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John Gruden out as Raiders coach

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It’s not like he made a one off comment on how bus trying to be funny. He put derogatory language in a professional email. He should be fired for the stupidity of doing that.
easy for you to say sitting behind a keyboard. What if some people started looking into your past and nitpicked every single thing you've ever said in your life to find something to Cancel You from your job and your life?

I guess you're probably a Twitter fan too.
 
easy for you to say sitting behind a keyboard. What if some people started looking into your past and nitpicked every single thing you've ever said in your life to find something to Cancel You from your job and your life?

I guess you're probably a Twitter fan too.
They can search every work email I’ve ever sent and there wouldn’t be anything hateful or derogatory in there.
 
Apparently was sending nude cheerleader pics as well, over his WORK email. This man is a special kind of stupid.
 
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i didn’t see that to be honest but my bigger point is that this is all a charade to pander to a woke crowd. The NFL has zero actual integrity when it comes to character and fitness.
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i didn’t see that to be honest but my bigger point is that this is all a charade to pander to a woke crowd. The NFL has zero actual integrity when it comes to character and fitness.
Your last sentence is spot on.

That said, Gruden is an idiot and deserves to be fired or "forced to resign".

I'm no fan of the woke crowd, but I don't think this has anything to do with pandering to them. There were many emails over the course of 6 or 7 years, not just a single mistake. It shows his true character which is important for a public figure.

Jimmy the Greek was fired in the 80s for similar nasty comments before "woke" was even a thing. Gruden would have been gone for this in any era post-1975 IMO.
 
I love how they say it's a "pattern" over seven years...

Seven years, and they're got a handful of emails? Some pattern.

I send and receive 100+ emails a day. Seven years would be 182,000 emails, and I'm sure Gruden sends more than I do.

That "pattern" also ended years ago.

Either way... his connection to the NFL is over forever. If I was UL, I'd offer him everything plus the kitchen sink.
 
Come on. The racist, misogynistic, homophobic Trumpers who yell “Woke, cancel culture, etc “ every time one of their heroes gets caught with their pants down really gets old. This is a guy with a written history, not one or two instances, of language not condoned in any corporate setting. Who‘s dumb enough to put anything like this in writing?

Can you get your head out of Biden's lap so we can understand what you are saying?
 
i didn’t see that to be honest but my bigger point is that this is all a charade to pander to a woke crowd. The NFL has zero actual integrity when it comes to character and fitness.

I don’t think it has much to do with woke crowd. He literally made racist comments about a NFLPA executive and survived. He resigned today after it came out he was passing pornography, insulting women refs, and calling the commissioner a slur (on top of the rest).

There’s not a job out there where anyone survives that string of bad decisions. Woke crowd or not.
 
I don’t think it has much to do with woke crowd. He literally made racist comments about a NFLPA executive and survived. He resigned today after it came out he was passing pornography, insulting women refs, and calling the commissioner a slur (on top of the rest).

There’s not a job out there where anyone survives that string of bad decisions. Woke crowd or not.
And it probably didn’t help he roasted the commissioner of the NFL as well. Reports were the league was pressuring the raiders to fire him. A good rule of thumb is don’t piss off the guy who either directly or indirectly signs your paychecks.
 
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I don’t think it has much to do with woke crowd. He literally made racist comments about a NFLPA executive and survived. He resigned today after it came out he was passing pornography, insulting women refs, and calling the commissioner a slur (on top of the rest).

There’s not a job out there where anyone survives that string of bad decisions. Woke crowd or not.
This. Not everything is the woke crowd or Antifa's fault. Some people are just shitty, get exposed for said shittiness, and lose their jobs. Happens all the time.
 
Here is the one thing about this that stinks to high heaven for me. Companies have had software looking for key words in emails since well before 2011 that would get people fired. My boss got a call from HR about me around 2011 for something I put in an IM. My house got broken into and one of the things stolen was a gun. She was asking me what got stolen and I listed that among everything else. They never looked at context, just that the IM had the word gun in it. I got called out within 24 hours of sending that IM (nothing was done because once she explained context it was dismissed) I don't believe for a second that they didn't have the same software. If you sit on something for 10 years, you have an agenda. I'm not sure what there's was but they had one.
 
Some of y'all are so ignorant it's pitiful. This ain't Republican vs Democrat or Woke vs umm "fake patriots" this is right vs wrong.
It wasn't an isolated incident. It shows who someone really is inside. Sadly, a man I loved for getting my Bucs their first Super Bowl title, is a POS. Being racist isn't cool, being homophobic isn't cool, nore is treating women like sh*t. I'm not woke, I just have a mixed daughter, gay loved ones and another daughter I don't want being treated like ass from some man. Welcome to America those bitching
 

Time to delete some emails. Lol

I dislike Gruden as a coach after the BS with Bowden (among other things) but it's pretty disgusting how thrilled people are with him being brought down as the Raiders coach. I know theyre vultures that love a story and clicks, but it still makes me sick

Gruden's an ask. No question. If they didn't know that before someone illegally obtained his emails, they just didn't want to know.
 
I dislike Gruden as a coach after the BS with Bowden (among other things) but it's pretty disgusting how thrilled people are with him being brought down as the Raiders coach. I know theyre vultures that love a story and clicks, but it still makes me sick

Gruden's an ask. No question. If they didn't know that before someone illegally obtained his emails, they just didn't want to know.
The emails weren't illegally obtained. It is part of the NFL's investigation into the Washington Football Team. The NFL is the one that acquired and released the emails.
 
Here is the one thing about this that stinks to high heaven for me. Companies have had software looking for key words in emails since well before 2011 that would get people fired. My boss got a call from HR about me around 2011 for something I put in an IM. My house got broken into and one of the things stolen was a gun. She was asking me what got stolen and I listed that among everything else. They never looked at context, just that the IM had the word gun in it. I got called out within 24 hours of sending that IM (nothing was done because once she explained context it was dismissed) I don't believe for a second that they didn't have the same software. If you sit on something for 10 years, you have an agenda. I'm not sure what there's was but they had one.
Yep. I fired a guy a couple of years ago for being blatantly racist and homophobic on his work IM chatting with one of his buddies outside the company. We found out about it because the company software caught the racial slurs. We can't have people saying crap like that using company resources while representing the company.

That said, why he was exposed is not really the point. He did it and deserves what he gets.
 
Yep. I fired a guy a couple of years ago for being blatantly racist and homophobic on his work IM chatting with one of his buddies outside the company. We found out about it because the company software caught the racial slurs. We can't have people saying crap like that using company resources while representing the company.

That said, why he was exposed is not really the point. He did it and deserves what he gets.
I get it and I'm not defending John Gruden. My problem is that I'm sure they knew of it within seconds if not a day and it comes out 10 years later.
 
Here is the one thing about this that stinks to high heaven for me. Companies have had software looking for key words in emails since well before 2011 that would get people fired. My boss got a call from HR about me around 2011 for something I put in an IM. My house got broken into and one of the things stolen was a gun. She was asking me what got stolen and I listed that among everything else. They never looked at context, just that the IM had the word gun in it. I got called out within 24 hours of sending that IM (nothing was done because once she explained context it was dismissed) I don't believe for a second that they didn't have the same software. If you sit on something for 10 years, you have an agenda. I'm not sure what there's was but they had one.

Reading the article it looks like this all came from the NFL ongoing investigating Washington’s issues. They weren’t targeting Gruden. I mean, it sorta begs the question what other dirt the NFL now has it’s hands on.
 
There’s not a job out there where anyone survives that string of bad decisions. Woke crowd or not.

Lol. Only if someone with a lot of money and power really wants you gone. There's so many with the same "string of bad decisions" in DC, NY and Cali and everyone's quiet as a church mouse about the ones that are buttering their bread
 
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