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How do you feel about the number of players that leave UK early every year?

How do you feel about about the number of players annually leaving UK early?

  • It's the price we pay for having the best players. Overall it's a good thing.

    Votes: 116 50.0%
  • I'm tired of the constant roster turnover and don't think it's the best way to win a title.

    Votes: 116 50.0%

  • Total voters
    232
Point is, they can't just arbitrarily impose standards the way some employers can. And if the Player's Union decided to really make a stand against any age restrictions, the owners wouldn't be able to fight it except in an indirect way.


I agree but employers with union employees are the same in many ways.

The NBA players and union employees do not hold all the cards either...
 
I agree but employers with union employees are the same in many ways.

The NBA players and union employees do not hold all the cards either...
True, but NBA players (and pro athletes in general) hold a lot more than most, because they are most definitely not easy to replace.
 
How is it the NCAA's fault, they are academic institutions. The NBA is the one who made the one and done rule just for their own benefit. Before they had to take chances on high school kids and if they flopped it cost them money, so they create the one year rule so they can watch these kids for one year in college then have them come out. I say let the kid go straight from high school if he is good enough, don't force them into college.

It is the ncaa's fault because they hold ALL the cards and could have the nba eating out of their hands. All the ncaa has to do is allow kids to retain eligibility even if they enter the draft; even if they sign with an agent. The only way a kid loses eligibility is once he sets foot on the floor in an actual game. If a kid goes into the draft and is not taken at his desired spot and/or if the kid is not offered a salary he is satisfied with, the ncaa could allow him to continue playing college ball.
The nba has absolutely NO, zero power in this situation. Just imagine some team spending, say a 28th pick in the first round on a kid, who decides he is not satisfied. It wouldn't take too many times for this to happen that the nba would either decide:
1. Kids can go into the league straight out of hs (still the ncaa could allow eligibility) or, 2. The nba would pursue working with the ncaa to come up with an agreeable solution.
 
It is the ncaa's fault because they hold ALL the cards and could have the nba eating out of their hands. All the ncaa has to do is allow kids to retain eligibility even if they enter the draft; even if they sign with an agent. The only way a kid loses eligibility is once he sets foot on the floor in an actual game. If a kid goes into the draft and is not taken at his desired spot and/or if the kid is not offered a salary he is satisfied with, the ncaa could allow him to continue playing college ball.
The nba has absolutely NO, zero power in this situation. Just imagine some team spending, say a 28th pick in the first round on a kid, who decides he is not satisfied. It wouldn't take too many times for this to happen that the nba would either decide:
1. Kids can go into the league straight out of hs (still the ncaa could allow eligibility) or, 2. The nba would pursue working with the ncaa to come up with an agreeable solution.
Pretty good creative thinking. The agent thing would be a mess, though. You'd have wholesale buying of players by colleges via funneling money through agents (something a lot of people think happens already), and then agents interfering with college programs. I think you'd have to keep the rules the same on that.

But allowing kids to enter the draft, see where they end up (or if they're even selected), and then allowing them to return isn't that far-fetched. It would certainly cause some major rethinking from the NBA, and might put a stop to one of the worst aspects of the draft, which is that the way things are set-up now, it's in the NBA's best interest to encourage as many kids as possible to enter the draft. I mean, what do they have to lose? They get the biggest pool possible to select from, and if some deluded kid doesn't get picked, what do they care?
 
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I just wish I was so good at something that I would be interviewing for a guaranteed multi-million dollar job when I was 19 years old...

If some of you think of the one-and-done situation in that manner, you may start to change your minds.
 
It is the ncaa's fault because they hold ALL the cards and could have the nba eating out of their hands. All the ncaa has to do is allow kids to retain eligibility even if they enter the draft; even if they sign with an agent. The only way a kid loses eligibility is once he sets foot on the floor in an actual game. If a kid goes into the draft and is not taken at his desired spot and/or if the kid is not offered a salary he is satisfied with, the ncaa could allow him to continue playing college ball.
The nba has absolutely NO, zero power in this situation. Just imagine some team spending, say a 28th pick in the first round on a kid, who decides he is not satisfied. It wouldn't take too many times for this to happen that the nba would either decide:
1. Kids can go into the league straight out of hs (still the ncaa could allow eligibility) or, 2. The nba would pursue working with the ncaa to come up with an agreeable solution.

Man do you really think a kid is going to come back after he has been drafted. First, what about all the money he most likely received from his agent. These kids do not want to be in college, they want to earn money for their talents, why would they come back to college, when they can go overseas and still earn more money than you or me in some cases. They can come back to a point but face it 95% aren't coming back no matter what the NCAA does.
 
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Man do you really think a kid is going to come back after he has been drafted. First, what about all the money he most likely received from his agent. These kids do not want to be in college, they want to earn money for their talents, why would they come back to college, when they can go overseas and still earn more money than you or me in some cases. They can come back to a point but face it 95% aren't coming back no matter what the NCAA does.
Probably true. But the threat of it would effect the NBA's approach. I think players would get more honest feedback from NBA teams.
 
I think it doesn't matter what I think about the one and done. It is what it is. I love Cal. I love the talent he brings in year in and year out. I love UK basketball. So I guess that is my thought. I think!
 
Probably true. But the threat of it would effect the NBA's approach. I think players would get more honest feedback from NBA teams.

The thing to me is let the kids who want or need to earn a living using their talents do so and those who want to go to college can. I personally believe several of these kids will fail, but that is part of life, how many first time business owners fail. The NBA should fund a college scholarship program for those who don't make it.
 
I just wish I was so good at something that I would be interviewing for a guaranteed multi-million dollar job when I was 19 years old...

If some of you think of the one-and-done situation in that manner, you may start to change your minds.


I can't speak for everyone but I just don't want this to turn into a "thing" at UK like one and done has. I'd say that is what a lot of UK fans are worried about. I'm sure you have common sense. Yes, we can all imagine Coach Cal using this as another notch in his belt. Not saying he will but I could see it happening and then future recruits being all like "Man, you can just go to UK and not even play one minute and still go pro !! WOW !!"
 
I can't speak for everyone but I just don't want this to turn into a "thing" at UK like one and done has. I'd say that is what a lot of UK fans are worried about. I'm sure you have common sense. Yes, we can all imagine Coach Cal using this as another notch in his belt. Not saying he will but I could see it happening and then future recruits being all like "Man, you can just go to UK and not even play one minute and still go pro !! WOW !!"

I want Diallo back. But if he's getting guaranteed millions to stay in the draft, then I would stay in the draft. I don't want this to become a common occurrence and don't think it will, but I'm also not upset about something that may or may not end up happening, especially when there's not a blatant downside/worst case scenario in this whole matter.
 
I can't speak for everyone but I just don't want this to turn into a "thing" at UK like one and done has. I'd say that is what a lot of UK fans are worried about. I'm sure you have common sense. Yes, we can all imagine Coach Cal using this as another notch in his belt. Not saying he will but I could see it happening and then future recruits being all like "Man, you can just go to UK and not even play one minute and still go pro !! WOW !!"


With the age limit AND the one year removed I'm not sure why people think this will be a common occurrence?

It just doesnt happen that often.

Nor would Cal just take players so they could enter the draft without playing unless the possibility of them playing for us was pretty high.
 
With the age limit AND the one year removed I'm not sure why people think this will be a common occurrence?

It just doesnt happen that often.

Nor would Cal just take players so they could enter the draft without playing unless the possibility of them playing for us was pretty high.


With Coach Cal, you never know. Not meaning that in a bad way toward Cal.
 
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I voted for the first option.

That said, I will admit that I don't really enjoy the early season games as much as I used to, because I don't know who the players are and really have no idea what it is I'm supposed to be looking for. Throw in a bad opponent, and we'll, it's just hard to enjoy.
 
Man do you really think a kid is going to come back after he has been drafted. First, what about all the money he most likely received from his agent. These kids do not want to be in college, they want to earn money for their talents, why would they come back to college, when they can go overseas and still earn more money than you or me in some cases. They can come back to a point but face it 95% aren't coming back no matter what the NCAA does.
But it's their choice, not the nba's. That's my position. Remove restrictions on the kid that have been placed there for reasons other than the kid's best interests. Cal is the poster-child for doing what colleges should be all about...doing what is best for kids. Unfortunately, colleges are just like most other businesses....bottom-line comes first.
 
To be blunt, I think it is becoming a bit ridiculous in terms of overall numbers of guys who are leaving every year. I can understand 1st round picks going. But we have way too many guys leaving early that have no business leaving early. Cal has created a bit of a monster here with the culture of "one and done".
 
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