Is Cade Cunningham Back On The Table? OSU Given Post-Season Ban

[TheThack]

But the other side of the coin, is what Cade thinks of this roster? I still don't believe it was solely his brother that made him pick UK.. so was it that HE thought this roster didn't give him enough?

I mean, I can't imagine Askew was excited for Cade. I'll trust your word, but that seems crazy to me.. to be one of the best basketball players in the nation (Askew) to be excited about one of only like 3 PG's better than him, ALSO going to Kentucky.

But again, I'm behind in recruiting.. I just can't keep up like you guys can, so maybe I missed something.

Perhaps they were just being politically correct but...

Askew is the No. 1 point guard in the 2021 class but will make a decision after the high school season on whether he’ll reclassify to 2020. Many in recruiting circles expect Askew to ultimately make that move, and he made his commitment to Kentucky knowing full well that the Wildcats could still land Cunningham in this recruiting cycle.

In interviews with the Herald-Leader a few days ago, both Askew and his father shared Daniels’ assessment of the situation: the two point guards would play well together on the same team.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/college/kentucky-sports/uk-recruiting/article236356903.html​

Seriously, I do not believe it has any potential to happen but I would love it if it did. I have just had a feeling about Cade for nearly two years.

 

[JFCats22]

 

[FrankUnderwood]

What G league? Is there going to be one this year?

Yes. A small handful of top recruits “committed” to the g league over the last 6 weeks or so (in the midst of the “coViD cRisIS”.

 

[bigblue1971]

I don't think Cal ever tells any recruit that if they come he will stop recruiting that position. Maybe Mintz wasn't promised anything. Does anyone think that the big trip that Cal went on to see Cunningham right before he committed may have had talk of a decommit from Okla.St if this happened?

 

[IUfanBorden]

Ben Simmons did okay going to LSU.

Most of these talented kids like Edwards, Simmons, McDaniels, Cunningham etc… are going to be lottery picks anyway. It seems like they think they are good enough to win without anyone's help at a lower tiered school. It rarely works out.

But they all have their eyes on the NBA, college basketball is not a big deal to them and since it's not a big deal, why on earth would they come to UK where they will have to actually work hard in practice?

Tom Crean and whoever the coaches at OSU and Washington are, aren't pushing these players like Cal does, nah, Edwards went to UGA and probably went with about 50% effort in practice. There was no way in hell that Tom Crean was going to make him go any harder than that. But you know what? Edwards is probably going #2 in the draft. Cade Cunningham will be a top 5 pick as well and it won't matter where he goes to college.

I absolutely LOATHE Tom Crean....BUT-----that dudes practices are INSANE. I mean, like ****in' boot camp insane. 100%, balls to the walls. And very, very detailed...Also, JFC I cannot believe I am defending this dude...But he did a pretty good job developing kids at Indiana. Most notably, Victor Oladipo and Anunoby. I highly doubt Edwards went 50% during practice.

 

[Bigblueamdyou]

Really? I truly don't want him, and I ain't lyin

Yeah you are

 

[Bill Withers]

Yeah you are

You have proof? A source? If not, hush. You made a stupid and untenable comment. Let it go.

 

[drcats2013]

Cal wouldn’t do that to Mintz. Not going to happen. Don’t even waste your time entertaining the possibility lol

 

[villefan76]

 

[JwUKFan11]

Cal wouldn’t do that to Mintz. Not going to happen. Don’t even waste your time entertaining the possibility lol

Cal should do what’s best for the team. And that would be bring in Cade. There would be minutes for Mintz at the backup point as well as the 2.

 

[bucsrule8872]

If I’m Cal, I take him if he wants to come.

Askew was okay with Cunningham coming when he signed, it seems.

Mintz would be the only guy that would have room to gripe.

But I think Mintz would be fine backing up Cunningham and Clarke at the 1 and 2. He could still get starter type minutes as 6th man.

Let Askew wait until 2021-22 for his chance.

That team would be loaded and the length would be incredible.

Starters

G Cunningham(6’6)
G Clarke(6’7)
G Boston(6’7)
F Brooks(6’8)
F Sarr(7’0)

Bench

G Mintz(6’2)- 6th man
G Askew(6’3)
G Allen(6’6)
F Fletcher(6’6)
F Ware(6’9)
F Jackson(6’10)

And if shooting is an issue, play four guards with Mintz instead of Brooks in the starting five. Still have plenty of size for college ball.

 

[TheThack]

Cal wouldn’t do that to Mintz. Not going to happen. Don’t even waste your time entertaining the possibility lol

What evidence is there that Cal would not recruit the best player he can get? Look at the 2015 team. Returning players going into that season included 7 foot junior WCS, 7 foot sophomore Dakari Johnson, 6'9 sophomore Marques Lee, 6'9 sophomore Derek Willis, and 6'8 junior Alex Poythress. Yet he brings in 6'11 freshman Karl Towns and 6'10 freshman Trey Lyles. Should he have walked away from KAT or Lyles due to his loyalty to WCS, Dakari, Lee, Willis and Poythress? I think recruiting those two freshman worked out fairly well.

 

[Smashcat]

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G League here I come.

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

Please tell Cal.

That’s my opinion dog! Do I have to go tell Cal that I think Christina Hendricks is hot?

 

[UKhoopCat]

That’s my opinion dog! Do I have to go tell Cal that I think Christina Hendricks is hot?

You certainly do not.

 

[Bill Withers]

That’s my opinion dog! Do I have to go tell Cal that I think Christina Hendricks is hot?

Paging @Son_Of_Saul

 

[kl40504]

What evidence is there that Cal would not recruit the best player he can get? Look at the 2015 team. Returning players going into that season included 7 foot junior WCS, 7 foot sophomore Dakari Johnson, 6'9 sophomore Marques Lee, 6'9 sophomore Derek Willis, and 6'8 junior Alex Poythress. Yet he brings in 6'11 freshman Karl Towns and 6'10 freshman Trey Lyles. Should he have walked away from KAT or Lyles due to his loyalty to WCS, Dakari, Lee, Willis and Poythress? I think recruiting those two freshman worked out fairly well.

No championship.

 

[Fox2monk]

No championship.

I’ll take 38-0 with a chance everytime. Should have won the game but shit happens.

 

[kyjeff1]

I absolutely LOATHE Tom Crean....BUT-----that dudes practices are INSANE. I mean, like ****in' boot camp insane. 100%, balls to the walls. And very, very detailed...Also, JFC I cannot believe I am defending this dude...But he did a pretty good job developing kids at Indiana. Most notably, Victor Oladipo and Anunoby. I highly doubt Edwards went 50% during practice.

If what you say is true, he's doing it wrong. If you work your guys that hard, your results should be better.

 

[caneintally]

LOL at talking about something that has zero chance of happening . And I am talking Cal even entertaining the idea of contacting Cade. Bridge has been burned. Either he stays at OK st or goes pro in some way. Bet it is the later.

Also to say that adding Cade now is for the best for the team completely is wrong and shows people don't understand the nuance of team building . It isn't about just having talent. It is about talent with chemistry and make up. Why do you think Cal ended up not wanting Deandre Williams ? We had plenty of guys like him and they CHOSE UK and deserve a chance. Our team is set .Most talented one we have had since 2015.

 

[jrpross]

What evidence is there that Cal would not recruit the best player he can get? Look at the 2015 team. Returning players going into that season included 7 foot junior WCS, 7 foot sophomore Dakari Johnson, 6'9 sophomore Marques Lee, 6'9 sophomore Derek Willis, and 6'8 junior Alex Poythress. Yet he brings in 6'11 freshman Karl Towns and 6'10 freshman Trey Lyles. Should he have walked away from KAT or Lyles due to his loyalty to WCS, Dakari, Lee, Willis and Poythress? I think recruiting those two freshman worked out fairly well.

I agree honestly. Cal isn’t sentimental. If he’s got someone signed but sees someone better, he usually tries to get both.

 

[kyjeff1]

If CC wants to come to UK, Cal should take him, but the first thing he would need to do before entertaining the thought of bringing CC on, is have a sit down with his current players to discuss a plan and what everyone's role would be.
Cal handles these situations better than anyone, so I'm sure he will handle things with any player that gets bent over adding CC.

 

[ukpence]

No matter how this turns out, the narrative is positive for us. If he gets out of his letter of intent, then we have a chance to add another great player to next year's team. If he stays at Oklahoma St., then he has to accept missing out on being a competitive team and the media exposure the tournament would bring him. This feels like poetic justice if you're a UK fan.

 

[FFWhite]

Cunningham is a beast. He is a facilitator who makes getting shots easier for Boston and Clarke. Don't think it happens but Cal would take him in a heartbeat.

 

[kyjeff1]

LOL at talking about something that has zero chance of happening . And I am talking Cal even entertaining the idea of contacting Cade. Bridge has been burned. Either he stays at OK st or goes pro in some way. Bet it is the later.

Also to say that adding Cade now is for the best for the team completely is wrong and shows people don't understand the nuance of team building . It isn't about just having talent. It is about talent with chemistry and make up. Why do you think Cal ended up not wanting Deandre Williams ? We had plenty of guys like him and they CHOSE UK and deserve a chance. Our team is set .Most talented one we have had since 2015.

See, here's your problem. You do this all the time, you talk down to others and make statements as if you're in Cal's inner circle and more times than not, you're wrong. Maybe you'll learn to post opinions instead of pretending your beliefs are facts.

Cade didn’t burn a bridge, he wanted to come to UK, but his desire to play on a team that his brother was an assistant coach for, is understandable. He didn't burn Cal, he didn't lie to him and he didn't make Cal or UK look bad in the process.

Also, I'd say the chances of CC coming to UK are better than zero and you knew that when you posted it, but you chose to go overboard to make your point.

Lastly, you don't know why Cal didn’t want Deandre Williams, you make statements like you know, but you don't. There are a ton of possible reasons for pulling out of a recruitment and since Cal can't talk about it, all we can do is guess. But the rest of us don't act like we know for a fact why. If you think chemistry would be a problem because there is too much talent, then you must have missed 2014 and 2015.

 

[germuk]

Aren’t wiseman and Edwards predicted top 3-6 in the draft? Both will have a net worth of at least $30 million in like 2 months.

I mentioned Edwards's stock being about the same, but he could have had elevated exposure here. Wiseman was mentioned a consensus top 2-3 pick until his suspension and now is being mocked between the 5-7 range in a lot of mock drafts. If he could have played the entire season it's not unreasonable to think that he would still be projected anywhere between 1 and 3 because he looked incredible when he played. He would have been able to do that at Kentucky.

 

[TheThack]

No championship.

Your point?

LOL at talking about something that has zero chance of happening . And I am talking Cal even entertaining the idea of contacting Cade. Bridge has been burned. Either he stays at OK st or goes pro in some way. Bet it is the later.

Also to say that adding Cade now is for the best for the team completely is wrong and shows people don't understand the nuance of team building . It isn't about just having talent. It is about talent with chemistry and make up. Why do you think Cal ended up not wanting Deandre Williams ? We had plenty of guys like him and they CHOSE UK and deserve a chance. Our team is set .Most talented one we have had since 2015.

Cane, If you chose to believe Cal would not welcome Cade to the team if he asked for a release from OK State and expressed interest in UK that is all well and good, you are entitled to that opinion and we can agree to disagree. But I assure you my understanding of the nuance of team building is every bit as good as yours, and given my years of experience over you, likely more informed.

As President Reagan said to candidate Mondale in a 1984 debate, I am not going to exploit your youth and inexperience. However, please keep your demeaning characterizations of those who disagree with your position to yourself. The advantage to age and experience is that if you live long enough you experience having made bold brash comments (such as the many you have made on this board in the past) that all to often come back to bite you in the but. After losing a few chunks of their a$$ one usually learns the wisdom of refrain, unless they are particularly stubborn. Don't be that guy.

 

[BaronReborn84]

Its G-League now for Cade IMO

 

[Bigblueamdyou]

You have proof? A source? If not, hush. You made a stupid and untenable comment. Let it go.

No I’m stating facts,let’s see how you act if he came in and lead us to national title

 

[JFCats22]

See, here's your problem. You do this all the time, you talk down to others and make statements as if you're in Cal's inner circle and more times than not, you're wrong. Maybe you'll learn to post opinions instead of pretending your beliefs are facts.

Cade didn’t burn a bridge, he wanted to come to UK, but his desire to play on a team that his brother was an assistant coach for, is understandable. He didn't burn Cal, he didn't lie to him and he didn't make Cal or UK look bad in the process.

Also, I'd say the chances of CC coming to UK are better than zero and you knew that when you posted it, but you chose to go overboard to make your point.

Lastly, you don't know why Cal didn’t want Deandre Williams, you make statements like you know, but you don't. There are a ton of possible reasons for pulling out of a recruitment and since Cal can't talk about it, all we can do is guess. But the rest of us don't act like we know for a fact why. If you think chemistry would be a problem because there is too much talent, then you must have missed 2014 and 2015.

He’s the worst, the absolute worst.

 

[Wildcats1st]

If CC wants to come to UK, Cal should take him, but the first thing he would need to do before entertaining the thought of bringing CC on, is have a sit down with his current players to discuss a plan and what everyone's role would be.
Cal handles these situations better than anyone, so I'm sure he will handle things with any player that gets bent over adding CC.

No you don’t sit down and do anything. You take him and let everyone fight it out for minutes. This isn’t some 12 year old select league. If someone gets upset then there’s the door. You either go all in for Cade or you don’t.

 

[Wildcats1st]

LOL at talking about something that has zero chance of happening . And I am talking Cal even entertaining the idea of contacting Cade. Bridge has been burned. Either he stays at OK st or goes pro in some way. Bet it is the later.

Also to say that adding Cade now is for the best for the team completely is wrong and shows people don't understand the nuance of team building . It isn't about just having talent. It is about talent with chemistry and make up. Why do you think Cal ended up not wanting Deandre Williams ? We had plenty of guys like him and they CHOSE UK and deserve a chance. Our team is set .Most talented one we have had since 2015.

Is the team even together yet??? No! Your take is terrible. Cal should initiate contact with cade if he wants out and cal should do everything he can to get him. This team building angle is a load of garbage especially since the team hasn’t started anything significant. I can’t believe there is even any discussion on this. You want to win a title or make mintz happy? These are all one year guys take the best.

 

[4UK4Life]

See, here's your problem. You do this all the time, you talk down to others and make statements as if you're in Cal's inner circle and more times than not, you're wrong. Maybe you'll learn to post opinions instead of pretending your beliefs are facts.

Cade didn’t burn a bridge, he wanted to come to UK, but his desire to play on a team that his brother was an assistant coach for, is understandable. He didn't burn Cal, he didn't lie to him and he didn't make Cal or UK look bad in the process.

Also, I'd say the chances of CC coming to UK are better than zero and you knew that when you posted it, but you chose to go overboard to make your point.

Lastly, you don't know why Cal didn’t want Deandre Williams, you make statements like you know, but you don't. There are a ton of possible reasons for pulling out of a recruitment and since Cal can't talk about it, all we can do is guess. But the rest of us don't act like we know for a fact why. If you think chemistry would be a problem because there is too much talent, then you must have missed 2014 and 2015.

i was going to reply but you beat me to it. Cane seems like an ok guy but I think he gets a little over excited at times wanting to be like an insider and reads what the majority says then puts it in his own words as a done deal. Nobody really pays a lot of attention to it so getting it wrong isn’t an issue. He just moves on to the next

 

[morgousky]

Cane is a troll. He’s always been a good troll and no one seems to figure him out.

On Cade, this is a no brainer. With that lineup it’s a final four team from day one.

Anyone remember 2011? Terrence Jones ring a bell? Washington? We do not even have a championship with Cal without a kid flipping on his original commitment. I’d think about that for a second.

 

[Untouchables22]

Is the team even together yet??? No! Your take is terrible. Cal should initiate contact with cade if he wants out and cal should do everything he can to get him. This team building angle is a load of garbage especially since the team hasn’t started anything significant. I can’t believe there is even any discussion on this. You want to win a title or make mintz happy? These are all one year guys take the best.

This is exactly right....the team hasn’t had a single organized practice yet so adding Cade wouldn’t really rock the boat. The primary reason Cal refuses to promise anything during recruiting is for this very reason. The million dollar question is IF the Cunningham’s asked for anything the first time around in regards to the brother being taken care of. Because if you ask for a hand out Cal has a track record of cutting bait and never looking back.

 

[anon_9qtxg60vqzy0y]

LOL at talking about something that has zero chance of happening . And I am talking Cal even entertaining the idea of contacting Cade. Bridge has been burned. Either he stays at OK st or goes pro in some way. Bet it is the later.

Also to say that adding Cade now is for the best for the team completely is wrong and shows people don't understand the nuance of team building . It isn't about just having talent. It is about talent with chemistry and make up. Why do you think Cal ended up not wanting Deandre Williams ? We had plenty of guys like him and they CHOSE UK and deserve a chance. Our team is set .Most talented one we have had since 2015.

I don’t suppose Chuck Daly was aware of your “nuance of team building” concept,

 

[Supafuzz75]

I absolutely LOATHE Tom Crean....BUT-----that dudes practices are INSANE. I mean, like ****in' boot camp insane. 100%, balls to the walls. And very, very detailed...Also, JFC I cannot believe I am defending this dude...But he did a pretty good job developing kids at Indiana. Most notably, Victor Oladipo and Anunoby. I highly doubt Edwards went 50% during practice.

I probably hate him more than you.. But dude isn't that bad of a coach... If he hadn't went to IU,, wouldn't hate him at all..

 

[Smashcat]

I don’t see it.

 

[bradscats]

This is exactly right....the team hasn’t had a single organized practice yet so adding Cade wouldn’t really rock the boat. The primary reason Cal refuses to promise anything during recruiting is for this very reason. The million dollar question is IF the Cunningham’s asked for anything the first time around in regards to the brother being taken care of. Because if you ask for a hand out Cal has a track record of cutting bait and never looking back.

The fact he was recruiting him until the very end the first time around makes me think there was nothing there Cal was afraid of.

 

[Bill Withers]

No I’m stating facts,let’s see how you act if he came in and lead us to national title

No that's not a fact. How can any of what you've typed be a fact? You need to look up the definition of "fact". It can't be applied in this case. Damn, man. Do better.