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I'm Back: Insight and Background on Quickley Visit and other notes...

I'm closest to Michigan sources on this one... They think Oregon or Duke, with Michigan 3rd.

I find it hard to believe UK is lower than 3rd currently however.



So does everyone associated with the UK program. IMO, Jamal Murray and his family will play a big role in this recruitment before all is said and done.
 
If Duke lands Barrett, then Zion becomes a must have. The 2018 class needs to be centered around one of the three stud wings: Reddish, Barrett, and Williamson. Since Duke already secured a commitment from Reddish we are in a less favorable spot.
 
I haven't heard anything other than the things you already know...

Duke and Kansas slander UK.

Self and Cal don't care for each other, Cal liked Coach K at one point.

The dirty work is done by the assistants (Howard and Capel).

Schools like UCLA, Arizona, Oregon, and some of the other big ones, won't slander UK.

You know why?

I'm gonna go out in a limb and say Nike. BUT so is duke.
 
Still optimistic. I think we get:

Quickley
Grimes or Johnson
Barrett or Williamson
Bol or Shittu

I'm still a little worried about Adidas with Williamson.
Agreed. Adidas is a much bigger influence in his recruitment than people realize. Zion has a relationship with the Adidas people. Nothing illegal or shady but it has influence. Feels like a Wiggins situation but I hope I'm wrong.
 
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Schools like UCLA, Arizona, Oregon, and some of the other big ones, won't slander UK.

You know why?

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Recruits have gone on record saying they've heard assistant coaches lie about Kentucky. It's pretty common knowledge that Capel and Jerrance Howard have done this, and you can be certain they don't do this without direction.

If this is true, you should by definition be able to link to articles where recruits say this. That's what "gone on record" means.
 
As I've said, Cal has Been using the same approach that he used in 2009. He was able to do it because he was seen as "the guy" for OAD top 5 born ready type of players. He could afford to wait. Cal never thought he'd slide there, but he has.

He's got to change strategy a bit. There are too many options for those recruits now.

For the 1,000th time. Staying our traditional route and having top classes without the top crop of the class will do U.K. No good if we want a title.
 
Check the thread I posted and go from there. Plenty of posters here much more in the know than me who can provide links.
 
Maybe Cal is starting to really impress on these recruits that UK is NOT for everyone.. We sure are losing a lot of them..I wish he would never utter those words again.
 
Barrett is going to Duke. And don't be surprised if Quickley goes to Kansas with Zion. Remember a lot folks thought Andrew Wiggins was going to Kentucky.He went to the adidas school.Quickley AAU team is adidas.
Butters glad to have you back, not. Thanks for the positive input. We can always depend on you to cheer RR up.
 
I haven't heard anything other than the things you already know...

Duke and Kansas slander UK.

Self and Cal don't care for each other, Cal liked Coach K at one point.

The dirty work is done by the assistants (Howard and Capel).

Schools like UCLA, Arizona, Oregon, and some of the other big ones, won't slander UK.

You know why?

Not buying that Kansas negatively recruits. Also, I don't think Howard is the recruiter for Quickly or Zion. Believe Roberts or Townsend is.
 
Not buying that Kansas negatively recruits. Also, I don't think Howard is the recruiter for Quickly or Zion. Believe Roberts or Townsend is.

Why would a coach (CoachX11) with absolutely no ties to UK say that?

The denial is so deep in you that you couldn't see the sun because your head is too far buried up into your own ass.
Nooneputsbabyinthecorner: "the Lawsons are saints".
 
Why would a coach (CoachX11) with absolutely no ties to UK say that?

The denial is so deep in you that you couldn't see the sun because your head is too far buried up into your own ass.
Nooneputsbabyinthecorner: "the Lawsons are saints".
This . KU fans crack me up. The negative recruiting has hurt them as their recruiting the last few years has fallen off of what it was and they have become transfer U . They get good transfers but you rarely if ever get elite ones as they are in the pros before they could transfer. We all know what KU will do this year - Win the big 12 and lose in the 2nd round of the tourney to a Dayton , Depaul , Western Michigan type school . It is what they do most of the time.
 
Why would a coach (CoachX11) with absolutely no ties to UK say that?

The denial is so deep in you that you couldn't see the sun because your head is too far buried up into your own ass.
Nooneputsbabyinthecorner: "the Lawsons are saints".

I don't think KU needs to negatively recruit. We're not some mid-major program.
 
I can respect that. But it is what it is. No opinion theres no AD, wall, cousins, towns etc on this team yet coming into season. Now maybe they prove themselves as a 1st round draft pick during season. But that remains to be seen. Diallo has to prove he can make a jump shot and he's our highest rank recruit. Knox is more of stretch 4 that's going to play the 3 he's inconsistent as a shooter and his handle is shakey and he's extremely right handed. Jarred biggest ? Is can he shoot.

"Our" highest ranked recruit. [laughing]
 
Cal doesn't need to negatively recruit either but he does. They all do. There's a lot of money on the line for everyone involved. No matter what school you root for you can't be naive enough to believe otherwise.
 
Eh, it's not public message board appropriate, but I'll say this...

Never assume anything in recruiting.

So someone in his circle felt put off that UK assumed they had his commitment and didn't prioritize him, etc?
 
Cal doesn't need to negatively recruit either but he does. They all do. There's a lot of money on the line for everyone involved. No matter what school you root for you can't be naive enough to believe otherwise.

Except every kid comes out and says UK doesn't negatively recruit. Thanks for admitting your own guilt, though. Odd how recruiting picked up when filthy Capel joined the staff and allowed K to get his hands dirty without having any culpability.
 
Except every kid comes out and says UK doesn't negatively recruit. Thanks for admitting your own guilt, though. Odd how recruiting picked up when filthy Capel joined the staff and allowed K to get his hands dirty without having any culpability.

Yea , I don't know what to tell you. Calipari does it too. Parents of players have shared it.
 
Odd how recruiting picked up when filthy Capel joined the staff and allowed K to get his hands dirty without having any culpability.
By that logic, is it also odd that people caught up to uk's recruiting efforts once Antigua left Cal's staff and now Cal (a) has to get his hands a little dirtier or (b) has people doing the dirty work that just aren't as good at it as OA?
 
By that logic, is it also odd that people caught up to uk's recruiting efforts once Antigua left Cal's staff and now Cal (a) has to get his hands a little dirtier or (b) has people doing the dirty work that just aren't as good at it as OA?

If you want to debate logic, include the entire premise and try again. Wonder why you didn't quote the entire post?
 
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