Ft. Campbell, KY schools removing books, billboards, etc. about slavery, Civil Rights Movement, Black History, etc.

[bbncal02]

https://christiancountynow.com/news...emoved-from-shelves-at-fort-campbell-schools/

This also includes books about transgender issues (which is another kettle of fish); regardless where you stand on that, removing books about the Civil Rights movement is DISGUSTING. They are also having to take down billboards that discuss Black History Month or Civil Rights leaders (including Dr. King).

I know this isn't going to be a resounding post and alot of people will disagree. Removing American history at ANY level (including Civil War, etc.) is WRONG.

I'm sad today. This is wrong.

 

[JumperJack]

What kind of moron equates history with DEI? Only the ones who are seeking to conflate them, for obvious reasons.

“At Fort Campbell, administrators and librarians are interpreting the guidance to apply to anything that deals with diversity, inclusion or equity, and anything that could be perceived to promote one group over another or make one group look bad, the source said. That would include any books that mention slavery, the civil rights movement or the treatment of Native Americans.”

 

[JonathanW]

When you don't learn about past mistakes, you tend to make them again. SMH

 

[mailman85]

Good

 

[MegaBlue05]

That’s the point of all this. Learning about civil rights and past atrocities such as Jim Crow and slavery will hurt certain students’ parents’ feelings, so we’re white washing everything and pretending it didn’t happen, so when it happens again no one will be like “how could we let this happen?”

I still remember being horrified when learning about the Civil Rights Movement in grade school in the mid 80s and that wound was still pretty fresh then but it was taught as if were 300 years ago. I never understood why people who looked like me were such assholes to other people based on skin color. I understand now.

The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth, Latino Heritage Month, Asian Heritage Month. I’m sure Columbus Day and President’s Day are still OK. (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...k-day-black-history-month-other-celebrations/)

Some of us desperately wanted this. Others did not. We will see how it goes.

 

[JumperJack]

The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth, Latino Heritage Month, Asian Heritage Month. I’m sure Columbus Day and President’s Day are still OK. (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...k-day-black-history-month-other-celebrations/)

“It also noted a pause on “special observances” hosted throughout the year. While Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth were included, the memo said the change would not affect those national holidays.“

 

[MegaBlue05]

“It also noted a pause on “special observances” hosted throughout the year. While Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth were included, the memo said the change would not affect those national holidays.“

Yes. They still get the day off, but can’t host or promote a symposium to discuss the Civil Rights era or hang posters celebrating Dr. King because …..?????

Can you help explain how these new initiatives are helpful in any way or why this is such a top priority of the current administration who promised to prioritize lowering prices and reigning in inflation?

I feel like we have much bigger fish to fry as a country than this performative 50s era nonsense that will likely be reversed one day by someone else.

Seems silly to me, but I am just a random dude in rural Kentucky who feels like I live on a different planet than 3 out of every 4 of my neighbors. Lol.

 

[bbncal02]

Good

So you think it's GOOD that people cannot read about the Civil Rights Movement in an American school? That says a lot about you and I'm not sure any of it is decent. I'd to hear your well thought out, rational, intelligent response on that.

 

[bbncal02]

“It also noted a pause on “special observances” hosted throughout the year. While Martin Luther King Jr. Day and Juneteenth were included, the memo said the change would not affect those national holidays.“

"Teacher, why do we have the day off tomorrow?"
"Sorry, Jimmy, I can't talk to you about that."

Wild shit. Wild.

 

[bbncal02]

That’s the point of all this. Learning about civil rights and past atrocities such as Jim Crow and slavery will hurt certain students’ parents’ feelings, so we’re white washing everything and pretending it didn’t happen, so when it happens again no one will be like “how could we let this happen?”

I still remember being horrified when learning about the Civil Rights Movement in grade school in the mid 80s and that wound was still pretty fresh then but it was taught as if were 300 years ago. I never understood why people who looked like me were such assholes to other people based on skin color. I understand now.

The White House has banned the Pentagon from celebrating or promoting anything like MLK Day, Juneteenth, Latino Heritage Month, Asian Heritage Month. I’m sure Columbus Day and President’s Day are still OK. (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...k-day-black-history-month-other-celebrations/)

Some of us desperately wanted this. Others did not. We will see how it goes.

It's crazy that in a country that espouses "Freedom and Justice" for all that you are no longer free to learn about Civil RIghts, slavery, Dr. King, etc in an American school.

And to be clear, I'm not angry at Ft. Campbell Schools or their administration- they are having to comply due to their status within the Department of Defense. I am very angry at the US government for pushing this. And DURING Black History Month. What an insanely loud dog whistle.

 

[WillGolf4Food]

The current tribe in power will scream bloody murder when the other tribe takes power and reverses all that’s been done.

That’s just one of the reasons the Executive Order has gotten out of hand. These issues were meant to be decided by congress not one person.

 

[bbncal02]

Yes. They still get the day off, but can’t host or promote a symposium to discuss the Civil Rights era or hang posters celebrating Dr. King because …..?????

Can you help explain how these new initiatives are helpful in any way or why this is such a top priority of the current administration who promised to prioritize lowering prices and reigning in inflation?

I feel like we have much bigger fish to fry as a country than this performative 50s era nonsense that will likely be reversed one day by someone else.

Seems silly to me, but I am just a random dude in rural Kentucky who feels like I live on a different planet than 3 out of every 4 of my neighbors. Lol.

It's all good man. I've been accused of being a libtard several times this week, just for asking if things like renaming bodies of water are a priority. For the record, I've been an independent for nearly 20 years. Used to be a Republican, only one in my family I might add. So, I've pretty conservative on several issues. Just don't put up with political theater well, and that what a LOT of this is right now.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Feel like Fort Campbell is going the extreme response here imo. But at the same time I do t really give a shit and this is the exact type of nonsense that everyone pays attention to and focuses on instead of important issues that actually effect the people of this country.

 

[bbncal02]

Feel like Fort Campbell is going the extreme response here imo. But at the same time I do t really give a shit and this is the exact type of nonsense that everyone pays attention to and focuses on instead of important issues that actually effect the people of this country.

Like renaming bodies of water while grocery prices skyrocket? The problem is the current administration is making a lot of noise about small things. And I'm not sure exactly why.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Like renaming bodies of water while grocery prices skyrocket? The problem is the current administration is making a lot of noise about small things. And I'm not sure exactly why.

I mean I’m not super into politics but it’s seemed to me they’ve uncovered hundreds of billions of fraud from US taxpayers and are securing the border which should hopefully help in the long run with the inflation that’s been going on the last 5 years post COVID

 

[JumperJack]

Can you help explain how these new initiatives are helpful in any way or why this is such a top priority of the current administration who promised to prioritize lowering prices and reigning in inflation?

Because DEI is inherently racist. You’ve been in a cave if you don’t know why.

Like the deal with the Tuskegee Airmen, this amounts to malicious compliance (which was immediately corrected by Hegseth himself).

Imagine being a college educated adult and believing that in order to talk about MLK, slavery, or civil rights, you also have to be able to say that white people are inherently racist and oppressive. But that’s exactly what is happening here, whether you grasp it or not.

And just to be clear: this new administration promised multiple things in addition to addressing inflation. Please don’t pretend that eliminating the racism of DEI is not one of those things.

 

[JumperJack]

Like renaming bodies of water while grocery prices skyrocket? The problem is the current administration is making a lot of noise about small things. And I'm not sure exactly why.

They are doing unprecedented work in addressing government waste which is the #1 contributor to inflation.

 

[MegaBlue05]

It's all good man. I've been accused of being a libtard several times this week, just for asking if things like renaming bodies of water are a priority. For the record, I've been an independent for nearly 20 years. Used to be a Republican, only one in my family I might add. So, I've pretty conservative on several issues. Just don't put up with political theater well, and that what a LOT of this is right now.

I get it. I am a libtard in Kentucky and a card carrying conservative in California. I am also currently a member of no party (not much for us to do in primary season though n Kentucky) and am formerly a member of both parties. Neither truly represents me and both repulse me in different ways.

I agree that real issues that affect every day working people are much more important than red meat political theater that’s so prevalent on both sides of the aisle today.

 

[bbncal02]

They are doing unprecedented work in addressing government waste which is the #1 contributor to inflation.

Yet inflation was going down, and now it's going up. And the US government is going to give 400M to Tesla for Cybertrucks. But sure, no waste their nor conflict of interest.

 

[bbncal02]

I get it. I am a libtard in Kentucky and a card carrying conservative in California. I am also currently a member of no party (not much for us to do in primary season though n Kentucky) and am formerly a member of both parties. Neither truly represents me and both repulse me in different ways.

I agree that real issues that affect every day working people are much more important than red meat political theater that’s so prevalent on both sides of the aisle today.

Nice to be GBI (God Blessed Independent). I'm beholden to NO man that's for sure.

 

[Ron Mehico]

Yet inflation was going down, and now it's going up. And the US government is going to give 400M to Tesla for Cybertrucks. But sure, no waste their nor conflict of interest.

You seem really independent 🙄 so I would say let’s see how inflation looks 4 years from now instead of 2 weeks into a presidency which is a little ridiculous to judge anything on. Just my take though.

 

[bbncal02]

Because DEI is inherently racist. You’ve been in a cave if you don’t know why.

Like the deal with the Tuskegee Airmen, this amounts to malicious compliance (which was immediately corrected by Hegseth himself).

Imagine being a college educated adult and believing that in order to talk about MLK, slavery, or civil rights, you also have to be able to say that white people are inherently racist and oppressive. But that’s exactly what is happening here, whether you grasp it or not.

And just to be clear: this new administration promised multiple things in addition to addressing inflation. Please don’t pretend that eliminating the racism of DEI is not one of those things.

I have several friends that are teachers in public school. A couple of them history teachers. They don't teach that the Civil Rights Movement is somehow related to white people being racist in today's world. But you'd be naive to think that wasn't the case in the 60's.
And incidents like Emmet Till and the kidnapping of Civil Rights workers are proof of very systemic racism in the South. Now, of course, racism will never truly die as long as human exist, and we are in a MUCH better place today than 60 years ago. But to sit and agree with the removal of billboards discussing Dr. King and books that talk about slavery is naive. It's no different than removing statues. ANY erasure or censure of American history is morally WRONG.

 

[FearThe Blue]

Feel like Fort Campbell is going the extreme response here imo. But at the same time I do t really give a shit and this is the exact type of nonsense that everyone pays attention to and focuses on instead of important issues that actually effect the people of this country.

There is actually a name for it: malicious compliance. The Air Force tried that by claiming they would no longer be able to teach about the Tuskegee airmen. Until the new secdef told them to knock it off.

 

[WillGolf4Food]

Imagine being a college educated adult and believing that in order to talk about MLK, slavery, or civil rights, you also have to be able to say that white people are inherently racist and oppressive. But that’s exactly what is happening here, whether you grasp it or not.

College educated and was taught about slavery, MLK, and civil rights without being told that white people are inherently racist and oppressive.

If that’s what’s happening in today’s classrooms than this response is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It’s both a lazy and irresponsible fix while smelling very opportunistic.

 

[WillGolf4Food]

They are doing unprecedented work in addressing government waste which is the #1 contributor to inflation.

Wow...you read that on X?

You probably believe the president when he said tariff's are a tax on the other country.

 

[Mash 2.4]

I think all history should be studied and discussed. I don’t think there should be a fixation upon one particular issue, but it should be studied. I also think discussions should be had in some scholarly environment, maybe at the college level, about why violent crime is committed by certain racial segments at a much higher rate than others. And try to come up with solutions to lower them.

 

[IdaCat]

Wow...you read that on X?

You probably believe the president when he said tariff's are a tax on the other country.

The fraud being uncovered is massive. Extremely.

I'm not surprised you don't know anything about it since demo☭rats are screaming to keep it hidden. The left even used taxpayer money to fund MSM pRoGrEsSiVe propaganda to create NPCs like you.

DoGE has the receipts. For everything.

 

[bbncal02]

The fraud being uncovered is massive. Extremely.

I'm not surprised you don't know anything about it since demo☭rats are screaming to keep it hidden. The left even used taxpayer money to fund MSM pRoGrEsSiVe propaganda to create NPCs like you.

DoGE has the receipts. For everything.

So why then has Trump said those receipts are to be classified at the Presidential level and not subject to FOIA requests? If there's nothing to hide, why are the receipts not being made public?

I'm ALL for cutting waste. But color me suspicious when Elon is then taking a 400M contract like it's not a conflict of interest.

 

[JumperJack]

I have several friends that are teachers in public school. A couple of them history teachers. They don't teach that the Civil Rights Movement is somehow related to white people being racist in today's world. But you'd be naive to think that wasn't the case in the 60's.
And incidents like Emmet Till and the kidnapping of Civil Rights workers are proof of very systemic racism in the South. Now, of course, racism will never truly die as long as human exist, and we are in a MUCH better place today than 60 years ago. But to sit and agree with the removal of billboards discussing Dr. King and books that talk about slavery is naive. It's no different than removing statues. ANY erasure or censure of American history is morally WRONG.

All I can say is that you have no idea what you’re talking about if you think that DEI is necessary to learn history.

Find out what DEI is. The supreme irony here is that it repeats the wrongs of the past.

 

[JumperJack]

So why then has Trump said those receipts are to be classified at the Presidential level and not subject to FOIA requests? If there's nothing to hide, why are the receipts not being made public?

I'm ALL for cutting waste. But color me suspicious when Elon is then taking a 400M contract like it's not a conflict of interest.

Do you think a guy worth maybe hundreds of billions is doing this to get a 400 million dollar contract?

He was getting contracts before this. Please be sensible and quit believing what Facebook says.

 

[IdaCat]

So why then has Trump said those receipts are to be classified at the Presidential level and not subject to FOIA requests? If there's nothing to hide, why are the receipts not being made public?

I'm ALL for cutting waste. But color me suspicious when Elon is then taking a 400M contract like it's not a conflict of interest.

https://www.doge.gov/

 

[bbncal02]

All I can say is that you have no idea what you’re talking about if you think that DEI is necessary to learn history.

Find out what DEI is. The supreme irony here is that it repeats the wrongs of the past.

Where did I support DEI? And if teaching about facts of history is DEI to you, well, I can't help you.

Fact: Black Americans were HIGHLY suppressed and discriminated against in the 60s .

 

[WillGolf4Food]

The fraud being uncovered is massive. Extremely.

I'm not surprised you don't know anything about it since demo☭rats are screaming to keep it hidden. The left even used taxpayer money to fund MSM pRoGrEsSiVe propaganda to create NPCs like you.

DoGE has the receipts. For everything.

That’s the problem with your politics. I question one of your tribe members about a reason for inflation and you come back with a MAGA Bingo card full of gibberish fresh out of the echo chamber thread that has zero to do with inflationary causes.

 

[bbncal02]

Do you think a guy worth maybe hundreds of billions is doing this to get a 400 million dollar contract?

He was getting contracts before this. Please be sensible and quit believing what Facebook says.

Is it fact or not? It seems he's getting the contract. I could give a shit less why. It's a conflict of interest. While he's working FOR the government, he shouldn't be getting ANY contracts that further his own interests.

"Quit believe what Facebook says"

Oh the absolute IRONY of that.

 

[Nightwish84]

IMO this isn't a hill Dems need to die on. Maybe learn how to talk to the American people again and win elections first. Regardless, both sides, particularly the far right LOVE this shit. A couple years back, a poster ranted about seeing tv logos in the corner of the screen rainbow colored for Pride Month. He was legit frustrated over that. So we're going to have four years of pretending Black History Month and Pride Month don't exist and once a Dem wins again, these things will return. I can tell just from the Paddock though that "woke" has been replaced by "DEI" so that's something. I wonder how many times a couple here have typed "DEI" since last month lol. But hey, I hope Trump does a good job. Just didn't get the memo that pissing off Canada, wanting to take over various countries and control Gaza, and renaming the Gulf Of Mexico the Gulf Of America were really important things. I mean, Harris is a big ole loser for losing but if she suggested doing those things in her first few weeks in office, most here would like "wtf."

 

[bbncal02]

IMO this isn't a hill Dems need to die on. Maybe learn how to talk to the American people again and win elections first. Regardless, both sides, particularly the far right LOVE this shit. A couple years back, a poster ranted about seeing tv logos in the corner of the screen rainbow colored for Pride Month. He was legit frustrated over that. So we're going to have four years of pretending Black History Month and Pride Month don't exist and once a Dem wins again, these things will return. I can tell just from the Paddock though that "woke" has been replaced by "DEI" so that's something. I wonder how many times a couple here have typed "DEI" since last month lol. But hey, I hope Trump does a good job. Just didn't get the memo that pissing off Canada, wanting to take over various countries and control Gaza, and renaming the Gulf Of Mexico the Gulf Of America were really important things. I mean, Harris is a big ole loser for losing but if she suggested doing those things in her first few weeks in office, most here would like "wtf."

Not a Dem. Just not a fan of censorship. And neither should any true American be.

 

[IdaCat]

That’s the problem with your politics. I question one of your tribe members about a reason for inflation and you come back with a MAGA Bingo card full of gibberish fresh out of the echo chamber thread that has zero to do with inflationary causes.

Talking about inflation less than 3 weeks into the term is stupid. We had record inflation the last 4 years under turnip brain and you didn't say shit. Don't lecture me about tribal politics, chief.

 

[Nightwish84]

Not a Dem. Just not a fan of censorship. And neither should any true American be.

I hear ya and agree. The right was tore up over censorship on social media and well, they had every right to be. Months before the election some districts banned books because the author wasn't straight and the story included a gay relationship. Some adults were so uncomfortable they transferred their fears onto youth. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone say "why ain't there a White History Month?! Nah, can't do that because (insert some weird, slightly racist old timey view)." I recently had someone I know say they didn't like Michelle Obama and called her "monkey face." It's incredibly gross but obvious some view learning about slavery, civil rights, or having pride and being comfortable with one's self as some sort of negative. So now we get to play the immature game of pretending these things don't exist/banning things to make a few in this country feel more comfortable. In the meantime, DEI is going to be the excuse for anything negative, including the air tragedy in DC. I mean, it is what it is.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Because DEI is inherently racist. You’ve been in a cave if you don’t know why.

Like the deal with the Tuskegee Airmen, this amounts to malicious compliance (which was immediately corrected by Hegseth himself).

Imagine being a college educated adult and believing that in order to talk about MLK, slavery, or civil rights, you also have to be able to say that white people are inherently racist and oppressive. But that’s exactly what is happening here, whether you grasp it or not.

And just to be clear: this new administration promised multiple things in addition to addressing inflation. Please don’t pretend that eliminating the racism of DEI is not one of those things.

Weird how these programs, many of which have been in place for 25-50 years, didn’t become racist against the white man until a person came along running on the white guy grievances platform, which is admittedly quite popular with its intended audience.

I also think you might be confusing DEI with critical race theory. Can you link DEI policies or provide company names for any company that explicitly says "white people are inherently racist and oppressive" in its policies or training materials? CRT theorizes white systems are inherently racist and oppressive, not white individuals. I learned CRT at a very intro level in 2001 in a 300-level sociology course, so I could be misremembering. But I am pretty sure it's the theory that white men rigged the game in this country to benefit themselves over anyone else.

End of the day, if these programs gotta go, they gotta go. I know they positively affected white women the most, and it might negatively affect minorities, the disabled veteran amputee, or the deaf/blind/mentally challenged person seeking employment or housing protections. But it won't hurt me, the straight, white, able-bodied male (and I'm pretty sure that's the point).

The good thing about all of this theater is we no longer hire based on race, gender or any other kind of identity nonsense. We only hire based on merit and qualifications.

I am so happy the president appointed a highly qualified, lifelong educator with a passion for educating children as Secretary of Education and not some perverted billionaire wrestling promoter's wife who happened to be longtime donors to and pals of the president. That would be like DEI for rich people and could be seen as hypocrisy.

 

[bbncal02]

Talking about inflation less than 3 weeks into the term is stupid. We had record inflation the last 4 years under turnip brain and you didn't say shit. Don't lecture me about tribal politics, chief.

Buddy, all I heard in my neck of the woods from Dems and Repubs was how damn high groceries since Covid. So, yes, people were saying quite a bit of shit.