Absolutely. But seeding does have a little to do with conf tournament champs. Right? Some say the seeds are determined before they conf tournament championships so there could be an argument, but not sure anyone can argue Cal doesn’t say stupid stuff quite often.
I would love to win this tournament, but....
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Hilarious that the OP just blatantly makes up complete BS and a ton of people fall for it without even thinking twice. If it’s on the Internet it must be true! Morons
He ACTUALLY said that the tournament this week is NOT the one he's concentrating on BUT the one in 2 weeks.
YOU are the one with the BS. Watch the UT post game PC. He does NOT value the SEC Tournament. He has stated that for the last few seasons. Heck, he said he just wanted to get back to his dog after losing last year.
My issue is the OP saying Cal will "not bother preparing for it". That is just an agenda driven lie.
Honestly , this year is different than most. We have hardly had any games with our entire lineup . If anything, Cal should look at this as a great opportunity to gain valuable experience with different combinations against teams on par with what we will see in the ncaa tournament.
Saying "It's not the one I'm concentrating on" is not the same as "I won't prepare for it." I do think the OP is slanting some things.
I say leave Cal home with his dogs since he hates the SECT so bad. We would have a better chance if he stayed home.
I mean what does this say to your players when you say it’s a meaningless tournament.
One of a growing list of reasons that he is not the right guy for KY basketball!
I mean what does this say to your players when you say it’s a meaningless tournament.
One of a growing list of reasons that he is not the right guy for KY basketball!
He’s been saying this same shit every year for 15 years, and every single year some of you bite on it and froth with blind rage.
Cal has won 6 of these tournaments. Pitino won 5. Tubby won 5. Eddie won 2. Hall won 1. Billy was drunk. UK has failed to reach the SEC semis 3 times in the last 15 years (2013, 2021, 2023). Cal is 8-2 in the semis, 6-2 in the title game, 10-2 in the quarterfinals and 0-1 on Thursday for a record of 24-7. Pretty solid record for someone who doesn’t care.
I understand the SECT run of 1992-99 was amazing to behold, but that was closer to an anomaly than the norm.
Cal has won 6 of these tournaments. Pitino won 5. Tubby won 5. Eddie won 2. Hall won 1. Billy was drunk. UK has failed to reach the SEC semis 3 times in the last 15 years (2013, 2021, 2023). Cal is 8-2 in the semis, 6-2 in the title game, 10-2 in the quarterfinals and 0-1 on Thursday for a record of 24-7. Pretty solid record for someone who doesn’t care.
I understand the SECT run of 1992-99 was amazing to behold, but that was closer to an anomaly than the norm.
if you are asking if the SECT means the same to me as the NCAAT, IT DOES NOT
if i were guessing then i would say the NCAAT also means much more to Cal and the players
with that said i want to win both and i would guess so does Cal and the players
really, where did Cal say he does not prepare for the SECT
he never twisted. he made them up
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Exactly
For a guy who "doesn't care about this tournament" he's sure won quite a bit of them lol
As at least one has already said, the championship game doesn't affect seeding. I'm not even sure if it's possible given timing of the game vs the seeding process, but I think many here would agree based on observation.
The ACC championship game used to be on Sunday and they moved it to Saturday. SEC should do the same, not necessarily because that would impact seeding, but it would give the teams another day to rest up for the big dance.
Enjoying the individual games, especially the grudge matches, throughout the season is more important to me than winning the SEC and NCAA tournaments, although winning them means there are more exciting games to watch. So I hope we win both, but not as much for bragging rights.
The ACC championship game used to be on Sunday and they moved it to Saturday. SEC should do the same, not necessarily because that would impact seeding, but it would give the teams another day to rest up for the big dance.
Enjoying the individual games, especially the grudge matches, throughout the season is more important to me than winning the SEC and NCAA tournaments, although winning them means there are more exciting games to watch. So I hope we win both, but not as much for bragging rights.
Sort of. But if you think he places winning titles above anything else, you're kidding yourself.
You know the flipside to the whole Sunday not counting thing is a loss could definitely hurt a seeding as well. I feel like that's not considered nearly as much.
Most everyone that is into sports loves to win. If I lay a game of checkers, I want to win. A competitive fire is just within you. I have witnessed assistant coaches hold Cal back. He wants to put guys in the NBA, but if you don't think he wants to win u r kidding urself
I do feel like he's contributed to it tho.
People have this impression of Cal for a reason. His talks are mainly about the players (something I don't think is necessarily a bad thing).
I can see why people feel he doesn't care about winning or that he places things above winning which I think for most is the more accurate statement. Not many say he doesn't care about winning. Rather they say he prioritizes things over that.
I don't feel that's entirely true but I can see why some feel that way.
People have this impression of Cal for a reason. His talks are mainly about the players (something I don't think is necessarily a bad thing).
I can see why people feel he doesn't care about winning or that he places things above winning which I think for most is the more accurate statement. Not many say he doesn't care about winning. Rather they say he prioritizes things over that.
I don't feel that's entirely true but I can see why some feel that way.
Cal himself said he was "PREPARING" for the "tournament in 2 weeks".
I said that Cal has INFERRED numerous times that the SEC Tournament is of little significance to him.
His OWN WORDS reflect this.
As far as the SEC tourney goes, I don't like it either. You have to win 6 games in a row to win it, you throw in the tournament, now it's 9. You throw in the end of the season...
Which one is more important to you? I'm not defending Cal, I just don't think a tournament is necessary, you have played 18 conference games
Yeah it's definitely a lot.
No one seemed to care in 2012 when we lost to Vandy only to go on and win the title later.
That he thinks it will be a "waste of time" tells you all you need to know about him. Only a poor and/or lazy coach would think that.
Yep. Most 18 yr olds know better what to say at this point.
He's like an aging pop star with just one hit over a decade ago that thinks everyone wants to hear what he has to say, blames his lack of success on the fans that buy his records, and should just stop talking and get busy writing hit songs.
Not sure what you call it...Fat and sassy, just plain lazy OR a really dumb AD that took away from this coach via having something to hold him to the fire with.(His contract).., the true incentive in sports. To compete and win.... It can be debated what happened and how but it cannot be debated that the product on the court in the coaches box in over five years, (Not a few years. That is being too nice or naive.) is grossly deficient and not acceptable.
To do so little with so much.... (Try fathoming the players that have come through this program during the ENTIRE time of Coach Cal.... and the product he has produced these last over five years...)
So, were all of those SEC Tournament Championships we have won over the years "important" to you????!!!!
They MOST DEFINITELY were to me!!!
Every one of Cal's Final 4 teams have made it to the SEC Tournament Championship game. That seems to be an "important" factor.
When you can't win your conference's regular season title, YEAH, the conference's tournament means even more. To the right person for the job
The SEC tournament has always been a BBN celebration/reunion for fans who don't typically make it to Rupp for a game(s). A deep run in the tournament is a gift from the team/coach to the fans. It's selfish of Cal to discount that aspect.
Get ready for the team to come out flat, lackadasical, and just flat out uninterested. A team plays like their coach.
Some spends thousands of dollars to go see and support the Cats. They overwhelm the arena for their team. They deserve a great effort from not only the players but the coaches also. But I can see the point he made about prepping for a team that loses. Kind of a tough situation.
Still appalled that the Sunday final hasn't been changed. Hate it!
Still appalled that the Sunday final hasn't been changed. Hate it!
I actually see this team motivating themselves. They are playing for each other, rooting for each other. It is contagious. (Cal did expound playing for each other as well. Not a bad mantra but preach it and live it Cal...) (Coach for them Cal, coach for them...give it your best!)
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Some of ya'll are such big babies about the phrasing our coach uses. Have you not thought that maybe just maybe the best way to prepare for the tournament in 2 weeks would be to play as well as possible in the tournament this week and execute? Why are we treating the SEC and NCAA tournaments as if they are mutally exclusive? Did Cal say it doesn't matter at all how we look in the SEC tournament? I don't think so....
Your original post and this post are two of the dumbest posts I have ever read on here.
The Field of 68 last night had one of the guys say most coaches in the P5 hate these conference tournaments. It doesn't sound exclusive to Calipari.
I said exactly this earlier in the thread but some act like Cal touched them. I wonder if the boys who constantly cry wolf know how obvious they are lately with all the fake outrage?
* I forgot to add. He didn't say they weren't trying to win them. That they just don't like them.
I'd think it's because they'd be leary of playing 3 games in 3 days which could raise the chances of injury happening.
I said this as well earlier in the thread. It's beyond obvious that he's scared of an injury right before the big dance but some have dug in. They've cried wolf one too many times and cant be taken seriously. Heck, some of them aren't even UK fans.
I understand everything you said about our Wildcats. Cal cares about winning every game he puts his team on the court. He made these comments after we won the tournament and didn’t improve our seed in the NCAA. The answer he was given is the games played on Sunday and the seeds are done by then. He was just voicing his opinion of why play it then??? I get it. Give your team another days rest. He wanted the tourney moved to end Saturday like the ACC so the committee can consider the champion. The NCAA uses the SEC as the goat to garner money on Sunday that doesn’t even matter. Lord knows they would not do that to UNC and Duke their favorites in the ACC. Their champion matters. Don’t mean squat for the SEC champions. That’s the way the NCAA wants it. Context is everything when interpreting a quote.
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