Actually, my attitude is that climate science is wrought with greed, corruption, political agendas and self-serving egos.
Do you want to alter humanity's path based on that?
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Do you want to alter humanity's path based on that?
The total solar, wind, and hydro electricity generation is about %18.7 of the total U.S. utility scale electricity generation per the links below.
None of these "green" energy sources provide on demand capability to power the grid and all are destructive to the environment in various ways. IOW, They aren't really "green" at all. Hopefully I don't need to explain why this is the case.
So what's the plan? Hope for some miracle while crippling our economy?
Today, over 3% of U.S. electricity comes from solar energy in the form of solar photovoltaics (PV) and concentrating solar-thermal power (CSP).
In 2021, wind turbines were the source of about 9.2% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation.
In 2021, total U.S. conventional hydroelectricity generation was about 260 billion kilowatthours (kWh), equal to about 6.5% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation.
I might add that in my neck of the woods, there is a strong push by the feds controlling both Washington and Idaho to remove our river dams and start ramping up solar. Got to save the salmon! This is a huge problem affecting not only the environment, but also agriculture transportation and commerce.
It's a typical incompetent, corrupt, ill conceived government disaster being forced on our country.
None of these "green" energy sources provide on demand capability to power the grid and all are destructive to the environment in various ways. IOW, They aren't really "green" at all. Hopefully I don't need to explain why this is the case.
So what's the plan? Hope for some miracle while crippling our economy?
Today, over 3% of U.S. electricity comes from solar energy in the form of solar photovoltaics (PV) and concentrating solar-thermal power (CSP).
In 2021, wind turbines were the source of about 9.2% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation.
In 2021, total U.S. conventional hydroelectricity generation was about 260 billion kilowatthours (kWh), equal to about 6.5% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation.
I might add that in my neck of the woods, there is a strong push by the feds controlling both Washington and Idaho to remove our river dams and start ramping up solar. Got to save the salmon! This is a huge problem affecting not only the environment, but also agriculture transportation and commerce.
It's a typical incompetent, corrupt, ill conceived government disaster being forced on our country.
I see you ignored the person who corrected you on this. Here's the link they posted, again. Despite it being a oft-repeated talking point, volcano CO2 emissions are much, much lower than anthropogenic CO2 emissions. Like, 1 to 2% as large.
Emissions of methane from volcanoes is also not particularly large. Human activity is responsible for the majority of methane emissions, and natural decay activity, primarily in wetlands, being the primary natural source.
And you obviously didn't do any research since we can maintain 300-400PPM which is considered in the normal range and never have any issues. Keep glazing over the fact that nothing that has been done over the last 120 years has caused us to get drastically hotter or colder, and there is absolutely zero science that says we are on any type of collision course with nature. It has been spewed over the last 40 years but continually proves to be incorrect. So keep glazing over the facts which are that any metrics you throw out typically don't amount to much of anything at all.
The dinosaurs went extinct because of flatulence, not some meteor, as was previously theorized.
Abandoned mines and poor oversight worsened Kentucky flooding, attorneys say
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for the lost homes and at least 37 dead is growing.
“It may be too early to tell, but I’ve received a couple phone calls already,” said Ned Pillersdorf, a Kentucky lawyer in Prestonburg who has successfully sued coal companies for flood damage in the past. “No one is denying the amount of rain we had — it truly was a 1,000 year event — but did the strip mines contribute? Absolutely.”
Kentucky, particularly the eastern mountains, are littered with abandoned coal mines. Many are a result of strip mining or mountaintop removal mining, the latter a method in which mining companies use explosives to blast off a mountain’s summit to get to the coal inside.
1,000 year flood event. Oh, but a zillion years ago, my favorite dinosaur was………
The recent flooding is a catastrophe in any sense of the word. In terms of history, it needs context. Until fairly recently, the flood stage there wasn't measured in feet like it is today. It was measured by how many courthouse steps were covered. There are several historical pictures of Knott, Perry, and letcher showing flood waters this high or worse
So it's correct to say this is the highest flood stage measured in feet. Not correct to say it's the largest ever because that can't be determined.
That said, if climate change was really the culprit there would be escalating floods annually. Hardly the case at all.
I'm always for suing people at fault. Ned's a nice guy but clearly majorly reaching here.
The other point about flooding is an Obama era epa rule stopped the practice of creek and river dredging. Dredging is critical to minimizing flood damage. If they can't do it, flood damage will keep happening.
Like the Obama era rules stopping the clearing of brush in California and national parks, causing massive wildfires, it's caused by man made stupidity. Yet those same people blame the climate.
Like the Obama era rules stopping the clearing of brush in California and national parks, causing massive wildfires, it's caused by man made stupidity. Yet those same people blame the climate.
So uh.... Kill yourself. It's the only way to save the planet. You should talk fellow activist into taking the plunge as well. The 700 million of us rational human beings left will pick up the pieces and carry on.
I know it is too much to ask people to quit wasting their time watching their horrible Partisan "news" channels or visiting the incredibly horrible partisan websites for information. At minimum, if you are on one of the Republican "News" sources and it mentions Obama, or if you are on a Democrat "news" source and it mentions Trump please take the five seconds necessary to determine if what is being said is true.
In 2014, Obama signed into law the Water Resources Reform and Development Act. A Bi-partisan piece of legislation that did many things including increasing the amount of dredging for US rivers, ports and harbors. If there is some other "rule" that then went on to reduce the impact of the bill that he signed, then please point it out. Also, if anyone wants to bother with searching for the "rule" regarding forest fires feel free. My guess is that it will have the same result.
I don't watch the news of any sort. I find it ironic you want me to stop watching the news, while posting a news link. Another internet genius thinking they know something because they found something on the internet while sipping their pumpkin spice latte.
I'm telling you from personal knowledge by talking to local leaders in that area. Not because of something I read on the internet.
It doesn't matter what a headline tells you it says. It just matters what it actually does. It's been that way at least 30 years.
Same thing with the denial of the coal permits from the same era. The epa and Obama's team swore they weren't doing anything new. Yet they would issue barely any mining permits. This isn't a comment about whether or not coal was good or bad. Just another example of the difference between what was said and what was done.
So until they replace the counterproductive mindset of the current iteration of the epa, we'll keep having massive wildfires and floods; certain people will constantly throw their hands in the air and blame the climate; the money and rules/regulations will continue to flow; and we will all dearly pay for it.
Brilliant points but, unfortunately you're wasting your time. Man-caused global warming/climate change/climate equity (whatever the hell that is) is a religious cult with them.
The bottom line is that even if human activity were entirely to blame for any worldwide change in temps, neither India or China are willing to slow down their fossil fuel-powered juggernauts. Faced with those facts, wrecking the US economy would seem suicidal.
Hahaha.
Here's how to cope: stop worrying about the earth spinning because there's nothing you can do.
If someone is literally worrying daily about the earth spinning, you have it too good and lack real problems in your life
“Since 1960”. Kinda small data set when the earth is around 4.5 billion years old…..
I woke up this morning...sun was coming up. Tonight, it will become dark. Happens every day.
What I posted was a link to the actual legislation. It is not a news link. It is actually the law of the land which provides resources and requirements for doing the actual things that you claim are the reason we are having issues. And of course, that is followed up by another round of talking points. The EPA is not the reason we had flooding in Eastern Kentucky, and no amount of new coal permits would address this issue either.
It isn't talking points. It's facts. The written word is one thing. Interpretation of it is quite another. If the epa isn't allowing it, it can't be done.
Again it's the difference between someone that knows what they're talking about and someone reading something on the internet.
All problems are because of climate change.
Want to do your own "study" about a problem? Make climate change the culprit and you'll get the funding.
Want to do your own "study" about a problem? Make climate change the culprit and you'll get the funding.
This is what a cult looks like. Kids are obese bc we inject sugar in them and sit them behind tablets
No doubt. Using Lexington as an example it definitely doesn't look like we are abnormally hot given 7 out of 14 years between 1930 and 1944 the high temp was in the triple digits. This included a 104 degree day in 1930 and multiple 108 degree days in 1936 (which by the way is the hottest recorded temperature in Lexington's history still to this day). Hard for me to buy into a couple of trillion dollar spend every year to fix something that has no real proof it even exists.
Lexington KY Highest Temperature Each Year - Current Results
List of the highest temperature and hottest day for each year in Lexington.
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And all those temps were revised down. Nasa looked through the data and decided that every weather station in the US overstated temps and only overstated. Weird that the people building thermostats back then all had it wrong the exact same way.No doubt. Using Lexington as an example it definitely doesn't look like we are abnormally hot given 7 out of 14 years between 1930 and 1944 the high temp was in the triple digits. This included a 104 degree day in 1930 and multiple 108 degree days in 1936 (which by the way is the hottest recorded temperature in Lexington's history still to this day). Hard for me to buy into a couple of trillion dollar spend every year to fix something that has no real proof it even exists.
Lexington KY Highest Temperature Each Year - Current Results
List of the highest temperature and hottest day for each year in Lexington.
The politicians are getting what they want. Pay off lobbying interests with subsidies and incentives. I suspect those interests will then help fund campaigns and so forth and so forth. The Solendra scheme. The local political solution to a global fear. $$$$$$
I was watching the local news last night in Winston Salem, NC and they did a two minute segment on global warming and the extreme temperatures across the US. Right after that, the girl doing the weather said that we would be having 10-15 degree temperatures lower than average this week. You can’t make this sh!t up. Common sense is just uncommon today. We can’t control crap, it’s all in God’s hands. We have so many atheists that think we can control everything. Good luck with that!
This has to be fake as hell. Right?
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Scotland cut down 14 million trees to clear way for wind turbines
Analysis by WorldTribune Staff, August 14, 2022 Late last year, Scotland was the site of the United Nations 26th Conference of the Parties (COP26) climate summit. The globalists at the COP26 summit…
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Watching Jerrod Carmichaels stand-up from 2016-ish titled "8" (one of the highest rated stand ups from that year so check it out)..
Trump must have just won the election and he starts off with that and he's kind of ambivalent. Then tells the crowd that he doesn't care about Global warming. He says "is it THAT dire? Why are you so worried?"
And someone from the audience goes "Rising Rivers".. yes, RISING water levels was the global warming fear back then lol.
JC: "Ehh that's alright.. so a little extra water, we good!"
Trump must have just won the election and he starts off with that and he's kind of ambivalent. Then tells the crowd that he doesn't care about Global warming. He says "is it THAT dire? Why are you so worried?"
And someone from the audience goes "Rising Rivers".. yes, RISING water levels was the global warming fear back then lol.
JC: "Ehh that's alright.. so a little extra water, we good!"
Climate change is a contributing factor to global inflation. The Ukraine situation makes it even worse.
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Climate change is a secret driver of inflation
Extreme weather is taking a toll on people, crops and infrastructure.
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Sure it is.Climate change is a contributing factor to global inflation. The Ukraine situation makes it even worse.
Climate change is a secret driver of inflation
Extreme weather is taking a toll on people, crops and infrastructure.
When our government prints more than a trillion dollars in the name of climate change, it negatively impacts inflation.
Climate activist Steven Spielberg's private jet has burned $116,000 worth of jet fuel in two months | Fox News
Spielberg criticized Americans who 'go blithely through life' without worrying about their carbon footprint in 2018
Concern!
I didn't even bother to respond to his idiotic post.
By his logic, my weekly grocery shopping also negatively impacts inflation lol.
Switzerland's glaciers lost more than half their volume since 1931 - Billionaire Club Co LLC
For the first time, researchers have used historical imagery to reconstruct a visual timeline of...
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And in the 85 years ending in 2016, Switzerland’s glaciers lost an area the size of Manhattan every ten years.
The before-and-after imagery is stunning.
The analysis, conducted by scientists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and the Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research, resulted in a striking visual contrast between Switzerland’s glaciers today and what they looked like nearly a century ago.
Given the record-high temperatures that enveloped vast swaths of the Northern Hemisphere this summer, Daniel Farinotti, a glaciologist and co-author of the study, told CNN that he expects this year’s glacier loss will be the worst.
“The year 2022 is extreme — not only have we had a very snow-poor winter, we also had an extremely warm summer, and this combination is truly the worst case,” Farinotti said. “We expect this year’s losses to be larger than the ones experienced in 2003, which so far was the ‘record year,’ in the negative sense, for glacier mass loss.”
Glacier loss causes ecoystem loss across plants and animals. It also affects the landscape’s appearance and impacts local tourism. And, importantly, glaciers are a critical source of fresh water for drinking and agriculture that disappears as the ice recedes.
“If glaciers were to disappear entirely, various regions might face issues related to water supplies — especially during summers such as we have had and are still having this year,” said Farinotti.
Farinotti said researchers expect to see another 60% loss in glacier mass by the end of the century — even if the world meets the climate targets set by the 2015 Paris Agreement.
“If climate change were to continue unabated, we might well find ourselves with European Alps that are virtually ice-free,” Farinotti warned.
The before-and-after imagery is stunning.
The analysis, conducted by scientists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology and the Swiss Federal Institute for Forest, Snow and Landscape Research, resulted in a striking visual contrast between Switzerland’s glaciers today and what they looked like nearly a century ago.
Given the record-high temperatures that enveloped vast swaths of the Northern Hemisphere this summer, Daniel Farinotti, a glaciologist and co-author of the study, told CNN that he expects this year’s glacier loss will be the worst.
“The year 2022 is extreme — not only have we had a very snow-poor winter, we also had an extremely warm summer, and this combination is truly the worst case,” Farinotti said. “We expect this year’s losses to be larger than the ones experienced in 2003, which so far was the ‘record year,’ in the negative sense, for glacier mass loss.”
Glacier loss causes ecoystem loss across plants and animals. It also affects the landscape’s appearance and impacts local tourism. And, importantly, glaciers are a critical source of fresh water for drinking and agriculture that disappears as the ice recedes.
“If glaciers were to disappear entirely, various regions might face issues related to water supplies — especially during summers such as we have had and are still having this year,” said Farinotti.
Farinotti said researchers expect to see another 60% loss in glacier mass by the end of the century — even if the world meets the climate targets set by the 2015 Paris Agreement.
“If climate change were to continue unabated, we might well find ourselves with European Alps that are virtually ice-free,” Farinotti warned.
Switzerland's glaciers lost more than half their volume since 1931 - Billionaire Club Co LLC
For the first time, researchers have used historical imagery to reconstruct a visual timeline of...
And, we are told to expect more rain. I think we will manage.
🤡Climate change is a contributing factor to global inflation. The Ukraine situation makes it even worse.
Climate change is a secret driver of inflation
Extreme weather is taking a toll on people, crops and infrastructure.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-fact-Earths-temperature-risen-15-years.html
Lack of temperature increase could lead people to think temps aren't rising....
World's top climate scientists told to 'cover up' the fact that the Earth's temperature hasn't risen for the last 15 years
- Leaked United Nations report reveals the world's temperature hasn't risen for the last 15 years
- Politicians have raised concerns about the final draft
- Fears that the findings will encourage deniers of man-made climate change
Lack of temperature increase could lead people to think temps aren't rising....
That doesn't mean temps are rising. It means temps went up enough at some point to cause melt off, but doesn't mean temps continued/continue to rise, just that the melt off continued at the minorly higher average temps. BTW, the Glacier Bay AK glacier has meted back miles in the last 100 years. So what?
So what, you ask? Yes everyone do t listen to the experts. Listen to VHCat from The Cat Paw. 😂😂
It's useless. These goons on this site know more than the people who study this for a living. Just ask them.
yep, it’d be like going to SEC media days and pretending to know more than Saban, fisher, Smart.
but overall and outside of 🐈⬛ paw, 2/3’s of people believe in climate change.
Yeah thankfully they aren't a microcosm of society. It just seems that way sometimes since they're usually the loudest. When and why did education and expertise take a backseat to uninformed "opinions" and nonsense?
