic lies anymore, just lie more about what threads I post on.

Mr UT and UL got away with cheating so lets cheat and Mr lets launder money through businesses for NIL showed up together in the same clown car.
 
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I think you guys don't give specifics because you're lying frauds. Before yall adopt daddy Matt's talking points again, specifically what do yall mean by "progressive". Why is it so hard for yall to be specific and why do you always speak in code? When you say Mitch isn't behind NIL, specifically how isn'the behind NIL? When you say "be progressive on NIL" specifically what are yall talkimg about?

 
If donors actually want to do a “VIP dinner” with players they are a weirdo. Politely decline and leave them be.
Uhhh, I suspect that VIP Dinner would include some local Junior High/Little League players, if I were to entertain the thought.
 
Bill, for a poster that found his voice only on October 24th, you grind this subject pretty hard.

Hey, you need to virtually "meet" and discuss Barnhardt with Jauk11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Says the liar who can't back up his lies. Always some deflection. Typical fraud. Despite your pathetic lies, UK fully supports NIL.

See ya at the Georgia game tomorrow. Oh wait, you won't be there supporting the team. You just spew lies that hurt the team. 🤡
 
Says the liar who can't back up his lies.
Point out one of my lies??

It might be tough, given these are my first posts on these threads. (You been drinking??)

Your posts are starting to sound (and read like) "You are a Lying, Liar who Lies, Dickie Lyons, Lion King, Leon Spinks, Leonard Poast Toasties, Leonard Skynard, . . . ."

I'll be there, tomorrow, my friend, as I have been since 1988, and I will be at the Quarterback Club Friday night as well . . . . and I support UK NIL, also.
 
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There is no reason why Mitch couldn’t go to UPS, YUM, the Bourbon Trail Distilleries and Lexmark to set up something similar for UK.

Why hasn’t he???!!!
Mitch can't do it himself. Now the people in charge of the collective can. But the University can’t be directly involved. I thought everyone was aware of that. With the new Collective that’s been formed and with Athletes Advantage that both Brown and Walker are part of we now have things in place to compete in the NIL world.
 
I understand how the model works. My point is that the model is stupid. No other professional league (and let’s be honest, CFB is now a professional league) requests fans pool money to pay the players while they keep 100% of revenue. They are paid by the franchise through revenue which includes TV contracts.

So my point stands - this makes zero sense. Just drop the pretense and pay the players their cut.
Schools cannot pay players, that is still against the rules.
 
1. Nobody said a peep about strippers and squirting stuff on ceiling. Take a step back
2. The rules have100%’changed so why make up a reality that no longer exists? According to your logic…why should Levi’s Wandale etc get any money. Just go back to 1990 rules and prohibit all players of getting $$$$
3. The golden days of UK getting fat Tv money to build state of the art buildings, facilities for female athletes, etc. And companies like JMI, Whitaker Bank , Nike, etc being attached to UK to make their bottom line fat is not the path forward. The players are going to get a cut of the pie going forward. Asking middle class fans to kick in 500 a year to funnel that to kids while Uk keeps upwards of $55 Million and billion dollar companies keep theirs is silly and secondly not going to work regardless

UK needs to cut deals with business that will in turn push $$$ to Uk NIL collective and be done with it. It’s what is going to happen at many other Sec teams we compete with
Do you not think that every other school is approaching businesses and high net worth individuals to contribute? They too have collectives because there’s never enough. Kentucky is a small state, it has a relatively small number of businesses of significant size. There’s nothing happening here that isn’t happening at every other power 5 program.
What you’re suggesting is that they should just tap those resources and be happy with whatever they get despite there might be 40-50% more available by accepting smaller amounts from a larger population.
 
You compared it to professional sports where the teams pay the players.

It doesn’t have to be the teams that pay the players in order for it to be “professional”. The players are paid for their NIL due to them playing football. CFB is basically a professional sport now. Unless you’re honestly going to argue that these players would be generating the NIL deals in the absence of football similar to any other random person off the street.

Regardless, you seem to be splitting hairs on my post for the sake of arguing (as is typical for you). My post is that the current model of fans paying the players when the schools and conferences are generating billions is stupid. Which is why I suggested figuring out a compensation model for the players as opposed to UK Billy Bob seeing if he can pool together more money than UT Jimbo to entice a recruit to their school. I honestly don’t know who would think that’s the best model for CFB but I guess you can go out on that limb if you want.

By the way, ever pay @bradyjames?
 
It doesn’t have to be the teams that pay the players in order for it to be “professional”. The players are paid for their NIL due to them playing football. CFB is basically a professional sport now. Unless you’re honestly going to argue that these players would be generating the NIL deals in the absence of football similar to any other random person off the street.

Regardless, you seem to be splitting hairs on my post for the sake of arguing (as is typical for you). My post is that the current model of fans paying the players when the schools and conferences are generating billions is stupid. Which is why I suggested figuring out a compensation model for the players as opposed to UK Billy Bob seeing if he can pool together more money than UT Jimbo to entice a recruit to their school. I honestly don’t know who would think that’s the best model for CFB but I guess you can go out on that limb if you want.

By the way, ever pay @bradyjames?
The model made itself. The SCOTUS said schools couldn’t stop NIL. With that boosters from schools started offering kids deals. It’s pure capitalism. It works how it works.
Regardless of who hands money to the player it all comes from the fans one way or the other. If schools added players to the payroll then the school is going to be looking for more money. Ticket prices, KFund all increase. Every school is going to look for an advantage. Who is it that you want to make a new model? UK can’t do that on it’s own without putting itself at a disadvantage. Nobody else is going to do so and put themselves at a disadvantage. Besides, it’s all voluntary. You do it or you don’t. The market adapts to whatever you do.
 
It doesn’t have to be the teams that pay the players in order for it to be “professional”. The players are paid for their NIL due to them playing football. CFB is basically a professional sport now. Unless you’re honestly going to argue that these players would be generating the NIL deals in the absence of football similar to any other random person off the street.

Regardless, you seem to be splitting hairs on my post for the sake of arguing (as is typical for you). My post is that the current model of fans paying the players when the schools and conferences are generating billions is stupid. Which is why I suggested figuring out a compensation model for the players as opposed to UK Billy Bob seeing if he can pool together more money than UT Jimbo to entice a recruit to their school. I honestly don’t know who would think that’s the best model for CFB but I guess you can go out on that limb if you want.

By the way, ever pay @bradyjames?
No, he hasn’t.
 
I'm not sure I fully understand what NIL is or how this whole thing works, but I will do my part to kick in some $$$ when and where I can. As emotionally invested as I am in this program, how could I not? If this is what it takes to succeed in modern college sports, then lets do this.
Good post. I sent them $100. I highly recommend sending some bucks to our new collective, because you can send as much or as little as you wish. Send them $10, $100, or $1000. Whatever you decide. Entirely up to you. After you get in, then make all the positive or negative public comments you want. But if someone won't at least send $10 to the collective, then please don't complain about our recruiting. Anyone can raise a few bucks for this by taking a week off from gambling, not buying lottery tickets, or opting out of a couple of 6 packs. All of us have freedom of speech. But if you want your opinion to matter, then take the initiative to put a little skin in the game. All of us can spare $10, and some can do more.
 
Good post. I sent them $100. I highly recommend sending some bucks to our new collective, because you can send as much or as little as you wish. Send them $10, $100, or $1000. Whatever you decide. Entirely up to you. After you get in, then make all the positive or negative public comments you want. But if someone won't at least send $10 to the collective, then please don't complain about our recruiting. Anyone can raise a few bucks for this by taking a week off from gambling, not buying lottery tickets, or opting out of a couple of 6 packs. All of us have freedom of speech. But if you want your opinion to matter, then take the initiative to put a little skin in the game. All of us can spare $10, and some can do more.
I won't mention recruiting. I won't mention college football at all.
 
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