I think we can beat some good teams. The question is can we or will we?
If we bring this effort for the remainder of the season
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Offense is going to have to get a hell of a lot better
A lot depends on the development of Brock and the offense.
No we won't. Ole Miss, UT and Texas have way better offenses than UGA.
Doubtful, it takes a lot of energy to play defense like last night and you still have to score. You don’t win many games scoring 17 points per.
As long as we have a coach who kicks a fg on 3rd down on the opponents 15 yard line with 9 seconds on the clock we ain’t winning anything that matters. Most unbelievably soft, afraid, weak minded coaching I’ve ever witnessed last night.
I think it's more of a product the HC has. zero faith in the offense and OC.
Stoops's role model is coach Klein from the Water Boy.
Just my personal opinion, but that is one of the biggest pussy coaching moves I’ve ever seen in my 50 years of life.
It was obvious to everyone that if we punted we were never getting the ball back. Not just UK fans but neutral national analysts and friends of mine that are UT fans or AU fans or bama fans texted me the same thing. It was a dumb decision.
Not under stoops clunkers still to come 12 years of this crap is enough
We probably got Georgias C game . They most likely had one eye on Alabama next week . Saying that will probably piss some people off but it’s the truth.
Imagine trying to keep your mental focus and intensity as a defensive player while knowing the offense is pretty much incapable of scoring a touchdown.
They played as vanilla as they possibly could. Don’t think they wanted to show Bama anything. It almost cost them. As to the OP’s post, the defense played out of their minds. But we play some better offenses than UGA down the road. Our offense isn’t gonna get it done. I’d like to see if there’s something better at the QB position on the bench. Vandagriff is tough, but that’s about all i see going for him. I do think we can get 6 wins but that’s about it. Let’s hope Ferentz steps down after the season at Iowa.
We needed a play that would stop the clock. Kinda risky but possible to do with 9 seconds left. A quick shot to the end zone or something to the sideline where they could step out if there was no lane to the end zone. We didn’t have any more TO’s. It was the uber conservative call in a game where every point mattered, but I agree they should have tried something with 9 seconds left.
Effort was good to great.
In game coaching is bad. At home against #1 on your side of the 50 with a 4th and 8. You have to 1 try to draw them off sides, 2 have that play and confidence to run a play to get 9 yards to keep drive alive. Or 3 you have a guy that openly you have said has hit for 65 yards in practice and can probably hit from 70. Punting (and most that know football would not be an option there with 3 minutes on the clock). Just at that time gave Kirby the game, Kirby was over there thinking this guys is an idiot. Took 100% of the pressure off the dogs. Their punter easily hitting over 50 yards a punt and you have the playbook in front of you. Stoops thought for sure that Kirby was going to run the ball on that 4th and 5 or 6 (whatever it was deep on his side of the ball). Play action, easy first down. Lol
Everyone knew it was coming, not White or Stoops evidently. Same old prevent defense, make sure they do not get past you. All Kirby did was a clear out and easy pitch and catch. Wait till Kiffen or Sark gets ahold of Stoops this year not to mention the Orange idiot in Knoxville. That will be 3 more losses like SC loss.
I have no confidence in Stoops ever trying to win a game in 2024. Even Saban changed what he was doing to continue to win games, he went and go offense. Said you cannot win with just defense in 2020. Stoops will stay till he retires or he will if we are lucky get a chance (soon) to coach Iowa.
In game coaching is bad. At home against #1 on your side of the 50 with a 4th and 8. You have to 1 try to draw them off sides, 2 have that play and confidence to run a play to get 9 yards to keep drive alive. Or 3 you have a guy that openly you have said has hit for 65 yards in practice and can probably hit from 70. Punting (and most that know football would not be an option there with 3 minutes on the clock). Just at that time gave Kirby the game, Kirby was over there thinking this guys is an idiot. Took 100% of the pressure off the dogs. Their punter easily hitting over 50 yards a punt and you have the playbook in front of you. Stoops thought for sure that Kirby was going to run the ball on that 4th and 5 or 6 (whatever it was deep on his side of the ball). Play action, easy first down. Lol
Everyone knew it was coming, not White or Stoops evidently. Same old prevent defense, make sure they do not get past you. All Kirby did was a clear out and easy pitch and catch. Wait till Kiffen or Sark gets ahold of Stoops this year not to mention the Orange idiot in Knoxville. That will be 3 more losses like SC loss.
I have no confidence in Stoops ever trying to win a game in 2024. Even Saban changed what he was doing to continue to win games, he went and go offense. Said you cannot win with just defense in 2020. Stoops will stay till he retires or he will if we are lucky get a chance (soon) to coach Iowa.
After this weekend's performance, I see 4-8 instead of 2-10 or 3-9. Coaching ineptitude on the offensive side, as well as the baffling decision not to use the better punter (thus losing field position battles), will cause us to regress from prior years.
Really hope I'm wrong
Really hope I'm wrong
My only worry is how we'll hold up against UT and Ole Miss. UGA plays us straight up and that plays into our strengths where we can line up and go physical on physical. UT and Ole Miss dont allow you to do that and gear their attack on running plays when you are off balance or not set, and they try to fatigue you on top of that. And once they start scoring it causes the defense to deflate and lose energy and effort as well.
Brad White has been great against standard offenses but struggled (as many have) against he hurry up styles. I just havent seen any signs that will change yet and its not all his fault. When you play the way those two teams do its almost so gimmicky that it stretches the bounds of real football and there's not a lot a defense can do.
So I dont doubt our effort or our ability to play anybody straight up, but am worried about handling these two.
As a UT fan, I wouldn't call it a dumb decision, more of a safe decision. If it was 4th and 1 rather than 4th and 8, then yes, that would be a dumb, or maybe more appropriate, a chickensh*t decision.
I've always thought Stoops a way too conservative coach, but in that moment, I didn't think it was a bad decision. UGA's defense had been stingy all night, so the odds pf success were not good. UK's defense had been even better, so if UK could punt and pin them deep, as well as the UK defense was playing there was a strong chance that UGA would have to punt from deep in its territory and UK would get the ball back near midfield with well over 2 minutes remaining.
As far as his decision-making in the moment. Stoops is a very old school, conservative coach in-game, and it is likely in that moment he thought back to that decision early in the SC game to get out of his comfort zone and go for it on 4th and 1 from the UK 31 and how that backfired.
But in the end, it's a danged if you do, danged if you don't; no matter which decision he made, if you lose the game, you made the wrong decision.
Totally agree Soupbean.....
This team is built defensively to stop the run...and good luck to team that will try to hammer it down our throat. But spread us out and throw into our zone defense scheme.....we are not so tough to move the ball on. So Tenn, Texas and Ole Miss....way different way they attack. And I have low confidence that we can score enough to win those games. Not sure how Auburn and Vandy will turn out...those feel like the winnable games left in SEC schedule.
So while I love the effort.....I think UGA was sleepwalking a bit, I'd argue Kirby's gameplan was overly conservative for a reason and UK hung tough and as we run the ball.....we can shorten a game very quickly. But teams that can score 20 pts.....UK is going to struggle to literally score 3 TDs in a single game. That is where this team is rounding into for 2024.
It was great to see the effort we brought to the field on Saturday night. We had a chance to win vs the #1 team in the country. Going back 1 week the total lack of effort in a game we should have been able to win is even more frustrating. The UGA game showed the type of defense I though we could have ,going forward what do we bring to the table in terms of effort?
The offense is a work in progress but is not without tools. The offense needs to be able to pull its fair share of weight. It will probably never be a 50/50 split but 60/40 will win some games. &-5 is still on the table although 6-6 seems more likely
The offense is a work in progress but is not without tools. The offense needs to be able to pull its fair share of weight. It will probably never be a 50/50 split but 60/40 will win some games. &-5 is still on the table although 6-6 seems more likely
True. But Stoops is the one hiring these guys and then he forces them to play within his uber conservative system. He either hires bad OCs or guys that don't end up staying. He has never fully committed to having a great passing attack. There's a lot going wrong on the offensive side of the ball. OCs come and go and Stoops remains along with the offensive problems to one degree or another from year to year.
LOL, if you consider Florida, Auburn, and Louisville "good" teams. Hell if we somehow win 2 of those 3 I will be happy. If we got to 6/7 wins I will now consider it a win. Offense is just too one dimensional,,,,, again. Why we cannot have a consistent passing attack in todays game is pretty damn telling how we look at things. Relying on bench warmers from elite schools to carry us at QB is a bad way to plan for the future. Not to mention the O-Line has falling off of a cliff and absolutely ZERO production from the supposedly stout TE room. If we continue to be a run heavy focused team and just token passing attack, we will continue to be at the middle, or MEDIOCRE. Worst passing offense and play in the SEC, a damn shame. We suppose to be SEC, sure as hell doesn't look like a SEC offense to me. WKU's offense is more modern and better than UK's, yes they play in CUSA, but they also have a lot less to recruit from and still produce really great COLLEGE QB's and WR's.
The percentages were way better to go for it.
UGA had also figured things out by that point n the game on offense. Scored a field goal, then td, one 3 and out, and would have scored at end of game if they wanted to but they ran clock.
Kirby was never gonna run it 3 straight times like Marky mark wanted.
As you said, it is what it is. A judgement call
It doesn’t piss me off, but there’s no way of knowing it’s true. You can speculate all day.
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