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Kansas vs Arkansas Exhibition Friday

Listen “Bro”, you’re still not getting it. Cal University is good not Arkansas. Reality will hit you in the face when you finally realize Cal only cares about Cal and his players and doesn’t give 2 shits about the school. When he starts sacrificing wins for players protection or when he won’t make changes that are blatantly obvious and then he tells the fans to shut up and know their place then come back and post.
You couldn't have said it better. The players who followed Cal didn't go with him because he went to Arkansas. Before Cal went there, they probably couldn't have identified Arkansas on a map. Those players would have followed Cal to hell if they thought it would fast track them to the NBA.
 
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Everyone chill out.

A couple of things are going on here.

1) Hog fans have some relevancy. They had the hire of the off season. They have some pre-season hype.

2) UK fans have a funny relationship with former basketball coaches who did great, won a title, but ultimately peaked and then fell off.

Cat fans, you all need to get over it. What'd you think was going to happen? Cal poops and doesn't win a game?

He's a hall of fame coach. He's going to win games. He's going to make the hogs relevant.

Hog fans. Cal peaked here. Congrats on the off season. Congrats on the recruiting/portal class. Congrats on the preseason ranking/hype.

The party will fade about SEC tournament and March Madness. It'll kick back up again on draft night.

Draft night, recruiting trail, pre-rankings, exhibition season, most of regular season...good to sometimes great.

Post season...look out for Tech Tech and don't say we didn't warn ya.

Rinse and repeat.
 
Everyone chill out.

A couple of things are going on here.

1) Hog fans have some relevancy. They had the hire of the off season. They have some pre-season hype.

2) UK fans have a funny relationship with former basketball coaches who did great, won a title, but ultimately peaked and then fell off.

Cat fans, you all need to get over it. What'd you think was going to happen? Cal poops and doesn't win a game?

He's a hall of fame coach. He's going to win games. He's going to make the hogs relevant.

Hog fans. Cal peaked here. Congrats on the off season. Congrats on the recruiting/portal class. Congrats on the preseason ranking/hype.

The party will fade about SEC tournament and March Madness. It'll kick back up again on draft night.

Draft night, recruiting trail, pre-rankings, exhibition season, most of regular season...good to sometimes great.

Post season...look out for Tech Tech and don't say we didn't warn ya.

Rinse and repeat.
You can post whatever you like; however, it isn't going to change the fact that this is the wrong place for hoggs to come looking for flattering comments about Cal or Arkansas. If you don't get it, it says more about you than it does about UK fans. I can assure you hoggs didn't light up their message board with flattering comments about UK after our preseason win.
 
I likely won't participate much in the nauseating Coach Cal threads this year.

We've all seen the same song and dance for 15 years. The Hog fans have a right to be excited but Anthony Davis isn't walking through that door.

The only thing I'm curious about is if Coach Cal thrives out of the limelight. His players and himself will be more focused on basketball instead of the craziness of Kentucky.
 
You can post whatever you like; however, it isn't going to change the fact that this is the wrong place for hoggs to come looking for flattering comments about Cal or Arkansas. If you don't get it, it says more about you than it does about UK fans. I can assure you hoggs didn't light up their message board with flattering comments about UK after our preseason win.

First, hogs beat Kansas.

Second, hogs Coach is John Calipari. One of the biggest names in coaching BECAUSE OF HIS 15 YEARS AT UK!

Mark Pope was at Utah State State, beat Kentucky Wesleyan. Little bit different.

Hogs don't know Pope, and I would venture to guess they've never heard of Kentucky Wesleyan. So, the former coach of Utah Tech of Utah State at Utah getting a dub vs a high school for all they know, doesn't register.

They're in the same conference as us for crying out loud. Where else are they going to go to talk basketball and John Calipari? Alabama, UGA forums?

There's one fanbase and sports forum that really cares about basketball and has decent conversational traffic.
 
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Some on here are going to keep it real. If posters are looking for flattering posts about Arkansas, they should stick to their message board. I am not giving Arkansas credit for pirating UK players. Surely you are not suggesting that this Arkansas team is as good as Kentucky's 23/24 team. How did that turnout? Cal having an abundance of talent on a team is like giving a 1-year-old a 5-star meal. When the kid is finished, it will be a damn mess regardless of the quality of the food and that best describes Cal with talented players. When he finishes with them, they will be a damn mess.
I’m not praise Arkansas every day on here, but I’m also not gonna act like they don’t have a good team. They have a very good team, and for 23/24 vs Arkansas part we have to see them play a good chunk of games first. Arkansas is gonna contending for the top part of the league this year, now they may fizzle out in March again, but I’m not gonna act like they have a bad squad
 
First, hogs beat Kansas.

Second, hogs Coach is John Calipari. One of the biggest names in coaching BECAUSE OF HIS 15 YEARS AT UK!

Mark Pope was at Utah State State, beat Kentucky Wesleyan. Little bit different.

Hogs don't know Pope, and I would venture to guess they've never heard of Kentucky Wesleyan. So, the former coach of Utah Tech of Utah State at Utah getting a dub vs a high school for all they know, doesn't register.

They're in the same conference as us for crying out loud. Where else are they going to go to talk basketball and John Calipari? Alabama, UGA forums?

There's one fanbase and sports forum that really cares about basketball and has decent conversational traffic.
Where else are they going to go to talk basketball and John Calipari? I have a novel idea for you. They can go to their own message board. It isn't our problem that there isn't enough interest there to make it entertaining for them. Why do you even care? They have the right to post on this message board based on board rules, but they don't have the right to insist that we post nice things about Arkansas. They come at the risk of getting their feelings hurt.
 
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I’m not praise Arkansas every day on here, but I’m also not gonna act like they don’t have a good team. They have a very good team, and for 23/24 vs Arkansas part we have to see them play a good chunk of games first. Arkansas is gonna contending for the top part of the league this year, now they may fizzle out in March again, but I’m not gonna act like they have a bad squad
You saw them play a shell of the actual KU team which suggest that you don't have nearly enough data to know what kind of team they have. In one sentence you state we have to see them play a good chunk of games to evaluate them and in another sentence, you state that they will be contending for the top of the conference. Which is it? Do we wait or have you seen enough after seeding them play a KU team missing major components of their team?
 
Well this will be a fun year. Arkansas fans have lucked into some relevancy after taking up our sloppy seconds. So naturally they will be here to rub whatever success they have in our face, literally for no reason.

Then we have our big blue brethren suddenly riddled with bitterness and paranoia toward an Arkansas program that they previously couldn’t care less about. We out here rooting for Kansas now? Is this Cal derangement syndrome? Hey I’m guilty myself. I don’t want to see the shitshow that comes with Cal winning away from Kentucky.

In 5 years this will all be a passing memory. Cal will be retired and he will come “home” like Rick just did. Arky will fall back off the map like always. We will still be Kentucky.
I wish people would stop saying “sloppy seconds” when Pope is much lower on the coaching chart in the present and past (resume). Pope has a lot to prove based on his resume of never winning in the tournament. And yes he has gotten better players since he’s at a better school, but the flip side is he’s always had much older players than other colleges while at BYU which gave him an advantage. Factor in that he was Kentuckys third choice at best and he has a lot to prove.

This wouldn’t matter as much at other schools but hes at Kentucky and the lowest of expectations is to be better than Calipari (if your being honest) for this season, and after this season, minimum expectations is sweet 16, Elite eight, final four, title or at least getting to the title game, within the next four years in any order other than reverse
 
You saw them play a shell of the actual KU team which suggest that you don't have nearly enough data to know what kind of team they have. In one sentence you state we have to see them play a good chunk of games to evaluate them and in another sentence, you state that they will be contending for the top of the conference. Which is it? Do we wait or have you seen enough after seeding them play a KU team missing major components of their team?
Your making a long term assumption that they will be bad based on little data, and are calling me out for it, when you are doing the same thing, just to make the opposite argument. And no, I have thought the whole time Arkansas will be good this year, they have the roster to be good for the coaching staff they have. We had fans on here acting like Kentucky won a damn championship for beating a D2 team, so you can’t say Arkansas beating a high major opponent is any less of an overreaction. I wanted cal gone for multiple seasons now, but this roster he has is built for him to be good this year.
 
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I wish people would stop saying “sloppy seconds” when Pope is much lower on the coaching chart in the present and past (resume). Pope has a lot to prove based on his resume of never winning in the tournament. And yes he has gotten better players since he’s at a better school, but the flip side is he’s always had much older players than other colleges while at BYU which gave him an advantage. Factor in that he was Kentuckys third choice at best and he has a lot to prove.

This wouldn’t matter as much at other schools but hes at Kentucky and the lowest of expectations is to be better than Calipari (if your being honest) for this season, and after this season, minimum expectations is sweet 16, Elite eight, final four, title or at least getting to the title game, within the next four years in any order other than reverse
Huh? I’m saying that arky is getting Kentuckys sloppy seconds. In this case cal is the ex who was been rode hard and put up wet. Pope is our new girl.

I think maybe you don’t know what sloppy seconds means. That could be good for you if you’ve never had to settle for SS. But it could be bad because maybe you did but didn’t realize it. Such a quandary
 
I actually have a good friend who is a die hard Cat and I have heard all of this the last 2-3 years . I don't think your post is hyperbole and know you are probably spot on with the majority if not all of it .

I have posted on here in the past that Cal is not the coach i wanted , of course who would have ever thought he was a possibility but none the less I wanted Chris Beard or Will Wade ( not looking for a preacher) .

What I do like about Cal and what he brings to the table is the amount of exposure the Razorback brand will get and should elevate back to the next tier behind the true Blue Bloods of KY N Car Duke Kansas UConn .

Cal has already shown the recruiting will not slow at all with last years Class . Acuff already committed for this year and waiting on a commitment from Malik Thomas and Chris Cenac . From our understanding he will only be taking 3-4 Frosh and blend with returning players along with experienced transfers . This alone is a recipe he didn't venture to much into at Kentucky so we will see how it turns out.

For all intensive purposes the the Cal era at Arkansas starts tonight no matter who wins . If he is a total flop this season I will come back here and let yall give me a public flogging but my expectation's are a top 5 seed in the tournament and let the chips fall where they may .
For all intents and purposes. Just sayin
 
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Good for Arkansas! I don't hate Cal, it ended badly for us but I'll cheer for Cal beating Kansas, UNC, Duke, and UConn 10/10 times. 😀
 
I have been UK basketball since Cotton Nash. The Runts broke my heart, I was involved in the program in the transition between Coach Rupp and Joe B. I am still best buds with a number of the Super Kittens. One of my best moments was beating Indiana in Dayton in 1975 and the national championship in 1978. Besides the Runts another heartbreak was Pitino leaving. If he had stayed in Camelot we would have passedUCLA. With all of those great moments good and bad, one of the best moments was when the former coach announced he was going to Arkansas. We now have our program back. We now have a coach who gets it and understands the mission. We have our program back with kids who want to win for UK. I could give a damn about what happens to the Arkansas coach or his players. I welcome those that played under that coach that actually care about UK. To the others I could care less as much as they didn’t care about us. They and their coach aren’t worth wasting my breath over.
Steve is that you?
 
Arkansas will be good this year and will win some big games. They’ll likely have more tourney success than we have the last 5 years. Calipari has something to prove now. And that’s fine . He can have his last hurrah.
I’m happy with the direction our program is headed because I believe we will be more successful in the long term. Coach Pope isn’t building a single team…he’s rebuilding a program.
So good luck and enjoy Hog fans.
To paraphrase he great Al McGuire… we had it before you, we’ll have it during you and we’ll have it after you (and Calipari) are long gone

Have a nice day
 
Your making a long term assumption that they will be bad based on little data, and are calling me out for it, when you are doing the same thing, just to make the opposite argument. And no, I have thought the whole time Arkansas will be good this year, they have the roster to be good for the coaching staff they have. We had fans on here acting like Kentucky won a damn championship for beating a D2 team, so you can’t say Arkansas beating a high major opponent is any less of an overreaction. I wanted cal gone for multiple seasons now, but this roster he has is built for him to be good this year.
Circumstances have forced him to compile a somewhat experienced roster for 24/25...this will be his apex year at arkansas; he will get steadily younger and worse from this point forward
 
Cal always dominates the pre-season. The issue is what comes after.
Botton line is Arkansas looks legit and Boogie Fland looks to be one of Cal's best recruits in recent memory. Probably Cal's best team in years and I see no scenario where they lose in the first round. I wish Cal and Arkansas well except when they play Kentucky. Hopefully we are better, but that's a tall task.
 
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Just a shot at Kentucky fans. Be prepared for a lot of them this year if Cal does well down there. We will be Satan incarnate.
Ummm.. well... All that hate on someone..is actually.. already..Satan Incarnate! So yeah... you in that boat 😜
 
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Speaking of this GIF I got a layered strawberry shortcake from Kroger than is normally like $15 for .32 cents the other day. They made a huge issue with the weight price lol. This reminded me how delicious it was.
 
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Arkansas won because they played a team that plays just like them. Both teams can't shoot, Arkansas shot 5-22 23% from 3, they will struggle against teams that are able to knock down the 3 ball.
My thought as well. Cal usually plays well vs. Self because thy play similar styles.
 
Some on here are gonna hate because they don’t want to admit it, but Arkansas is good. This is a good cal team, and they will be good all year. Now they may fizzle out early in the tourney, but Arkansas has all the pieces of good cal teams. Kentucky will be good also, and we have a style that is set up for future success. With all that being said, fland sure would have been nice to have here in Lexington, he is a baller.
They will be good but we all know they will follow the Cal pattern. Not show up against lesser teams. A couple great winning streaks. In the end they won’t win the SEC, flame out in the SECT, and lose second round or so.
 
Speaking of this GIF I got a layered strawberry shortcake from Kroger than is normally like $15 for .32 cents the other day. They made a huge issue with the weight price lol. This reminded me how delicious it was.
Oh, this isn't just any pie :)
 
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You are on the wrong message board if you are here in search of hogg validation. Lol
Validation of what, I know we’re good? Again, I didn’t start the thread, I didn’t seek anything, but if you’re going to say something like Kansas isn’t as good as UK-W, I think we owe to each other to hold each other accountable for such things.
 
I love Wilson as a player-he's fantastic. Been a fan for years too-so this isn't against him. Someone asked why I was not expecting him to be Cat and this is why. But I get it-if you are going to get $$$-might as well ask for it and take the most you can get in your 1 yr in CBB.

Basketball wise he's not selfish at all and does everything well. In fact prior to Cal's departure when Wilson was a lock to UK--I think I even mentioned Wilson was type of guy who Pitino would've loved in his time in Lexington. He can do so many things well as a 6'9 player. Can run your halfcourt offense through him passing wise and he can get a rebound/lead a break. He's a plus defender though. He gave AJ Dybantsa issues in Peach Jam Championship game this past Summer. Quick jumper/great rebounder. Just a winning player.

So don't mistake how he plays with his recruitment.
Yeah I am glad you posted this. @Dontworryboutit23 didn’t think he was worth the money but in the games I’ve seen he absolutely looks the part of a top 5 guy. So versatile. I could see being worried about his frame but I bet a summer in the gym will do him good. He’s got a frame to put some weight on.
 
They will be good but we all know they will follow the Cal pattern. Not show up against lesser teams. A couple great winning streaks. In the end they won’t win the SEC, flame out in the SECT, and lose second round or so.
They can for sure fizzle out and I wouldn’t be shocked at all. With cal having a little extra juice this year I think they will be good this year
 
Yeah I am glad you posted this. @Dontworryboutit23 didn’t think he was worth the money but in the games I’ve seen he absolutely looks the part of a top 5 guy. So versatile. I could see being worried about his frame but I bet a summer in the gym will do him good. He’s got a frame to put some weight on.
One million is a lot of money for a guy like Wilson, still want him here for sure, just think the price tag is to much
 
I think the point is, teams will pack their defense in and force Arkansas to beat them from the perimeter. This is why you need some 3 point shooters.
That's not what the original claim was though. The original claim was Arkansas would struggle against a team that shoots the 3 better than them. Which is irrelevant if Arkansas has a more efficient offense than the team that shoots better from 3.
 
One million is a lot of money for a guy like Wilson, still want him here for sure, just think the price tag is to much
The price tag might be too high, but it kind of depends on your budget though, right? To one program that might be easily manageable and to another (even Div. I program) it may be a budget killer. But in general I suspect they’ll be a number of better PF options from the portal after the season, and I wouldn’t want to blow my PF budget on a OAD kid. On the other hand, I think he would be great to pair with a top portal PF (since UK won’t have any returning PF) if you can afford him.
 
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