Good for Patrick Reed for playing. Unless they changed the rules, he could have just sat home and collected his 30th place check.
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Really don’t like the format. Everyone should start at even like they do week to week. These guys are pros. They don’t need an advantage before the tournament starts.
While it is golf and nothing is guaranteed I agree that they should start even.
Think they used to do that, but changed the format to be more of a real playoff, and to avoid fluke winners like they used to have, who got hot for two weeks and won $25M.
Starting even doesn't reward those who have been better than the others the entire year, inc. the events with more points available. There is a reason that "points" are available for each event. This is not a win and advance format. Starting even would also not guarantee strong fields in the playoff events, as there is no reason for someone to play if they know they will make the final field regardless if they play the two prior weeks or not.
Yes the current format is fair to the golfers who have performed the best throughout the season. Somebody gets hot in the final and shoots a 59-60 they will be in contention.
Getting fitted for a new driver today. I’ll be so excited to hit it 15 yards farther out of bounds. ![[laughing]](http://l.yimg.com/j/assets/img/emoticons/classic/laugh.r191677.gif "Laughing [laughing]")
Getting fitted for a new driver today. I’ll be so excited to hit it 15 yards farther out of bounds.
I am talking about starting even in the Tour Championship only. No one should start with a two or more stroke advantage on anyone. The top 30 guys are usually the ones who have played good all year. A golfer can get hot at any time. If any of these 30 win it’s not a fluke.
They did that. And it confused the hell out of everybody because they had two leaderboards, one for the FedEx Cup and one for the Tour Championship. This way they have one leaderboard.
And the tour hated having two awards ceremonies at the end of Sunday, one for the tournament and one for the FedEx Cup.
I’m not a huge fan of the current system, and neither is Cantlay even though he benefits from it. Problem is, how do you come up with a better system without having 2 leaderboards and 2 different winners in East Lake every year.
What is wrong with that? Why does one person have to win both? That is what is exciting about it. Too many people worried about formality and what people think. Change it now.
The players didn’t decide this. Just forget it. We can’t change it but it still sucks. Ask John Rahm.
If you ask me my 3 favorite golfers of all time you get:
Tiger
Arnold
Payne
What a touch of class speech from Justin Rose.
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Leave today....there tomorrow and Sunday. I am not going to get thrown out, but I can't speak for my brother.
Finally got around to picking up a new driver. Been gaming a Titleist 913D2 for about 6 years .with a Diamana 75 gram stiff shaft. Got a new Titleist TSi2 with a Tensei Blue 55 gram stiff shaft. Went from a low kick point to a mid. Launching a little bit lower than before but also went from 10° to 9°.
As someone said above, the shaft makes all the difference. Every manufacturer is bumping up against the legal limits for all aspects of the club heads but shafts are not regulated other than length. AFAIK
As someone said above, the shaft makes all the difference. Every manufacturer is bumping up against the legal limits for all aspects of the club heads but shafts are not regulated other than length. AFAIK
Sorry if shared. Cool video and if you ever get to Sawgrass, a lot of it is very accessible to check out.
Justin Thomas pulls Phil Mickelson prank on fans after team dinner in Atlanta
Phil Mickelson may not be playing on the Ryder Cup team, but that doesn’t mean Justin Thomas can’t have a little fun at his expense.
2020 Ryder Cup: Steve Stricker makes U.S. captain's picks, including Jordan Spieth, Xander Schauffele
Stricker mostly went chalk, but he will take six rookies to Whistling Straits
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Yeah it’s interesting for sure. Lots of youth, but lots of talent also. Seems weird lacking the experience, but that hasn’t worked out so well either, Maybe this will.US Ryder Cup picks.2020 Ryder Cup: Steve Stricker makes U.S. captain's picks, including Jordan Spieth, Xander Schauffele
Stricker mostly went chalk, but he will take six rookies to Whistling Straits
Stop hitting it in the sand to the point you call it a "game" and your current technique will be fine.
Trust me, I watch the Golf Channel. On cable..
I will catch shit for this post, and deserved a bit, BUT if I am picking, I take Reed over Spieth (between only the 2). He is made for this shit. Spieth, 0-6 in his last 6 matches in Ryder and Presidents Cup. And not one loss was from a elite player (Henrik Stenson was the biggest name in 2016 Ryder Cup). Graeme McDowell (14 RC), Thorbjorn Olesen (18 RC), and Graham Delaet (13 PC), Jhonattan Vegas (17 PC), Marc Leishman (15 PC), along with Stenson(16 RC) are the 6 he lost to. Also, Reed beat him head to head in the 2018 WGC match play.
Reed on the other hand is 4-1-1 in his 6 RC / PC matches.
2019 PC beat CT Pan (he was hot as a $2 pistol then) 4&2
2018 RC beat Tyrell Hatton 3&2
2017 PC lost to Louis Oosthuizen 1 UP
2016 RC beat Rory Mcllroy 1 UP
2015 PC halved Louis Oosthuizen
2014 RC beat Henrik Stenson 1 UP
That tells me all I need to know when making a decision. Only lost was to Oosthuizen, one of the best ball strikers in the world, but beat some very good players. Plus bet Spieth heads up in WGC in the same format. Reed should be on the team, not saying leave Spieth off, but he deserved to be on the team over SOMEBODY picked.
Stricker paired with Spieth is several RC / PC events and I am sure they are "buddies", so the Good Ole Boy system at work. IDGAF about popularity contest, I care about winning. Also, quit picking courses that favor the Euro guys. They love links courses and we served it up perfect for them. US players favor wide fairways, short rough and fast greens. Whistling Straits offers none of that. Lakeside (wind) check, narrow fairways- check, slow greens - check. It is as if they where trying to be as great of a host as possible for the visiting team. September weather can be anywhere from mid 50's to mid 70's with wind and rain. Right down the Euro's alley, they play in those conditions very often across the pond. The ball travels less in the cooler weather taking away the bombers advantage.
Reed on the other hand is 4-1-1 in his 6 RC / PC matches.
2019 PC beat CT Pan (he was hot as a $2 pistol then) 4&2
2018 RC beat Tyrell Hatton 3&2
2017 PC lost to Louis Oosthuizen 1 UP
2016 RC beat Rory Mcllroy 1 UP
2015 PC halved Louis Oosthuizen
2014 RC beat Henrik Stenson 1 UP
That tells me all I need to know when making a decision. Only lost was to Oosthuizen, one of the best ball strikers in the world, but beat some very good players. Plus bet Spieth heads up in WGC in the same format. Reed should be on the team, not saying leave Spieth off, but he deserved to be on the team over SOMEBODY picked.
Stricker paired with Spieth is several RC / PC events and I am sure they are "buddies", so the Good Ole Boy system at work. IDGAF about popularity contest, I care about winning. Also, quit picking courses that favor the Euro guys. They love links courses and we served it up perfect for them. US players favor wide fairways, short rough and fast greens. Whistling Straits offers none of that. Lakeside (wind) check, narrow fairways- check, slow greens - check. It is as if they where trying to be as great of a host as possible for the visiting team. September weather can be anywhere from mid 50's to mid 70's with wind and rain. Right down the Euro's alley, they play in those conditions very often across the pond. The ball travels less in the cooler weather taking away the bombers advantage.
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Lots of truth in this post. Wonder if Reed's illness hurt his chances. I do agree he should be on the team if he can play. He is the closest thing we have to Ian Poulter.
Last RC Patrick Reed lost both 4 ball matches with Tiger, shot an 80 in the second match, lied to the press and said Tiger apologized to him (rolleyes), won a meaningless singles match then proceeded to blast the captain and multiple teammates on the way out the door. Went 1-3-0 in the last President's Cup, had a caddie get in a fight with a spectator, and again tossed multiple teammates under the bus publicly. His wife and entire team are a traveling circus, in person, online, etc. not to mention that he's a known cheater, weeks removed from being hospitalized for covid and hasn't really played that well this season.
US has enough drama with the Bryson/Brooks mess, there is more than enough talent, what they need is team chemistry and Reed doesn't help that at all. I like the picks and think we roll.
BTW, Whistling Straits is a bomber's course, that's part of the reason it is the venue.
Beautiful story. Little dusty at my desk at work.
Jay Busbee
Thu, September 9, 2021, 1:39 PM
Whenever Ben Crow played a tournament, whether in junior golf, high school, or college, his father Ken would be right there, walking nearby and watching. Every time father and son would get in the car for the drive back to their home in Pinehurst, N.C., Ken would start conversation with the same line:
“What was your best shot today?”
Start with the positive, that was Ken Crow’s way. Begin with what went right, and then work back to figure out what went wrong.
Ken Crow succumbed to cancer on August 23. Last Thursday, the day after Ken’s memorial service, Ben — now a senior at UNC Greensboro — and his mother Melody walked Pinehurst’s Cradle course with heavy hearts.
The Cradle is a nine-hole short course, with no hole longer than 127 yards. It’s perfect for an outing when the goal is the walk, not the scorecard. Although he’d grown up playing Pinehurst since he was three years old, Ben hadn’t spent much time on the Cradle.
The round was Ben’s first time swinging a club since his father’s passing. Melody, who met Ken decades before when he was a golf instructor at Pinehurst, had given up the game when Ben was born. But on Thursday, she and Ben worked as a team — he teed off on every hole, and she putted her choice of ball once they got to the green.
They reached the final hole of the round. The pin was about 101 yards away, and Ben dropped two balls — a Srixon 4 for his mother and a 3 for himself — onto the tee box. He’d seen this pin location before, downhill from a small ridge, and with a gentle right-to-left breeze, he knew exactly where to place his shot.
(Courtesy Ben Crow)
He swung his 52-degree wedge and the arc was perfect, landing just atop the ridge and then slowly rolling downhill, 30 feet into the center of the cup. It was the third ace of Ben’s career, and he and his mother exulted, along with the group behind them, for about 30 seconds.
“Then I looked down and saw the other ball was already sitting right there,” Ben told Yahoo Sports, “and so I went ahead and played that one.” The second shot landed within about three feet of the first, and followed the same path ... right into the hole.
The odds of a decent golfer of Ben’s caliber hitting a single ace are about 5,000-to-1. Back-to-back in consecutive strokes? That's a whole order of magnitude tougher. There aren't many examples of back-to-back aces — John Hudson, a European Tour pro, did it on two consecutive holes in 1971, and a Wisconsin couple did it last year — and Ben's story now ranks up there with theirs.
Once Ben’s second shot found the cup, the surrounding group exploded, and observers up on Pinehurst’s porch shouted in celebration. Melody began crying, and Ben put his arm around her.
“Everyone was celebrating around her, and she couldn’t speak,” Ben recalled, “When she finally did, she said, ‘You have no idea…’”
Ken Crow hadn’t just been a rock in their lives, he’d been a part of Pinehurst, too. He began as an instructor and worked his way up to director of golf operations at the club, which is now part of a burgeoning U.S. Open rotation. He would go on to manage numerous high-level courses in North Carolina, all the while keeping the kind of positivity that Ben maintains to this day.
“I work at junior golf tournaments, and when the kids come in off the course, the first thing I ask them is, ‘What was your best shot?’” Ben said. “If you’re not out there on the golf course having fun, what are you out there for?”
Ben is a member of UNCG’s golf team, where he acknowledges he’s not the best — more “middle to back of the pack.” He doesn’t have any illusions about his skills; he plans to go into the golf world on the business side rather than as a player. But he intends to keep the same work ethic and attitude his father instilled in him in all those car rides home.
Flaunting tradition for those who notch a hole in one, Ben didn’t get a chance to buy the clubhouse a customary round of drinks — or maybe two rounds, in this case. He’s taking his classes online while spending time with his mother, and he had to rush home for a Zoom meeting.
But that time will come, and when it does, Ben will be able to look back on a remarkable day, when his best shot was the best it could possibly be.
Twice.
wo swings, two aces: College golfer's miraculous moment
Jay Busbee
Thu, September 9, 2021, 1:39 PM
Whenever Ben Crow played a tournament, whether in junior golf, high school, or college, his father Ken would be right there, walking nearby and watching. Every time father and son would get in the car for the drive back to their home in Pinehurst, N.C., Ken would start conversation with the same line:
“What was your best shot today?”
Start with the positive, that was Ken Crow’s way. Begin with what went right, and then work back to figure out what went wrong.
Ken Crow succumbed to cancer on August 23. Last Thursday, the day after Ken’s memorial service, Ben — now a senior at UNC Greensboro — and his mother Melody walked Pinehurst’s Cradle course with heavy hearts.
The Cradle is a nine-hole short course, with no hole longer than 127 yards. It’s perfect for an outing when the goal is the walk, not the scorecard. Although he’d grown up playing Pinehurst since he was three years old, Ben hadn’t spent much time on the Cradle.
The round was Ben’s first time swinging a club since his father’s passing. Melody, who met Ken decades before when he was a golf instructor at Pinehurst, had given up the game when Ben was born. But on Thursday, she and Ben worked as a team — he teed off on every hole, and she putted her choice of ball once they got to the green.
They reached the final hole of the round. The pin was about 101 yards away, and Ben dropped two balls — a Srixon 4 for his mother and a 3 for himself — onto the tee box. He’d seen this pin location before, downhill from a small ridge, and with a gentle right-to-left breeze, he knew exactly where to place his shot.
(Courtesy Ben Crow)
He swung his 52-degree wedge and the arc was perfect, landing just atop the ridge and then slowly rolling downhill, 30 feet into the center of the cup. It was the third ace of Ben’s career, and he and his mother exulted, along with the group behind them, for about 30 seconds.
“Then I looked down and saw the other ball was already sitting right there,” Ben told Yahoo Sports, “and so I went ahead and played that one.” The second shot landed within about three feet of the first, and followed the same path ... right into the hole.
The odds of a decent golfer of Ben’s caliber hitting a single ace are about 5,000-to-1. Back-to-back in consecutive strokes? That's a whole order of magnitude tougher. There aren't many examples of back-to-back aces — John Hudson, a European Tour pro, did it on two consecutive holes in 1971, and a Wisconsin couple did it last year — and Ben's story now ranks up there with theirs.
Once Ben’s second shot found the cup, the surrounding group exploded, and observers up on Pinehurst’s porch shouted in celebration. Melody began crying, and Ben put his arm around her.
“Everyone was celebrating around her, and she couldn’t speak,” Ben recalled, “When she finally did, she said, ‘You have no idea…’”
Ken Crow hadn’t just been a rock in their lives, he’d been a part of Pinehurst, too. He began as an instructor and worked his way up to director of golf operations at the club, which is now part of a burgeoning U.S. Open rotation. He would go on to manage numerous high-level courses in North Carolina, all the while keeping the kind of positivity that Ben maintains to this day.
“I work at junior golf tournaments, and when the kids come in off the course, the first thing I ask them is, ‘What was your best shot?’” Ben said. “If you’re not out there on the golf course having fun, what are you out there for?”
Ben is a member of UNCG’s golf team, where he acknowledges he’s not the best — more “middle to back of the pack.” He doesn’t have any illusions about his skills; he plans to go into the golf world on the business side rather than as a player. But he intends to keep the same work ethic and attitude his father instilled in him in all those car rides home.
Flaunting tradition for those who notch a hole in one, Ben didn’t get a chance to buy the clubhouse a customary round of drinks — or maybe two rounds, in this case. He’s taking his classes online while spending time with his mother, and he had to rush home for a Zoom meeting.
But that time will come, and when it does, Ben will be able to look back on a remarkable day, when his best shot was the best it could possibly be.
Twice.
You are the only one I have seen state it is a bombers course. But whatever. SINGLES matches is where the Cup is won or lost. TEAM play it is not ALL his fault for all of the L's. It is funny, when it is just him Mano-a-mano, it is a totally different outcome. HMMMM. I guess they nicknamed him Captain America because he sucks in Ryder and Presidents Cup. He went toe to toe with Rory and in the most important match, and didn't flinch. He beat him, something Spieth could not do. Even against the lower end players for the Euro's, Spieth choked. Those are all facts. You take your chemistry and buddy buddy, rah, rah shit, give me the guy who will stare the opponent dead in his eyes, talk shit, and then back it up, and I will win every time. Pretty Boy Spieth wilts under pressure and Reed carried his ass several years paired together, and when they lost, he spoke his mind and said what everyone else was too scared or didn't want to say. I respect that. Yes, you are right, he is not the most lovable or even decent human being, but guess what? He doesn't have to be, just win baby !!! You have your opinion, I have mine, and that is OK. But I base mine on results, not character, I get it, golf is a gentleman's game, but Ryder Cup, throw that shit out the window.
