Good point, I hadn't thought of that. Depending on hole, if an errant driver like myself, could just tee off with a safe shot using 7-iron, knowing the pro can still get you close when 200-250 away.
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Disagree.....If I hit a bomb it might go 250. Probably usually in the 220-240 range. If you don't think a pro hitting it probably 100 yards closer to the green is a bigger help than chipping, I don't know what to tell to you.
I miss a ton of greens, and therefore I am chipping a lot. Really one of my strengths. Sure, a pro will chip it and putt it to a gimme, but I am not hitting it out of bounds or in the water chipping or putting. LOL
Have you ever watched a pro hit it into the woods, another fairway, fairway bunker or the deep rough? Are you going to save par from the places they do?
Sounds like some of you guys need to just work on that driver and hit the tour since your short game is on par, no pun intended, with the pro's. 😂
A or C is the only choice. I am sort of in your camp, about the same length as you. Especially from the back tees, it wouldn't matter what a pro did for me on or near the green, on a long par four, I might still be 80 yards out after two shots, unless the pro is phenomenal, going to make a lot of bogeys from there. OTOH, if the pro is on or real close to a par five green in two, I like my chances to make no worse than a 5, will get it up and down for a birdie at least some of the time as well.
Bro swing by the Kentucky Open in a few months. Those fellas don't hit it in the woods very often. Definitely not as much as I do.
Give me a 125-150 yard smooth swing from a fairway over a 200 yard swing out of my shoes 4 iron any day of the week.
Sounds like some of you need to work on short game so you can then join the tour since your long game is so consistent.
If you can’t figure out that penalty strokes can kill a score, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Putting and chipping, but especially putting is the easiest part of the game. Putting isn’t mechanics or flexibility or strength or form, it’s simply practice and confidence and feel.
Is my short game as good as a pro’s ? Hell no. But my irons are more worse (but manageable, and would be even better if didn’t have to use long irons so often), and my driver and woods simply suck. And don’t you think I’ve tried to fix them? I’ve taken lessons. That’s the hardest part of the game. But I can’t make my body not do an outside-in swing path. Slice, pull-hook, slice, pull-hook.
I just think it’s simple-minded to think what may apply to you (that your short game needs work, and it’s easy to improve your swing), applies to everyone.
Putting and chipping yips, especially putting, have ruined careers of many pro's....even those who went from winning a major to not being able to make a 3 footer.
I always laugh at these hypotheticals. You have to make 2 not shitty golf swings to get near the green in 2. Then the precision comes into play.
It’s so easy to learn that I have 2 friends who are not on the tour now because of it. These guys can stripe the ball anytime they want but get them on a green and it turns into an ish fest for guys at that level yet on my best day I cannot execute even close to the level of short game those guys can. Give me just 1/2 of their short game ability and I am likely a scratch player.
I played in a tournament years ago, shot around 80 in the hardest way possible, hit it all over the place, and had to get it up and down all day long. After the round, one of the guys in my foursome pulled me aside and gave me some solid advice: "You need to work on your long game to get it to the point where your short game matters". Over time, I found that to be very true, in my case at least.
It should be noted, the majority of courses I play, and probably you, are not greens anywhere near pro players play on. Save a few exclusive courses, most of the greens will be friendlier to any approach shot they see on tour. Most of these guys can go pin seeking when I would be hitting a long iron. You won't see shots run away from flag off the green.
And an in ability to hit a drive in bounds prevents players from even becoming a pro.
Putting and chipping are vitally important. Especially to pro's, ALL of who can consistently be in or near the fairway and then on or near the green.
But for some (not all) of us who are FAR from being as good as a pro, the biggest difference in us and a pro are those first 2 shots. I'm an 18 handicap, have a friend that played in college and is a 3-4 handicap. And he will tell you that my short game is better than his. That is how bad my long game is.
That is an interesting point you make. I know for me personally, I play better on nicer courses even when they are considered more difficult (bigger slope/rating), with some exceptions. I think because since I am "a picker" rather than "a ball compressor" I do better with some grass under my ball from fairway & rough. Also as a good chipper and putter, good greens are more predictable. But I think some people play better on the easier yet worse condition courses.
Back to letting a pro hit, stat no pro has ever averaged 10 feet or better from75-100 yards. Does that change your thinking?
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Not for me. My best chance is with the pro hitting my drives.
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Cleaning out the closet, I ran across an old Cobra 5-wood that I bought used, back in the NINETIES.
I thought it was long gone, but it got me through a lot of rounds at Meadowbrook, when I was taking the game up again, and anything over 130 yards was hopeless for me with an iron from the tee.
I think, with this old friend in my bag, this might be the year I break 87. LOL (at Canewood, NOT Meadowbrook)
I thought it was long gone, but it got me through a lot of rounds at Meadowbrook, when I was taking the game up again, and anything over 130 yards was hopeless for me with an iron from the tee.
I think, with this old friend in my bag, this might be the year I break 87. LOL (at Canewood, NOT Meadowbrook)
I shot better at Lakeside on Saturday in terms of over par than i did at Meadowbrook yesterday. I COULD NOT get used to those hairy greens at Meadowbrook after playing Lakeside.
Amazing how many golfers have that one club, or a few clubs that treated them right through the years. Pretty much all of us have had those.
To simplify it like you just did. I can make just as ridiculous a statement as you just did.
"I can go out and teach an 8yo to not 3-putt very often, but no one can teach him to hit it 250-300y in the fairway off the tee."
I guess it all depends on the hole.
Par 3- A. pro off the tee. Hopefully at worst 2 putt for par, maybe sink a putt for birdie.
Long par 5 - A. Pro with driver & 3 Wood. Me if not on in 2, chip and putt.
PAR 4 - B. Pro's approach shot, even if I had a short drive, the pro will get it on, me putting.
Par 3- A. pro off the tee. Hopefully at worst 2 putt for par, maybe sink a putt for birdie.
Long par 5 - A. Pro with driver & 3 Wood. Me if not on in 2, chip and putt.
PAR 4 - B. Pro's approach shot, even if I had a short drive, the pro will get it on, me putting.
Played Dale Hollow this past weekend. 1st time. Nice layout. Bunkers were a mess. Early spring, not as plush as I was told it would be.
They have "supposedly" been working on the bunkers since last fall. Perhaps a lack of man power to get it complete, who knows. It's hard to believe this course was once top 10 in the state.
Play DH about every year and enjoy it but the bunkers def needed some work. Lack of manpower and $ is hurting a lot of courses now. Hope they clean it up because DH is a nice course and should be a staple state park course.
Most Kentucky courses have way too many sand bunkers (and most are poorly designed and implemented).
Only played it once, but thought Mineral Mounds was the best state park GC in Kentucky.
OT: Rumor at Champions is that the Barbasol/Kentucky Open is most likely moving to Louisville next year, Junior Bridgeman and other Louisville bigwigs have a sponsor but conditioned upon it being in Louisville. One potential holdup is lack of a course. Was supposed to be at Hurstbourne but we heard that the club pro and the club president were against the idea. I also heard Champions has pretty much quit looking for a name sponsor, and it will be the Kentucky Open this year, paid for pretty much by the PGA.
Talor Gooch not even going to try and qualify for either the US or British Open. Taking his ball and going home like someone's going to miss him and his legacy.
Love it or hate it, it’s Tiger Woods. He still brings the ratings and his body of work speaks for itself even though his current health and game is not up to US Open standards. Zero chance they exclude him from it.
It is moving to Louisville next year. Name change should happen after the PGA and it will be after one of the owners of Valhalla - name escapes me.
Hurstbourne CC was the choice but they turned it down. Officials have been to UL Golf Club (Cardinal Club) a few times over the last 2 weeks - parking will be an issue IMO.
Not sure why they're not going to Valhalla but maybe they will after '25?
