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Kentucky Fans Better Get Their NIL Act Together

Deflect. Deny. Accuse.
We know what you are.
I am not paid to ensure there is equity in the UK Athletic Department, but I know who is and so do you.
I understand his priorities are his priorities, but don't even try to act like Cal and the basketball players don't receive preferential treatment at UK and from Mitch, because they do.
Deflect from what? Your lies you can't even back up? UK absolutely supports NIL lying fraud. Now the basketball team gets prefential treatment, I thought it was the rifle team. Yall keep changing up your lies. More vague accusations with nothing to back it up.

Speaking if deflecting, lets talk UK and NIL. UK absolutely supports NIL.
 
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What are your thoughts on the reports of JMI charging a lot of money for the use of the UK logo to businesses that are setting up NIL opportunities for the athletes? Some may even call that a roadblock. Do you deny this? Is it just a big lie?
Some may be dumb af and clueless as to how the real world works. Again, thats a licensing agreement. JMI bought the rights and wont let you use them for free. That applies to just about every team on every level with the company they have a licensing agreement with. Thats why when you see athletes at every level, they usually do ads not in their official uniforms. Mean Joe Greene coke commercial, Bird and Jordan McDonalds horse commercial, Aaron Rodgers State farm, Chris Paul State Farm. It's been that way your whole life but now its an issue when you want to promote a negatibe narrative that hurts UK. It's not a roadblock, every major company in the world has figured it out.

UK's logo has value and that's why JMI paid so much for the marketing agreement. In the real world, businesses don't give away assets they paid serious money for.
 
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Deflect from what? Your lies you can't even back up? UK absolutely supports NIL lying fraud. Now the basketball team gets prefential treatment, I thought it was the rifle team. Yall keep changing up your lies. More vague accusations with nothing to back it up.

Speaking if deflecting, lets talk UK and NIL. UK absolutely supports NIL.
You are delusional and making false accusations. You have missed my point entirely.

Stop the name calling or please stay off my posts.
 
Deflect from what? Your lies you can't even back up? UK absolutely supports NIL lying fraud. Now the basketball team gets prefential treatment, I thought it was the rifle team. Yall keep changing up your lies. More vague accusations with nothing to back it up.

Speaking if deflecting, lets talk UK and NIL. UK absolutely supports NIL.
You keep saying everyone supports NIL. But there’s a chance that there is a middle man who wants his cut. So “supporting NIL” may take on a different meaning. I’m giving you the chance to educate here. Many of us are just hopeless ksr sheep Afterall.
 
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Some may be dumb af and clueless as to how the real world works. Again, thats a licensing agreement. JMI bought the rights and wont let you use them for free. That applies to just about every team on every level with the company they have a licensing agreement with. Thats why when you see athletes at every level, they usually do ads not in their official uniforms. Mean Joe Greene coke commercial, Bird and Jordan McDonalds horse commercial, Aaron Rodgers State farm, Chris Paul State Farm. It's been that way your whole life but now its an issue when you want to promote a negatibe narrative that hurts UK. It's not a roadblock, every major company in the world has figured it out.

UK's logo has value and that's why JMI paid so much for the marketing agreement. In the real world, businesses don't give away assets they paid serious money for.
If the number is exceedingly high then that kinda kills the deal. If JMI isn’t willing to be flexible then I’d call that a roadblock.

you sound like you may be covering your ass. Do you work at JMI?
 
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You are delusional and making false accusations. You have missed my point entirely.

Stop the name calling or please stay off my posts.
FOH clown, yall called me every name in the book when I called out your ignorant lies. Youre a mindless KSR goof who doesn't even know what NIL is or what collectives are. There a reason you goofs keep making bahie accusations you can't back up with anything. You're a pathetic liar actively trying to hurt UK with the lies you spew.

Oh and since yall keep getting off topic, despite your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
 
If the number is exceedingly high then that kinda kills the deal. If JMI isn’t willing to be flexible then I’d call that a roadblock.

you sound like you may be covering your ass. Do you work at JMI?
It kills the deal? Again, pure stupidity. They can do ads with NBA NFL and MLB players without their team logo but its a roadblock in college? LOL, whatever it takes to promote your lie and negative recruit UK by putting out false narrative that we don't support NIL.

Despite your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
 
FOH clown, yall called me every name in the book when I called out your ignorant lies. Youre a mindless KSR goof who doesn't even know what NIL is or what collectives are. There a reason you goofs keep making bahie accusations you can't back up with anything. You're a pathetic liar actively trying to hurt UK with the lies you spew.

Oh and since yall keep getting off topic, despite your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
Ok listen junior. You’re talking to everyone like they are ignorant pieces of shit. So stop acting a limp wristed little victim. You’ve done more name calling than anyone. If you can’t be a man and handle this without getting butthurt then you should peace out.
 
It kills the deal? Again, pure stupidity. They can do ads with NBA NFL and MLB players without their team logo but its a roadblock in college? LOL, whatever it takes to promote your lie and negative recruit UK by putting out false narrative that we don't support NIL.

Despite your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
If a business wants to have will levis but they feel that his value is lessened if he isn’t in his jersey then the business is forced to pay the fee for the use of the jersey. Or if they want to sell pictures they will want the logo. No on wil want to buy a pic of the qb wearing a plain white shirt. If the business can’t afford the fee then it kills the deal.

does that make sense dipshit? Oh and btw, I am officially resorting to name calling. You’re a disrespectful prick to everyone. You earn what you get loser.
 
FOH clown, yall called me every name in the book when I called out your ignorant lies. Youre a mindless KSR goof who doesn't even know what NIL is or what collectives are. There a reason you goofs keep making bahie accusations you can't back up with anything. You're a pathetic liar actively trying to hurt UK with the lies you spew.

Oh and since yall keep getting off topic, despite your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
Dude, you are delusional. Show me one post where I called you names.

Not a Matt Jones fan either. Don't know why you're tripping but you are.

I can fix it for you. On Ignore you go. You are unstable. Get help before you harm yourself or someone else over a message board.

Good grief.
 
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If a business wants to have will levis but they feel that his value is lessened if he isn’t in his jersey then the business is forced to pay the fee for the use of the jersey. Or if they want to sell pictures they will want the logo. No on wil want to buy a pic of the qb wearing a plain white shirt. If the business can’t afford the fee then it kills the deal.

does that make sense dipshit? Oh and btw, I am officially resorting to name calling. You’re a disrespectful prick to everyone. You earn what you get loser.
Jesus Christ, you're a complete moron. The UK logo has value dumb boy, thats why businesses want to use it, thats why JMI paid big money for it. Businesses profit from using it, JMI paid $210 million for marketing rights. They're not gonna give away for free what they paid $210 million dollars dumb boy. Thats how the world works ignorant goof, if the business wants to use UKs logo to profit they have to pay for it like everyone else.

Again, completely clueless, every company that has a licensing agreement with a team charges for its use of the logo that they own. Sorry, thats how the world works.
 
Ok listen junior. You’re talking to everyone like they are ignorant pieces of shit. So stop acting a limp wristed little victim. You’ve done more name calling than anyone. If you can’t be a man and handle this without getting butthurt then you should peace out.
You are, thats why you continuosly lie qnd try to hurt the program. You're a joke and so are all of the other liars. I haven't called anyone a name whondidnt call me one first including you lying fraud. Keep that same energy you had when you started in on me.

Oh and despite your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
 
Jesus Christ, you're a complete moron. The UK logo has value dumb boy, thats why businesses want to use it, thats why JMI paid big money for it. Businesses profit from using it, JMI paid $210 million for marketing rights. They're not gonna give away for free what they paid $210 million dollars dumb boy. Thats how the world works ignorant goof, if the business wants to use UKs logo to profit they have to pay for it like everyone else.

Again, completely clueless, every company that has a licensing agreement with a team charges for its use of the logo that they own. Sorry, thats how the world works.
So in other words They signed a shit deal and now they are forced to over charge and the athletes are getting screwed. Does that sum it up bitch?
 
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So in other words They signed a shit deal and now they are forced to over charge and the athletes are getting screwed. Does that sum it up bitch?
So in other words theu do what every other marketing company in the world does, you're just a simpleton who doesn't get it and you're more interested in promoting false narratives against UK.


BTW, despite your pathetic lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
 
Jesus Christ, you're a complete moron. The UK logo has value dumb boy, thats why businesses want to use it, thats why JMI paid big money for it. Businesses profit from using it, JMI paid $210 million for marketing rights. They're not gonna give away for free what they paid $210 million dollars dumb boy. Thats how the world works ignorant goof, if the business wants to use UKs logo to profit they have to pay for it like everyone else.

Again, completely clueless, every company that has a licensing agreement with a team charges for its use of the logo that they own. Sorry, thats how the world works.
 
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I surmise that @Bill Bixby II is with JMI or in bed with JMI. Given how extra triggered he gets when the licensing deal comes up. Also given the great lengths he goes to explain and defend licensing agreements to begin with.

now I wasn’t listening to the show and I don’t have Twitter but I gather Matt jones publicly aired some details about the licensing agreement and how it became a roadblock for businesses when they wanted to set up NIL. He may have even tossed out s number (125k). This would explain bills intense hatred for ksr. If I had to guess jones himself probably wanted to work with an athlete but balked when faced with having to pay a fee to JMI. Just my guess. So now they both have an ax to grind.

am I close billy?
 
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I surmise that @Bill Bixby II is with JMI or in bed with JMI. Given how extra triggered he gets when the licensing deal comes up. Also given the great lengths he goes to explain and defend licensing agreements to begin with.

now I wasn’t listening to the show and I don’t have Twitter but I gather Matt jones publicly aired some details about the licensing agreement and how it became a roadblock for businesses when they wanted to set up NIL. He may have even tossed out s number (125k). This would explain bills intense hatred for ksr. If I had to guess jones himself probably wanted to work with an athlete but balked when faced with having to pay a fee to JMI. Just my guess. So now they both have an ax to grind.

am I close billy?
Anything to deflect from your lies about UK not supporting NIL. Despite your lies, UK absolutely supports NIL.
 
Doing nothing IS a choice.

There is one person responsible for fund raising and allocating booster donations.

Since the athletic department has feasted off SEC football revenue, the AD should make booster donations to NIL for FB a priority.

Read Cal's message on NIL. One head coach is bragging while the other head coach is begging for support.

The AD needs to get this fixed or prepare for the upcoming disaster in recruiting and trying to rebuild the program once again.......maybe even trying to find another coach who thinks he can recruit FB players to UK without NIL money.

Mitch owns this. He must step up and get UK on level footing with the SEC programs that we are trying to compete with sooner rather than later.

And, yes, he can do it. If he wants to.
Did you hear Vince Marrows comments about UK’s athletic department and NIL?

The AD can only control general donations and where they are allocated. When boosters make large donations they specify where they go. I don’t think donations have been a huge problem since Mitch has been here. Our facilities are very good. NIL is a different animal. Boosters pay athletes directly and will pay athletes from the team they follow most. The AD has no control whatsoever what a booster chooses to do with NIL money.
 
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Did you hear Vince Marrows comments about UK’s athletic department and NIL?

The AD can only control general donations and where they are allocated. When boosters make large donations they specify where they go. I don’t think donations have been a huge problem since Mitch has been here. Our facilities are very good. NIL is a different animal. Boosters pay athletes directly and will pay athletes from the team they follow most. The AD has no control whatsoever what a booster chooses to do with NIL money.
They're prolly gonna turn against Vince Marrow next. Nothing comes before their BS narrative and degrading the program.

 
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Did you hear Vince Marrows comments about UK’s athletic department and NIL?

The AD can only control general donations and where they are allocated. When boosters make large donations they specify where they go. I don’t think donations have been a huge problem since Mitch has been here. Our facilities are very good. NIL is a different animal. Boosters pay athletes directly and will pay athletes from the team they follow most. The AD has no control whatsoever what a booster chooses to do with NIL money.
Lol. Yes, I did hear what Vince said to media. What do you think he is going to say about NIL " my bosses boss is screwing the football team" ??
How long do you think he would remain employed by MB if he called him out on NIL??

I also heard Coach Mark Stoops practically BEGGING for NIL help for his players. Did you hear that???

Are you telling me that MB could not influence these big donors as to WHERE their donations are needed the most??

You can’t be that naive.
 
Oh so UK does support NIL, you me and Vince Marrow agree.
I’m telling you that you made that up. You put words in my mouth. You’re a dirty liar. You’re triggered so bad that you’re unhinged and making a fool of yourself.

but I’ll tell you what. Let’s let bygones be bygones. Let’s meet over at KSBar for lunch. My treat. What time do you get your lunch break at JMI? I’ll be flexible. I know those floors won’t mop themselves.
 
Lol. Yes, I did hear what Vince said to media. What do you think he is going to say about NIL " my bosses boss is screwing the football team" ??
How long do you think he would remain employed by MB if he called him out on NIL??

I also heard Coach Mark Stoops practically BEGGING for NIL help for his players. Did you hear that???

Are you telling me that MB could not influence these big donors as to WHERE their donations are needed the most??

You can’t be that naive.
Yes he can certainly tell them we need NIL money for football. How do you know that hasn’t happened? Stoops says there isn’t enough NIL money and businesses need to step up. That has nothing to do with UK. How is the AD responsible for businesses not stepping up for football?

So we should ignore what Marrow says publicly but should pay attention to the people on here who are “reading between the lines”. Got it.
 
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Yes he can certainly tell them we need NIL money for football. How do you know that hasn’t happened? Stoops says there isn’t enough NIL money and businesses need to step up. That has nothing to do with UK. How is the AD responsible for businesses not stepping up for football?

So we should ignore what Marrow says publicly but should pay attention to the people on here who are “reading between the lines”. Got it.
Finally. Have a good night sir.
 
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Dude, you are delusional. Show me one post where I called you names.

Not a Matt Jones fan either. Don't know why your tripping but you are.

I can fix it for you. On Ignore you go. You are unstable. Get help before you harm yourself or someone else over a message board.

Good grief.
Good move. That dude (who has used several other names in the past few month) is either employed by the athletic dept, JMI or is a relative of Barnhart. There's no other explanation. I've asked him repeatedly to disclose his connection and he always gets PO'd and starts with the deflections, accusations and name calling.
He'll change his username again soon and be back nuthugging Barnhart in every post related to NIL.
 
Good move. That dude (who has used several other names in the past few month) is either employed by the athletic dept, JMI or is a relative of Barnhart. There's no other explanation. I've asked him repeatedly to disclose his connection and he always gets PO'd and starts with the deflections, accusations and name calling.
He'll change his username again soon and be back nuthugging Barnhart in every post related to NIL.
I think he’s in bed with JMI. Matt jones really pissed him off when he publicly aired his grievances about the licensing fees and the hurdles caused by the exorbitant fees to use the logo. Matt probably wanted to do a nil event but balked when he saw how much JMI was charging him. So he complained online and on air and that’s bad for JMI business
 
This NIL thing may be on the verge of getting tested in court system. Back in the summer Miami booster signed QB Rashada to a 9.5m NIL deal, he flipped to UF today. So will the booster go after his money or write it off? Will the kid be able to play anywhere if his case is tied up in the court system? If Miami files an injunction to keep him from playing until things are settle. Does his eligibility clock start?
 
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Is this a serious counter argument? Lol first off that’s a whole different issue. Not even remotely the same. I am a supporter of the right to bear arms. Matter of fact I’m a supporter of the whole constitution. I don’t think we need to change it or re write it and amendments should be kept to a very bare minimum. Second off you are right. They are paid with a scholarship to play hall. That’s the work and the pay. The end. The problem is that saying that’s all they can “earn” is just not right at all. Does your employer tell you that you are absolutely forbidden to earn any money outside of what they pay you? No one’s does. See the problem with telling athletes they can’t? I am struggling to see how right yo hear arms and human right violations have any bearing at all on wanting to restrict a grown adults earnings off of themselves by taking business opportunities presented to them.
Actually a lot of companies do that. If they train you you can’t work for a rival for a set number of years. Don’t get me wrong I’m a veteran and a supporter of our constitution. I’m just not a supporter of lawyers bending it to their will. I think the kids also deserve endorsements if they are a star and people will pay to endorse their product. That’s not asking the fan base to donate money so they can be paid to play. See how that’s using the constitution as justification to bend to someone’s will?
 
This NIL thing may be on the verge of getting tested in court system. Back in the summer Miami booster signed QB Rashada to a 9.5m NIL deal, he flipped to UF today. So will the booster go after his money or write it off? Will the kid be able to play anywhere if his case is tied up in the court system? If Miami files an injunction to keep him from playing until things are settle. Does his eligibility clock start?
He was paid for his name image and likeness, not to play for Miami. The booster SOL.
 
Is this a serious counter argument? Lol first off that’s a whole different issue. Not even remotely the same. I am a supporter of the right to bear arms. Matter of fact I’m a supporter of the whole constitution. I don’t think we need to change it or re write it and amendments should be kept to a very bare minimum. Second off you are right. They are paid with a scholarship to play hall. That’s the work and the pay. The end. The problem is that saying that’s all they can “earn” is just not right at all. Does your employer tell you that you are absolutely forbidden to earn any money outside of what they pay you? No one’s does. See the problem with telling athletes they can’t? I am struggling to see how right yo hear arms and human right violations have any bearing at all on wanting to restrict a grown adults earnings off of themselves by taking business opportunities presented to them.
Actually a lot of companies do that. If they train you you can’t work for a rival for a set number of years. Don’t get me wrong I’m a veteran and a supporter of our constitution. I’m just not a supporter of lawyers bending it to their will. I think the kids also deserve endorsements if they are a star and people will pay to endorse their product. That’s not asking the fan base to donate money so they can be paid to play. See how that’s been bent to someone’s will
 
Actually a lot of companies do that. If they train you you can’t work for a rival for a set number of years. Don’t get me wrong I’m a veteran and a supporter of our constitution. I’m just not a supporter of lawyers bending it to their will. I think the kids also deserve endorsements if they are a star and people will pay to endorse their product. That’s not asking the fan base to donate money so they can be paid to play. See how that’s using the constitution as justification to bend to someone’s will?
Actually they don’t. That’s different. You are talking about a non compete clause in a contract. That’s not what these kids are doing. Those companies have that in the contracts so you can’t use your skills they taught you at a competitor company to help them. Not at all what athletes are doing with nil. Now if they say sign an endorsement with coke they probably have that in their contracts that they can’t sign to endorse Pepsi at the same time. These kids aren’t costing, damaging or competing against their ncaa school. If you are an accountant at company A they can’t keep you from cutting peoples yards on the side as a business as long as it doesn’t interfere with your obligations to company A. NIL wasn’t set up to be fans funneling money to kids and I do think a whole lot of that is going on. At the same time when a collective is formed it’s basically a company and I don’t know how you tell a company they can’t hire out and pay for something that’s legal to do.
 
Actually they don’t. That’s different. You are talking about a non compete clause in a contract. That’s not what these kids are doing. Those companies have that in the contracts so you can’t use your skills they taught you at a competitor company to help them. Not at all what athletes are doing with nil. Now if they say sign an endorsement with coke they probably have that in their contracts that they can’t sign to endorse Pepsi at the same time. These kids aren’t costing, damaging or competing against their ncaa school. If you are an accountant at company A they can’t keep you from cutting peoples yards on the side as a business as long as it doesn’t interfere with your obligations to company A. NIL wasn’t set up to be fans funneling money to kids and I do think a whole lot of that is going on. At the same time when a collective is formed it’s basically a company and I don’t know how you tell a company they can’t hire out and pay for something that’s legal to do.
It’s just a big mess. My fandom has taken a huge hit. All I’m saying. I’m bummed.
 
It’s just a big mess. My fandom has taken a huge hit. All I’m saying. I’m bummed.
I understand. I don’t know what the right answer is but flat out buying recruits is not it. I agree with you on that. I also know it had gotten to the point where only 5 or 6 teams realistically were in contention each year and it was the exact same teams each year with maybe only one or two changing in and out and that was awful for the rest of us to watch and try to enjoy. I miss it how it was when you never knew going into a season and it could be any team out of about 30 or so. When the same 4 teams get first pick out of all the top prospects at each position it’s not a good product on the whole for the rest of us. I am hopeful somehow nil does change that at least some and it’ll take a while to shake out and see what’s gonna happen from it all. Right now a few teams seem to be out in front but every big school has major money and these nils will too.
 
You have access to the contract? Guy didn't get to be a billionaire to be outwitted by a high school kid, plus he is an attorney.
I don't have access to the contract but it was reported as a name image and likeness deal, not a pay for play contract to play for a college which I believe is illegal on multiple levels.
 
If he was dumb enough to give Rashada any money before a binding letter of commitment could be signed in Dec....well, that's on Ruiz. Ain't getting it back, ain't getting Rashada declared ineligible.
 
If he was dumb enough to give Rashada any money before a binding letter of commitment could be signed in Dec....well, that's on Ruiz. Ain't getting it back, ain't getting Rashada declared ineligible.
This is Eric Dickerson's Trans Am part 2.
 
I don't have access to the contract but it was reported as a name image and likeness deal, not a pay for play contract to play for a college which I believe is illegal on multiple levels.

Do you think Ruiz wrote that contract up without a safety net to protect himself from this very thing?
 
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