You have to hold someone accountable. Who?
Man, I don't know. Everyone? Good luck figuring that out. You can only be held accountable when there's a uniform set of rules. I don't think we're even to that point yet.
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You have to hold someone accountable. Who?
Man, I don't know. Everyone? Good luck figuring that out. You can only be held accountable when there's a uniform set of rules. I don't think we're even to that point yet.
I think the issue is all over the place. I think in lots of cases, there are people and groups who have been trying to solve these problems for years but either don't have the means or resources or manpower or support to make it happen (for thousands of reasons).
I also think there are people who don't want it solved (like I mentioned above, usually for personal and political gain).
I also think there are people who believe those issues will be improved if these other things (poverty, education, police relations, etc) are improved and focus their efforts elsewhere but are hoping for the same end result you are.
There are people who don't actually want to do anything and just want to talk because it alleviates them of guilt and makes a social statement.
There are people who believe it's a product of systemic racism and that until racism is solved, that those issues can't be (kind of the reverse stance of what we're talking about, I guess).
So I don't think it's fair to label anyone who's speaking out as one particular thing or act like there's this overarching force trying to keep the situation tumultuous. I think it's mostly well-meaning and well-reasoned people with different ideas, trying different solutions, without the unity and organization it will probably take to fix something of that magnitude. Too many cooks, so to speak.
It's probably a combination of all the factors I mentioned and more, but we aren't in a climate where nuance and discussion is allowed, and the feelings and emotions and opinions are so hot (and getting hotter) that it's just folks trying to talk over each other and call the other side a villain. And that lets the real villains slip through the cracks.
Sure we are...the ten commandments...oh yeah, I forgot. Those are not legal ...
Whoa, which one? I didn't even know I did, for real.Oh, and before I forget, @Cowtown Cat I saw that like you slid in there on that bash trump post!!!
And you were one of my favorites.
It's like I don't even know you.
I think I missed that particular piece of legislation.
We can use them personally, but I'd hate to be "held accountable" by someone else's religious texts, so I'd rather not go down that road.
Actually, the biggest problem facing our country is the fanatical belief that one ideology is always right and the other is always wrong, despite logic to the contrary. The weak minded fall prey to this quite easily.
Whoa, which one? I didn't even know I did, for real.
Edit: You're talking about @GonzoCat90's post. I didn't take it as a slam on Trump (I don't dislike Trump at all). I liked it because it was a fair and valid point on the part of @GonzoCat90. Mostly, I'm not a big Twatter fan.
Oh, and before I forget, @Cowtown Cat I saw that like you slid in there on that bash trump post!!!
And you were one of my favorites.
It's like I don't even know you.
Whoa, which one? I didn't even know I did, for real.
Edit: You're talking about @GonzoCat90's post. I didn't take it as a slam on Trump (I don't dislike Trump at all). I liked it because it was a fair and valid point on the part of @GonzoCat90. Mostly, I'm not a big Twatter fan.
Just really dislike the Twatter, bud. Twat, yes. Twatter, no. Embarrassed? Why? Not sure if serious.Ooooohhhhhhhhh
I’m embarrassed.
but the man has zero history of being a racist
Wait, you like bud, Twitter, and don't like Twat?Just really dislike the Twatter, bud. Twat, yes. Twatter, no. Embarrassed? Why? Not sure if serious.
Okay, okay. I like bud. I like twat. I like Trump. I dislike Twitter.Wait, you like bud, Twitter, and don't like Twat?
This world.
Guy goin proof point for Marksism party....
cites the NYT
Of course, you won't read the article.
Way to stay ignorant.
Oh boy.I already know what's in the article dipweed. That issue was debated and beat to death for an entire year.
Trump has a history of promoting jews, blacks, whites, women, and others through his businesses. A racist and bigoted person doesn't do that. That article proves nothing, you are the ignorant one. Try 1955, that's what you're digging for.
I was joking with cowtown, I wasn't trying to do this. If you want, stop by the political thread and get smashed.
I already know what's in the article dipweed. .
You had an opportunity for an intelligent response...yet you revert to middle-school name-calling.
Show us the sources for all of Trump's magnanimy.
Really?
You are misinformed.
I can give many examples. Here is one:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/28/us/politics/donald-trump-housing-race.html
You'll read about as much of this as you read KAT's article.
Very akin to tribalism, political parties, and chimpanzee behavior in the wild.
This whole thing is disgusting. We've got the extreme right and the extreme left committing acts of violence, hate speech, facism, and even terrorism. I would argue that both groups are very vocal minorities of our country, but that doesn't diminish the damage they're causing.
We have to stop viewing each other by the color of our skin. the color of one's skin makes up, approximately, the same percentage of one's gentletic makeup as their eye color. So, basically nothing.
Don't hate people for the color of their skin. There are plenty of reasons not to like someone without devolving to that.
Stop viewing this as white vs black, gay vs straight, etc. what's going on right now is American on American crime. And with all the people that don't like us across the globe I would think we have enough to deal with without going after each other.
Bravo. That was one incredible side step.There have been people trying to fix this problem for forty years. It's just a really complex problem.
It's en vogue to say nobody's paying attention to it ("What about Chicago?!," etc.), but I think the truth is that there are people who are paying attention--it's just not a sexy enough topic for the media.
We have the same problem in Kentucky with the eastern part of the state. There've been systemic, entrenched problems in eastern Kentucky for the entirety of the second half of the 20th century and into this one.
It would be easy for someone to say they don't care about Kentucky because Kentucky can't fix the problems in eastern Kentucky. But the truth is there *are* people trying to fix those problems. They're just so complex that the fixes are mystifying--and costly.
No reason to eat him. He’s got an opinion and actually I appreciate him doing what no other athlete has done as far as I can tell. He expressed it in an articulate manner and made his point without the disrespect.
He’s wrong on an awful lot in that and I could spend a long time explaining why, what he’s ignoring, and the parts that have been fabricated news, but I won’t. He’s a rich guy that lives in an echo chamber. Just the way it is.
Bravo. That was one incredible side step.
How many murders have been committed in the entirety of the Commonwealth this year? We're talking about taking life, ass. Not poverty. Not overdoses. MURDER.
How many murders have been committed in the entirety of the Commonwealth this year? We're talking about taking life, ass. Not poverty. Not overdoses. MURDER. You aren't worth the thtime taken if you can't even admit to that much.
You're still deflecting answering why blacks care more about the very, very few blacks killed by Law as compared to the number they take themselves. I'm talking outrage in the community, if that's not clear.
Answer the question directly, please, if you can.
We;re done here. Good luck tying your shoes.You don't think the murders in the inner city are connected to generational poverty? (And often drugs.)
It's all part of the same cycle. There's slow-motion suicide going on in eastern Kentucky right now, this second. A guy goes to a TJ Maxx parking lot in Middlesboro and doles out meth--what is that but a kind of murder?
It's the same thing. Both of these communities are hollowed out and lost. One just happens to be 90% white.
Yes, changing the light bulb makes sense when the house is burning down.There is no doubt that black on black crime is a huge issue.
But that doesn't mean they can't speak out about another issue even tho if affects less people. Maybe they are speaking out on this issue because it's one that should be the easiest to solve right now.
Yes, changing the light bulb makes sense when the house is burning down.